this is probably my last post on this thread...(your welcome stinks..lol) beans are a brewin...so next post will be LED II...thanks to ALL who followed and helped along the way....Stinky, WH, Opie...your imput was priceless, and i hope you guys stick around for number 2...Everyone else, I also appreciate your imput, and hope all you guys tag along as well....
total from 6 2ft plants....123g....eh, I PROMISE better results from round 2...better understanding, better suited strains...and with the portable AC in there, we killed a 2x2 section, but thats gonna make the grow space 2x6...concentrating our light better as well....

again thanks to all...stay tuned for round 2!!!!!!


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ive been doing what i do for almost 5 years stright now both indoors and outdoors and like everyonelse (i think) ive made a few connections in the hydro industry including contacts at PROCYON and PINETREE to discuss venture money on both projects. what i dont get is why i cant just BUY one off the net.

one companys product isnt ready for market but theirs will not only have a variable power supply but a modular system to allow 120 190 and 260w arrays to be used relacing 400-600 and 1000W HIDS. the other COMPANY did need to raise capitol to produce its next run of only 500 units.

now ive called no less that 25 large hydro supply distribuators across the US and spent many hours online (which produced only ONE result on EBAY...LOL) to obtain a few of the PROCYONS (pronounced PRO-CEE-ON) to no avail but for some reson i see - what - 6 of these in the grow posted.

so im wondering how did we get so fortunate as to be the only ones able to see these lights on this forum? and how come NO ONELSE on other cannabis boards (other than GREENPINE who is marketing a horitcultural LED as well) or hydro supply board was able to do the same thing. are we so vastly superior in our collective intelligence that those posting here are the only ones who have endevored to determine the feasability of these "unique" and hard to obtain lights??

lol ziggy...we got our 3 out of the very first run....had them on reserve for 2 months...and we are having trouble getting additional lights, i also wonder.....where are the rest? are we the only ones who bought these lights for ganja? or just the only ones posting..seems strange to me as well...
not sure if your insinuating, but i dont work for procyon or home grown lights....just fortunate enought to get the first bunch, and honestly, I think we are a big reason they are sold out now...I am sure we generated quite a bit of sales for them...(looking up to see a free light fall in my lap...)
not sure if i covered what you were getting at or not...alas, I am but a stoner
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SnSstealth and the rest of the crew thank's for your most entertaining grow log postings.
I can't wait for the next chapter to begin,so bring on on round two you guy's.
Best Regards.
Greenthing

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[quote]this is probably my last post on this thread...(your welcome stinks..lol) beans are a brewin...so next post will be LED II...thanks to ALL who followed and helped along the way....Stinky, WH, Opie...your imput was priceless, and i hope you guys stick around for number 2...Everyone else, I also appreciate your imput, and hope all you guys tag along as well....
total from 6 2ft plants....123g....eh, I PROMISE better results from round 2...better understanding, better suited strains...and with the portable AC in there, we killed a 2x2 section, but thats gonna make the grow space 2x6...concentrating our light better as well....


part II-- LED...The Second Coming...

thanks again all for coming in
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I also grow with LEDs. I use the relatively cheap panels that some people say are weak. I agree in a small part because plants didn't stretch but didn't grow very fast, slowley in fact. Well I built panels with both LEDs and spiral Flcs and man have my plants taken off, I'm amazed at fast they grow. I tried posting some pics but after trying four formats that didn't work I gave up. Anybody know the format and size limits used here? I tried IM, Direct Link, HTML Code and IMG Code. I'm stumped.....Low

LowkonXC, You wont be able to post picks at the moment, you will have to make 50 posts before you can post picks.

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also i found the 5w 660nm [finaly] and cheap if i maysay

I heard the word "CHEAP" and I responded.
Where please?

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i myself am considering purchasing a procyon 100. instead of a hydrafarm 400hps contained ballest unit. it just makes sense. i have heard about this thing successfully growing buds but are they potent and tighter compared to their hps hd counterparts.... i was considering a CFL operation 2 125w CFL grow bulbs at 5000k, but it is toooooo fuckin hot for my enclosure. i am doing a 2 45 gallon Stertlite storage countainer grow op (like a turtle shell. self contained with an earthbox set up in the bottom, 2 24inch 17w Sunlight Floros velcrod' to the bottom sides (for easy aseembly and dissassembly as needed) as well as 2 15inch sunlights for bottom foilage. I just think that the procyon could possible provide a more temperate environment than the latter considering space. what do you guys think?
o yeah a 4inch can fan and odor sock, will this be suffiecient? for containing and eliminating odors?

size of grow area? I think you got plenty o light with that set-up....We have 3x3 per procyon, and get the results you see below...There will be less smell, less heat, less electricity...more resin, blah blah...
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rad grow

Beautiful and innovative grow.

