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SnSstealth · #**151** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 09:57

LOL!!! you chicks are funny....lol and MTF is serious shit

Mr. Clandestine · #**152** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 11:19

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Originally Posted by SnSstealth

LOL!!! you chicks are funny....lol and MTF is serious shit

They are funny! I thought they were sisters when I first arrived here, judging from the way they would talk to each other. And, man, I've always wanted to try some MTF, but isn't the actual line only available in clones? And in Alaska? I've never bought the off-shoot MTF beans from any seed companies, because I've always heard they are nothing close to the original strain.

Stinky - Just out of curiosity, how exactly does a strain become semi-autoflowering? I always thought either it is, or it isn't... never knew there was an in-between!

**stinkyattic** · #**153** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 11:39

Alaskans- 'The' MTF is/was clone-only but it's been passed around like a second-string cheerleader all over Alaska and has several local/regional seed lines that can be considered authentic. There's a bunch of info on it here if you hunt enough. It should have a creeper/long lasting stone, be effective against pain, smell like wild grapes and/or chocolate (it's a complex scent and lovely), and grow very well under lights. Other observed traits are purple striping on calyxes and partial albinism in some individuals. I've never bought the seed companies' supposed MTF beans either for that reason, but if you know any old hippies in Alaska, what they consider 'bagseed' can be pretty damn good shit. lol. There was an autoflower trait in some MTF back in the day but I don't know anything about its origins or why it isn't seen these days.

I am not an autoflower expert by any stretch. What you see in the Mighty Mite line is the trait of flowering under an 18/6 photoperiod rather than 12/12, so plants finish outdoors in early September, making them suitable for growth very far north where frost may hit by the end of the month, and snowstorms in October are not rare.

SnSstealth · #**154** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 12:08

dead on the MTF....she said it all...lol

Mr. Clandestine · #**155** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 12:16

Thanks, Stinky, for the background info.

I actually DO know a hippie who was born and raised near Juneau, and moved right down the street from me a couple of years ago. He's a great guy, and LOVES recanting stories of his homegrown... but he can be a little loopy at times, and I've heard the same stories over & over again. Of course, I never say anything, he's one of those people that you'll allow to do that just because he's such a trip to hang around. It's funny, he'll sit around his house in the wintertime here, either with windows open or a/c running, wearing a pair of shorts and nothing else. Winters here don't get too terribly cold, but it's not exactly beach weather. Anyway, he was the first person to tell me about MTF several years ago, and ever since I've been wanting to try some of the real line. He doesn't know I grow, and just thinks I always have some good stuff on hand. Maybe next time I see him I'll ask if he has any beans lying around from back home. That'd be cooler than cool!

**stinkyattic** · #**156** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 12:50

That's where mine came from. My darlin' The Yeag had his dad send me a bunch from the Kenai a couple years ago. I got some different phenos but all display specific MTF traits very well. The only real difference is plant structure, which varied widely among the plants from those beans, even though the buds all taste similar and have that knock you out creeper velvet sledgehammer feel. I chose a really nasty stocky male from the line to create my Rhinofuck seedline and have been happy with the way the dense buds and black grape scent of the MTF got passed to the offspring. Combined with the copious visible resin production of the White Rhino, it's a nice strain. The pure Alaskan stuff I run doesn't have a very frosty look to it, but hits harder than anything else in my garden, even though one pheno has about the bag appeal of Beasters, AFTER they've been keifed off, hahaha!

SnSstealth · #**157** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 13:01

stop making my mouth water!!! i lost a good friend whom i traded seeds with alot....now i just got my 3 strains, and my cross!!! you know of any reputable seedbanks stinky?

whiskeytango

**stinkyattic** · #**158** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 13:05

Sn, not sure if you're looking for a source for the MTF; if so, seedbanks really don't seem to have an acceptable substitute yet. For other stuff, I've been happy with seedboutique, cannaseur, and a private breeder. I'll send you some info.

SnSstealth · #**159** (**permalink**) Mar-24-2008, 13:13

not MTF...just somewhere were i will get what i pay for...dont mind cost, if its really the strain it says. would be forever indebited to you for just a direction to get good beans stinky

whiskeytango

GreenLeaf420 · #**160** (**permalink**) Mar-26-2008, 22:55

Hey hello to everyone...

