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I am going to check in here and say great work on this log, very thurough and interesting 
Your plants look very healthy at this point no different than if under a 600 watt MH IMO.
I to will be watching this.
If you get a yeild like you would under HID lighting the company that makes these lights is going to get swamped with orders at the end of this grow!!!
They sell stock? Ha Ha
Great work and log keep it coming.
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Hey Stealth ,
What day did these plants actually break soil ? Jan 21st. when the thread was started ? They look sweet so far .
Weedhound said you had asked about the use of Sucanat somewhere , I couldn't find it ?  I almost used molases once , Weedhound did 1 day before me and made GOOP SOUP in her res. , kept me from doing it too . We been budz since . And I started looking for a substitute for molases that would better stay suspended in a hydro system . I've used it in dirt plants too.
I have used all natural organic ground cane sugar a.k.a Sucanat on 2 grows now and liked it . The 1st grow Koolbloom was used also , 2nd grow it wasn't and buds were just as sticky -n- dense . Seemd to do the same thing as Botanicares Sweet that I've used in the past too . Gen. Hydro just came out w/ some = too GENERAL HYDROPONICS
Like 40% of it's candy lol. 21% cane sugar , 17% molases . Almost nothing else = Bullshit w/ a huge price tag . You have to dig deep because these sneaky bastards don't always put ingredients on the containers . You can Google M.S.D.S / Material Saftey Data Sheets on any of these and other Big Name products and find out exactly whats in this stuff , and in what amounts and save $$$ and get = results thanks to O.S.H.A  .
Here's 2 links to articles on Sucanat / Cane use .
Last post in this thread ->
Sugar water instead of Molasses. Help!
And -> Maximum Yield - Why Use Sugary Supplements?
$3.00 for a 2lb. bag thats lasted 2 grows now , or up to $60.00 a gallon w/ some xtra trace amounts of ingredients w/ big names ??
Hope you grow some big fat buds w/ the L.E.D.s and break new ground man .
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Your plants look very healthy at this point no different than if under a 600 watt MH IMO.
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Yeah I agree. The veg stage is the easy part. You can pretty much use any kind of light. I've been thinking about replacing my MH in the veg section with some fluoros. Just when I got the venting all worked out.
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Maybe even some LEDs.
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40% of it's candy lol. 21% cane sugar , 17% molases . Almost nothing else = Bullshit w/ a huge price tag .
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No kidding. We need good, tested recipes for all kinds of stuff. Flushing agents, PH adjusters, I spend way too much on water.
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they poked their heads up on the 28th of jan...xcrispi, i got a buddy down here (dirty crew!) who used succanant and swears by it...used all the same fox farm soil and organic nutes i did... he added it to all but saved 4 girls to be the control...avg'ed about 20% more with the succanant, and said his resin output was immensely improved,and its organic, so im gonna go for it.
one of the few problems ive read about the LEDs is they stretched. i deffinitely dont have that problem, if flowering gives me an avg yield, we'll call this a success.
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So....those plants are 10 days old???  I am starting to become a believer... |
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Well done guys, I think this is proof enough that LED has a life ahead of it once the technology becomes a little cheaper, mode widely available and better researched, although from the looks of it, SnS is there already!
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Well done guys, I think this is proof enough that LED has a life ahead of it
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I have no doubt that LED has a life ahead of it, but I wouldn't exactly call this proof of that. The plants look very nice n healthy, but we haven't even seen them bud yet. I can do the same with incandescents and at a much lower price tag. How can it be proof just a few days into the grow? Once they are harvested, and they come somewhere close to the results of HID, then we will have seen some proof.
This is extremely typical of what I have seen the past few years of LED grow light exploration. On other forums as well (gasp) people see that the plants do fine during veg. The lights on the switchboard light up frantically through vegging, then a few weeks into budding, the posting slows down, and people kinda move on to other stuff. I am in no way saying that I expect that to happen here. I hope for the best, by all means. I want to see some big-ass, honey-drippn ears of corn hanging up to dry. Actually if I just see some regular old buds hanging up to dry, I'll be tempted to switch to all LED.
Summary: A couple weeks into a grow offered as proof? Not even. Close to normal size, normal resin buds as proof? Absolutely. The proof is in the pudding, but it hasn't even been put in the oven yet.
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Nope really not proof of anything. we're drooling to get to flower so we can all find out. they'll be what they'll be. after this first grow we should be able to do more experimentation ie. dividers w/ different lights added to see the reactions 
thanks for keeping us grounded Opie 
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Yeah if this works out I'm sure HGL will be busy as hell. Theyve sold about 20 already so I hope there are others. cant think they would be further along as we started the seeds while they were still en-route...lol (thank you fedex tracking)
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HOLY INFORMATION
WOW check out this site Plant Physiology Online
25 chapters with subcategories. lots of highly tech. info.
Warning: Weedhound, dont look at the link  lol
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I have no doubt that LED has a life ahead of it, but I wouldn't exactly call this proof of that. The plants look very nice n healthy, but we haven't even seen them bud yet. I can do the same with incandescents and at a much lower price tag. How can it be proof just a few days into the grow? Once they are harvested, and they come somewhere close to the results of HID, then we will have seen some proof.
This is extremely typical of what I have seen the past few years of LED grow light exploration. On other forums as well (gasp) people see that the plants do fine during veg. The lights on the switchboard light up frantically through vegging, then a few weeks into budding, the posting slows down, and people kinda move on to other stuff. I am in no way saying that I expect that to happen here. I hope for the best, by all means. I want to see some big-ass, honey-drippn ears of corn hanging up to dry. Actually if I just see some regular old buds hanging up to dry, I'll be tempted to switch to all LED.
Summary: A couple weeks into a grow offered as proof? Not even. Close to normal size, normal resin buds as proof? Absolutely. The proof is in the pudding, but it hasn't even been put in the oven yet.
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Hey opie, your points are very clear, I was actually basing it on other evidence around the net (aswell) and on this board I've seen. People are getting harvests, just - even from seedling the ones I've seen always seemed to stretch and yield a lot less. So far we can see it is doing a so far so good job in veg.. hopefully we will get the smoking gun with the help of those generous enough to share their experiences.
Remember opie, there are a few naysayers on here who are saying "never will work, if it did the industry would be using it" etc; I think we can say without a doubt it does work, without a doubt, it is just || how well || :-)
My 2 cents, and yeah I did expect someone to pull me up on that,
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Wow SnS, Nice link. That's one for my favorites for sure. I think I'm going to learn all that stuff tonight. Shouldn't take to long, 5 minutes or so.
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denial, true, true. I hear ya.
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Well I say just wait and see and it should answer all questions.
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time shall tell..........
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WOW check out this site Plant Physiology Online
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Great find I'll be reading and studing every word on this site for day's. Later |
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