Just take the camera in Manual setting. Go to white balance setting and hit manual... Point your camera to something that is true white(to human eyes) in the room when leds are on and hit button to set - Wahla you have pictures that look like they are under sunlight.... Message me back if you cannot get this down...

Hi, I followed your first experiment with the Procyons and now i'm thinking about getting one myself. My question is this: I have a 2'x3' growing space and i was wondering if 1 Procyon would give me excellent results, or should i go with a 400w hps or even a 600w hps?

What would you recommend?

Thanks!
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You will be fine in that space with a procyon and very small 13w or less cool cfl (for increasing the 400-450nm blue color) and possibly a 10w halogen to finish off the full spectrum (660-720 far red and infrared for the emerson effect). Try a sog or a micro sog and cover your floor with small short bud stalks using tall skinny pots similar to DRBudgreenGenes setup, you can near 1gr per watt in good soil if done correctly. Heat will be minimal but some ventilation is needed, you can use a fan with a lux outlet thermostat to kick the fan on only when needed. For personal you cannot beat it per watt.

dgsg...definitely go with the procyon!

Thanks frosted! I am lucky enough to have a few cuts of SFV OG Kush coming my way, so I feel they are something worthy of a new LED experiment.
I am gonna start with the Procyons, have been able to accrue a lil funding for a self designed board...just may not be getting it for a few months. So this will be the first run of a pure indica under the procyons till the board gets here.
If any of you from the first few runs were watching, one thing we learned for sure, is that sativa dom plants are no good for LEDs...YET. So running Jack Herer was not the best idea, and I am sure the yield will be MUCH better with the kush that is Almost pure indica.
Stay tuned!
good vibes

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Hey all. New here. I'm in the midst of my first indoor grow (been doing the guerrila thing for over a decade). Probably going to get the Procyon myself to use in a 3x3 closet. I've got 8 each of Purps and BlueCityDiesel at about 5 weeks now to be put oudoors. But before then I will take cuttings and save one of each for Mother plants to be held in a growbox and will flower the clones in the 3x3.
So, I hope to keep this journal up and post pics etc. Anyway I'm psyched for the LED thing and definately see myself throwing in some cfls for flowering. Any tips on the addition of cfls? Any tips on LED growing in general? Last question I promise....I can only vent the closet into the attic which obviously gets hot on its own. So can this extra heat have any adverse effects on the house/attic itself?

Thanks. HOpe to see yall around.

Howdy? J. F.

Aloha, and welcome aboard.

In reverse order;

Li'l extra heat in da attic?
It's a drop in the bucket.
But, as long as you are cutting holes, why not instal a solar powered attic fan? It's chimp easy!
You can amortize the cost from air conditioner savings.

Hope you plan to use an odor sock.
Venting into an attic can stink up da whole house.

And go easy on the nutes n water.
Led growing is kinda "laid-back"
Slow, and gentle with a very "happy ending"

For CFL's? They are not your main source of light when you are using leds, so, a little dab'l do ya.
1. 23W. 2700K. per bloomer is probably too much.
In veg.? I don't bother. I'm very pleased with leds for vegging.
And, don't have final results yet, but I am testing a little "nightcap" of 730nm, ar red.
I'll keep everybody posted.

Regards,
Weezard.

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Can we get a summary of your personal findings? Pretty much what I am hearing is that 1 Procyon 100 works fine for about a 2 feet by 3 feet area, or 6 plants. What I am concerned about is the quality of the weed. You said that you boosted your CO2 levels. How high was your PPM? What type of CO2 generator did you use? And how would you rank the density of the buds and the yield per plant? Is thier anything that you would change about your project in retrospect?

Anyway, add me to the people who joined because of this thread. I am about to put together a 3 foot by six foot growing space with all the bells and whistles to do a little sea of green farming and could not decide if I wanted to go with traditional HPS (about 250 dollars for 2x 400 wat HPS) or three Procyon 100's (about 500-600 dollars each). Unfortunately I think that pure economics will force me to use the HPS, but as soon as they come out with LED technology that can match the QUALITY of the final buds, I will be switching for sure.

Cheers,
The Whiskey Fish

Nice job we are also LED pioneers and use welthink wex c150 with 40% 660nm 40%630nm 20% 460nm
They are 150w each and use the 3w LED instead of 1w