Hey Stink what do you think is a great yielder that flowers quite fast for indoor cultivation. I have so much shit I've been going through. it takes maybe 1 seed or 100 to get the perfect strain to pump out. I've been on a bad strech now... I need help I like fluffy light colored strong strong weed. Better the THC content the better for me willing to sacrafice Yields for quick turn around I tryed a site you had recomended seedboutique
but with all those strains I just figured maybe you know of a good one to choose from them... Thanks alot for all your posts

SnSstealth · #**161** (**permalink**) Mar-27-2008, 07:02

the ONE time i got MTF...it was definitely one of the best strains i ever tried!!!!
WT

**stinkyattic** · #**162** (**permalink**) Mar-27-2008, 09:11

GreenLeaf, you really should look into Pure Power Plant. It can run 8-9 weeks, so it's not among the fastest, but it's an amazing indoor strain that yields like CRAZY and has a beautiful pale frostiness to the buds. It's worth the extra week over the 7-8 week strains.

GreenLeaf420 · #**163** (**permalink**) Mar-27-2008, 13:14

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Originally Posted by stinkyattic

GreenLeaf, you really should look into Pure Power Plant. It can run 8-9 weeks, so it's not among the fastest, but it's an amazing indoor strain that yields like CRAZY and has a beautiful pale frostiness to the buds. It's worth the extra week over the 7-8 week strains.

Hey Stink thanks for the input. With the Pure Power Plant what type of flavor does it produce. A Strong High with a great Flavor? Back in the day before my mentore was deported we were growing the original light fluffy limey original haze. He is such a master. 15,000 sq ft 90 1000 watts between 3 rooms crazy fuckers we were... LOL My mouth is watering. 1.5 grams looked like a QT oz. I really want to stay away from the 12-13 week shit but I still want to try to get that potency along with a really fruity flavor like G13,Sours,OG Kush, or original haze but somethng that I can start around here new. That will wake everyone up... Or Knock Em Out.. LOL ... I was thinking before talking with you about trying Super Skunk @ 7-8 weeks Shiva Skunk Same time frame With the Super it will make just more than just your attick stinky. LOL Being that you live in Northern states like me and I'm going to put an order in. What do you like for outdoor flowering? I'm ready to flower everything and start from scratch again. It's been over a YR since I've done that... I feel like I loose a friend everytime I Flower my mothers...

I may bag the outdoors 12 and 12 well see really like my Fredom maybe I will pass that job off.. The Pure Power Plant is avlable @ seedboutique? I seen that you have had good results with them. Nothing lost in the mail? LOL

Thanks Again GL420

**stinkyattic** · #**164** (**permalink**) Mar-27-2008, 13:48

If you want a true Super Skunk, go for the Critical Mass (Massachusetts Super Skunk seedline from Mr. Nice Seeds). Phee eww, make the NEIGHBORS' attic stinky too. I run clone-only Mass Super Skunk atm and it's a nice plant. I haven't taken her all the way through flower yet but 20 years or so of happy growers running that cut can't ALL be wrong hahaha.

I couldn't put a finger on the exact flavor of PPP but it's rich and spicy-sweet. Cure it up nice. For potent n fruity, I am real happy with RushMan's 'Toxic Lemon' (8-9weeks) and anything from the Spice of Life 'Sweet Tooth' line. If you can find Blockhead, she's a nasty burly crystally bitch. Yum yum. Can you tell I dig citrus? lol. But fluffy, they ain't. More like rocks. OGKush will give ya the fluff, but OG Kush annoys me. I grow it, but as a plant stuffed in a spare corner of the flower room to give me that unique high, not as a producer. She's too picky and demanding for my taste. I don't get down with that high-maintenance bullshit lol. I guess that's also why I don't play with hazes. Too long to finish=too many things to go wrong. And I'm an indi girl anyway... already wound pretty tight... that heady shit makes me nutty.

Outdoors, you're looking at it. Donkey Dick or whatever the local oldtimers happen to be growing in your area. I'm not an outdoor grower but communicate with a few guerrilla masters on the regular. lol.

Damn would I have liked to be a bug on your wall in the old spot. 15k sqft is sickness in a fucking CAN. You're nuts dude. Dizzam.

SnSstealth · #**165** (**permalink**) Mar-27-2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by stinkyattic

That's where mine came from. My darlin' The Yeag had his dad send me a bunch from the Kenai a couple years ago. I got some different phenos but all display specific MTF traits very well. The only real difference is plant structure, which varied widely among the plants from those beans, even though the buds all taste similar and have that knock you out creeper velvet sledgehammer feel. I chose a really nasty stocky male from the line to create my Rhinofuck seedline and have been happy with the way the dense buds and black grape scent of the MTF got passed to the offspring. Combined with the copious visible resin production of the White Rhino, it's a nice strain. The pure Alaskan stuff I run doesn't have a very frosty look to it, but hits harder than anything else in my garden, even though one pheno has about the bag appeal of Beasters, AFTER they've been keifed off, hahaha!

is it anything like being smashed in the face by a gold brick wrapped in mint? i have GOT to get me hands on some MTF

whiskeytango