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Donkey Dick and VT local IBL Indoor/Outdoor 2008

Long time no log!

Since the last one was something I've never done properly to completion before (a full hydro run using NFT), I figured that I should post this new learning experience. You can laugh all ya want.
I'm NOT an outdoor grower but I was over at a good buddy's house a couple months back and he was like, "open your hand... Donkey Dick... Merry Christmas" and just dumped a big handful of these FAT beans in my open palm.

I did some reading around and found the origin of the strain. It comes from West Coast Seed Co. and was bred down from an OLD (pre-Dutch era) Skunk on Vancouver Island and has been bred down and stabilized since then, becoming a true IBL. I suspect that means it is related to the Island Sweet Skunk, another old Vancouver outdoor IBL.

From this post at ICMag: International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Donkey Dick

"Well it seems to be an outdoor strain suited for Canada in Vancouver, so am unsure of how it would fare indoors. Are you looking for an outdoor plant? They can get purple and yield well outdoors with multiple large colas.
Mostly Indica. This big skunk is a Vancouver Island original, with long skunk buds that are light green and full skunky flavor. Good instant "up" high. Good commercial yielder. Height 6-8 feet. Flowering time 8 weeks. Yield 1/2 to 1.5 lb Harvest outdoor Sept 30 to Oct 15.
More of a sweet skunky like cabbage green. A very dense, earlier finishing indica that grows big like a donkey dick. They grow big colas outdoors, so is not good for guerilla growing. What it is made of may be Mighty Mite x some kind of skunk."


I did find this at the Quebec Seed Bank site though:

"Donkey Dick (Hybrid Coastal Mountain H. Plant) - Donkey Dick is one of the nicest genitors from the North Coast of the USA. Loved for its good taste and sticky touch with good results indoor. This mix particularly stands up like French bread. Winner of the PUF 1997 in Quebec"

What I have is the Vancouver one.

My intent is to grow out, mother, clone, and sex the plants by the beginning of March so I can do a seed run and produce a good number of clones for the outdoor season.

I popped the beaners on the 16th of January using the vial method with just a few drops of tap water until the seeds had cracked and shown viability. I started 11 hoping for 10 to germ but all of them popped.

They went into nursery 6-pax of Farfard Seedling Starting Mix and were kept slightly moist under a prop dome (I was not able to water them 2x a day, hence the dome) and at room temperature for a week until they emerged.

Upon emergence, the dome was removed and the plants were put under a 24" New Wave T5 fixture just a couple inches from the plant tops, and the new seedlings were given their first heavy watering.

They were allowed to grow in the 6-pax (each cell holds about the volume equivalent of 2 fl. ounces) until they had 2 sets of adult leaves and were starting on a third.

The first two pics are what they look like after their first transplant, which was 2 weeks ago.

They were transplanted into 3" nursery pots with ProMix BX- not my first choice but it's winter in New England and the farmer supply was sold out of my favorite cow shit/humus blend.

The pics are just 3 days apart. Boy do those Dicks grow fast when ya pay attention to them...
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Those look nice stinky. I would like to find an outdoor strain like that. Something that'll grow here in western washington.
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The Donkey Dick or Island Sweet Skunk are both appropriate to that climate. They have good mold resistance.
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Your Dicks look good Stinky...
I'll be following this tread for sure, cuz i am a mostly outdoor grower and i can surely learn a lot from this thread...
I gonna start my own outdoor log soon...
Good luck...
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are you going to take stab at growing it indoors also?
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Thanks Zeb, I may be turning to you for advice then. This will actually be my first serious outdoor ever!

The plan here is to keep a permanent mother and a male of the line indoors so I can run off seeds/clones whenever the bug bites me. I had intended to do this with a local IBL called Vermont Green Lifesaver but never got the seeds from my buddy.

I will be flowering a set of clones indoors when I sex them- I'll keep the mothers/father and flower one cutting from each to sex, tossing the males and their respective donors as soon as I determine which is the best male in the lot to breed.

