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damn upload pics thing is pissin me off, this is cool shit and i want you guys to see it....lol
im still not getting how you will need that man LEDs.....if they we CREE class 2's, 1000 LEDs would be 2kw of LED...isnt that kinda overkill?...just askin. whats your opinion of the procyons we are using?
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wait till you guys see this suns pics!! the are going nuts now man 
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I looked at the procyone and the only reason I turned away was because of the price. The cree xlamps are very nice, but much more expensive than 5mm LED's. Especially now that they have the right wavelengths. The heat generated is also a big issue, but the grow light u have takes care of that. The other problem with the procyon is there are only 2 wavelengths, the other two (660 and 425) give many additional benefits that the plant could use. Ive also read you can trigger flowering by shifting the color of the lights from a majority blue to a majority red. have any of you heard of this?
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I looked at the procyone and the only reason I turned away was because of the price. The cree xlamps are very nice, but much more expensive than 5mm LED's. Especially now that they have the right wavelengths. The heat generated is also a big issue, but the grow light u have takes care of that. The other problem with the procyon is there are only 2 wavelengths, the other two (660 and 425) give many additional benefits that the plant could use. Ive also read you can trigger flowering by shifting the color of the lights from a majority blue to a majority red. have any of you heard of this?
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yeah you're gonna need thousands of those based on what ive seen grown from 5mm LEDs. granted you have alot of extras (CO2....) but its really a matter of photons generated getting to the plant. yes the xlamps are more expensive but with the time and labor put into mounting 1000's of 5mm, the heat they'll generate that you'll have to pay to control it seems like a wash.
Not sure about the color shift trigger as our plants are under a 5:2 ratio of red:blue 18 hour days and vegging like crazy
Please do make you're own lights  Wish I had the expertise to do that. Good luck cant wait to see your thread 
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fucking uploader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i really want you guys to see this pic....ive never seen it before, and grown hundreds of plants....never did any true indicas though poie
ill keep tryin to show you guys
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wait till the update pics sun!!!! babies are LOVING these lights...lol...4 in plants with 4 internodes...definitely not stretching....lol
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this seedling has germinated yesterday and this picture was taken tonight (feb 6th) 2 hours ago. i had it under the LEDs the whole time in dirt from seed to now and i also used liquid karma.
PS> so far it's been 3 days since i popped it into the ground, i think the liquid karma really did a good job but the LEDs sure gave it a hell of a thick stem for a seedling
i'd say go for LED if you want your seedlings to look great and be healthy
i'll update you on the veg part when i can see it's at that state 
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this seedling has germinated yesterday and this picture was taken tonight (feb 6th) 2 hours ago. i had it under the LEDs the whole time in dirt from seed to now and i also used liquid karma.
PS> so far it's been 3 days since i popped it into the ground, i think the liquid karma really did a good job but the LEDs sure gave it a hell of a thick stem for a seedling
i'd say go for LED if you want your seedlings to look great and be healthy
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ahh dude, this looks excellent! Well done :-) Thanks for posting this info there are a lot of naysayers out there ya know, I'm on a HPS now, but i'm considering a veg room of LED's for a continual grow.
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don't forget though, i used liquid karma from germination and still am
but anyways, just to give you a good idea of what i used, i have 3 of these 225 (something like that) LED squares (12"x12")
this is the one i'm using now but the other box i used to germinate the plant had 1 extra
square of LEDs above the plant and the walls surrounding it were white
these LED squares can be found on ebay when you search for 'led grow' and they're great
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lol i meant therometer not a thermostat
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Now that's what I'm talking about - completely surrounding the plant with LED's. I believe that's what it's going to take. Rep for you.
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don't forget though, i used liquid karma from germination and still am
but anyways, just to give you a good idea of what i used, i have 3 of these 225 (something like that) LED squares (12"x12")
this is the one i'm using now but the other box i used to germinate the plant had 1 extra
square of LEDs above the plant and the walls surrounding it were white
these LED squares can be found on ebay when you search for 'led grow' and they're great
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Way cool, i've been looking at those on ebay myself! They aren't very expensive at all... They usually go for around $40 bucks (usd) form my research, on ebay! 
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I was thinking about these blue LED's- LUXEON V High Brightness LEDs
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LUXEON III LEDs
Just 1 of each would make approx-200lm. Thats alot of light. Now say I had 100 of these LED's. That sould be more than plenty.
However my 1200+ LED array only takes up 12"x12" so putting 5 of these puppis in would make alot of light also. On average the array will make approx 6000cd of light, not mcd, cd. so I am having trouble picking between the two types, 5 mm or class 2 LED's. |
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unfortunately those are china panels....we had a few of those.....they wont work once your plant start growing man. they arent tuned per frequency either, those are what you hewar people calling "china panels" you need class 2 LEDs. show ya updates on how they my lovely ladies are goin tomorrow....the idea is GREAT finally got other LED growers out there. but can you start your own thread on your grow?...would love to follow it and see how it goes..keep checkin in here...i may do the pics today, but tryin to keep the pics at a week apart for referance
and ryan from HGL said all you need to do for flowering is change the time.
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one more on this: I dont believe the removal of wavelengths would change the plants physiology to start flowering when the days get shorter (in the fall). not sure how that would work.  lol
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k..heres those pics....they are from yesterday.....it opened more and it seems like we just got 3 full leaves at that node instead of 2...interesting though huh?
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i think its safe to say i dont need to worry about stretching with these procyons huh?.....
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here they are...couldnt wait....first 2 pics are the plant i showed on feb4..this is my referance plant...pics 3 and 4 are the strange sleaf node plant from yesterday...last is a pic of them all in their pretty light....lol...i got my camera set at 4x6 pics...if anyone is having problems viewing, ill shirnk...just lemme know
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