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Old Apr-25-2008, 12:19
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..i give em the last 3 days dark, with a huge nail driven throught the base of the stalk....


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hell yeah pops!!

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i have heard of icing....not sure how i would do that in soil though...i give em the last 3 days dark, with a huge nail driven throught the base of the stalk....
i am a sadist at the end

i figured the pics were shitty the first time, and they STILL dont look quite like they do live....Ill try macro shots next time
imagine if i threw a WR in there phat?!

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I just wanted to say I read back a little and wanted to add that the nail job does work, I have done side by side between 9 plants, I wont get into details on the control group is of 3 x 3 x 3 and at different stages each but at the time of harvest only 3 had a nail in the base of ea.(1 plant ea.) control group and did show better results.
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my buddy said he gets a five gallon bucket fills it with ice and a lil water and stirs it till it gets really cold and and flushes his soiless evry ten minutes or so just before he pulls, and it takes him about an hour, but he says the cold contricts the roots and forces out all the resins, says yuo can actually see it happen, i havnt tried it but plan to at next harvest.
What do you mean "you can see it happen"? Do you see roots getting smaller or resin oozing out of bud sites, or what? I remain skeptical on this one. Again, you really would need a side by side comparison to see if it works. Did your buddy do this or hear about it being done? Has anyone else done this, or heard that it works? I don't understand how constricting roots will squeeze out resin. As far as I know there is no resin in the roots, or even inside the plant, and I don't think a plant really makes a lot of resin in one hour. Anyone?
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hell yeah pops!!

wow, 7 negative reps on the thread...I must be doing something right...
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This kinda makes me angry. I don't understand why someone would neg rep you after you simply show us what you are doing with LEDs. Even if they disagree with you or get mad, that's not a reason to give someone negative rep. I haven't seen you guys say anything too controversial or idiotic. I certainly appreciate all your time and effort it takes to share with us, and I'd positive rep you again if I could.

I'd love to hear from those who neg repped you. Please defend your position to help me understand, as long as that's OK with the SnS crew.
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I just wanted to say I read back a little and wanted to add that the nail job does work, I have done side by side between 9 plants, I wont get into details on the control group is of 3 x 3 x 3 and at different stages each but at the time of harvest only 3 had a nail in the base of ea.(1 plant ea.) control group and did show better results.
Wow. I still am skeptical, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try it on a couple plants and compare for myself.

I've just always thought that anything you do to a plant that causes stress is detrimental to development. Seems like if I had a spike shoved through my abdomen it would be somewhat stressful.
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it should be stressful...do it the last 3 days opie...but if you just fed, it will suck ALOT of water up into the plant...longer drying time...
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it should be stressful...do it the last 3 days opie...but if you just fed, it will suck ALOT of water up into the plant...longer drying time...
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How can you tell if a plant has produced more resin than it would have if you did not nail the stem ?
I believe you can not compare one plant to another as no two plants are the same, they are individual's for example no two plants have the same amount of resin, buds, or even give the yield.

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thanks for chiming in green!!! i can tell because i have been working with my strain for sometime...the father got killed, so i lost it...(sniff) but hey, Ill make a better one
anyway, being that i have seen JH for years, even more so, my JH that i have been tweaking, I know that its more...and you cant really tell for minute differences, but this isnt minute, so i can REALLY tell...lol I still dont have a SOLID theory as to why LEDs produce more resin, but I am definitely not the only one to notice it, hell, high times even said something about it. But like them, i dont know why, and I am not gonna spew my theories, because thats all they are now...thanks for your interest!!!
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he says he does it, although i too believe it sounds kind of far out.
supposedly that plant seems to frost over, but ive also noticed that my trichs change in appearance with temp, when its colder there looks like there is more
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Many thank's for the reply SnSstealth,
Well as you are a man of more experience than i, will nail some of mine and see what happens.
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I agree with the ideas that "spiking" your plants in the last 3 or 4 days would increase resin production. It is proven that stressing your plants produces more resin, but it typically reduces the overall harvest weight. If you "spike" them a few days before harvest, you're not sacrificing any weight (the buds are already full grown) but you are inducing the plant to produce more resin.

As far as icing the roots goes, i believe that the liquid in the roots might be pushed into the plant, but the truth is that the roots don't have any THC in them. It might increase your harvest weight a little bit, but it's not going to make your buds any more potent.

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How can you tell if a plant has produced more resin than it would have if you did not nail the stem ?
I believe you can not compare one plant to another as no two plants are the same, they are individual's for example no two plants have the same amount of resin, buds, or even give the yield.
Actually two plants are exactly the same if they are clones from the same mother. There are many things that can affect the development of identical clones however. That's why the scientific community usually recommends that for horticultural comparisons to be accurate you need about 50 identical clones in each group. Some say 20 would do but that's about the bare minimum. There is a possibility of too many variations within specific plants and other conditions, for tests with less plants to be taken seriously. This makes sense to me, so when someone tells me they've done a side by side study with a total of 8 plants or something I keep my ears open but remain a little skeptical.

So there are two ways I will tend to find likely something that makes no sense. One way is by competent scientific comparisons, and the other is by pertinent perceived experiences. A personal experience cannot be wrong, so if someone tells me he's worked with a strain for years, then tried something different that produced different results, I have to believe them until I see reason not to.
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