This will all be happening sometime soon, since I pinched the plants almost 2 weeks ago and side growth is picking up. I also gave them their first feeding, which was a mild solution of fish emulsion and a bit of GH micro. They will be going on a proper regimen of Cornucopia Grow/Tricarboxylic acids this week.
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YESS! This is exactly what I've been waiting for, a log from stinkyattic! Hopefully sometime I'll be able to see one of your indoor logs. :]
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This is a BOTH log actually.
Here's some pics at Day 25 from first moistening of the seeds.
Notice that the plants are yellowing on the low leaves. They are hungry! They need bigger homes! So that's what they get...
Pic 1- A VERY healthy root ball
Pic 2, 3- New homes in 6" nursery pots under the MH 250, trying to encourage enough stretch to clone from.
Edit: Yes, that is a 2500pc. case of JiffyPots. Yes, that is about a dozen flats of legal vegetable and perennial starts. lol.
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looking awsome stinksters........have you found a spot outside for your ladies to bask in the sun?
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Week 5

The kiddos are showing excellent side-shoot development since their pinch last week. I forgot to mention there's also a pair of BOG BlueMoonRocks seedlings in there. They are darker green with rounder leaf tips.
I haven't found a spot yet. I may give the cuts to someone else for the outdoor part depending how spooked I get, lol.
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hey stinky...ur plants are lookin alot bushier than mine...whats ur seret?i always think im doing pretty good then when i compare mine to everybodyelsess i feel like im nowhere near as big for the amount of time...i just posted new pics from last night....check em out... first grow...any help is appreciated
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Old Feb-19-2008, 12:19
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Ah yeah I just had a look- my plants are 10 days older than yours and my lights are bigger. They lived under a t5 fixture for a while, which is a really intense light. Given your lights, your plants look really good.
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holy shit, in your first post, the second pic down to the bottom right of it is gonna be one hell
of a huge donkey dick, it's so busy already
and what was your reason for removing them from the t5 lights stink?
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Old Feb-19-2008, 19:28
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They got to the size where they no longer fit under the T5 lights and I needed the lights for vegetables, so I put the DDs under the halide. They seem happy so far, don't ya think?
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they look like they're in disneyland they're so happy lol
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ive wanted to see an outdoor grow for a while...i would LOVE to grow outside, cant here...settle for my organic indoor soil though keep it up stinky...Im following this one!
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wow I am so excited.

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sorry to infringe on your thread with this stinky...kinda need this answer in the next day or 2...im gonna do some good pruning few days before i go into flowering....few fan leaves, some underdeveloped sidebranches, and top a few more....should i do it all at once, or 2 or 3 sessions....whould i do it right before induction of flowering?...same night?...week before?....gimme some ideas guys...

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sorry to infringe on your thread with this stinky...kinda need this answer in the next day or 2...im gonna do some good pruning few days before i go into flowering....few fan leaves, some underdeveloped sidebranches, and top a few more....should i do it all at once, or 2 or 3 sessions....whould i do it right before induction of flowering?...same night?...week before?....gimme some ideas guys...
The general rule on pruning is this:
-Don't top within the last 2 weeks before you begin flower.
-Avoid removing fan leaves at ALL
-Spindly, low side branches that get no light can be removed at any time, and the palnt will baely notice their absence.
So do the topping right away, and then allow 2 weeks' recovery. The other stuff isn't time-sensitive, as it does not have a significant effect on the hormone distribution wihtin the plant.
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thanks so much stinky....wish i could thank you with a sample when im done...heh

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Oh, crap.

Well I got a late request for a different strain so now this is going to be a 2- IBL grow log.

The second strain is of mysterious lineage but it is a local IBL that a grow buddy was working for nearly the past decade. He's just relocated to the Southwest and I have inherited the seeds from his final seed patch. It has been bred to finish on time in central Vermont. The heritage includes something called 'green lifesaver' that I've never heard of elsewhere, and by appearances there may be some Northern Lights influence in there as well, and Skunk#1 heritage in outdoor lines is common in New England, but who knows?! The past several generations have been going fully, truly purple WELL before the cold nights of fall arrive. It doesn't have a name, but the guys call it 'purple shit'.

Here's the seed starting method- a dozen seeds in a small glass vial with a few drops of water.

Donkey Dicks are on the top shelf of the wire rack. My 250MH finally shit the bed and I need to get it serviced. Luckily the local hydro shop owner is a talented electronics troubleshooter- anything from twitchy ballasts to laptops with bad circuits. Anyway the Dicks have to chill under flouros for a while and got stretched sitting under a dead lamp for the last week. They have enough secondary growth that I expect to be taking cuttings this coming weekend.
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Wow...looking very cool...

I have a Q... what nutes are you using?? And what will you use when they are planted out??
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Right now I'm running Cornucopia nutes, which are also a local Vermont creation. They're next to impossible to find, but one hydro shop in Putney carries the whole lineup.

Outdoors, I plan to use bat guano.
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well U have done it agen stinky.

and I cant wate to see what U do outdoors.
and I too will be doing an outdoors also.

well have a good one stinky.
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lookin lovely stinky....like the germ method...beats my paper towels way to hell....lol, gonna try that next time...that strain sounds insane!...

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