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Rock.Steady · #1 (**permalink**) Feb-13-2008, 00:28

Welcome, and gather 'round.

those of you who have been following along the previous and current adventures of our intrepid explorer know him as a dirty-boy.

well, thats about to change, at least for this experiment.

that's right folks, Rock Gets Wet, right here, for the first time, a journey to the darkside of Hydro.

the coaches for this oddysee will be:
Weedhound, my knowledgable, patient and faithful friend throughout my mis-adventures with the nobel herb.
and MVP, who has offered experience and support.
(yup, u been drafted pal)

I also expect a few guest appearances by some other very cool folk who have popped in n out of prior threads and some especially who have offered support and persuassion to try the ways of the water.

there will be some known and accepted methods, some home brew technology, and maybe a strange wacky idea thrown in from time to time, just to see how much trouble I can get in with my lead coach.

all this is a new game for me, and i didnt even perfect the dirty game yet, so, we'll see how things go. Along the way, I will try to acknowledge those who's ideas have inspired me to do things one way or another.
One of the main goals here is to have a simple, yet productive grow.
(wow there's an innovative idea, aye?)

today is the very begining of this adventure.
Join me on my oddysee, I'm hoping it will be alot of fun.

in the begining, there was a bean; SNLxNH (fem) Thanks WH

in a pinch for germ media, a suggestion by MVP, Vermeculite and Perlite mix. I went 50-50. soaked it, ran water thru, watched it get all puffy w water and drain out, ok, cool.
i decided a small dixie cup that i cut large holes in the bottom would work. I also decided i would germ in this mini cloner gizmo i made.
The design on this was inspired by MVP's cloning log I just downsized dramatically.
normally this would be used for clone cuts, but i had a spare lid, so i cut out to fit the cup. the bean is about 1/3 inch down from top.

I need to pick up a few more things tomorow at the `dro shop, so, as we move to the next steps, i'll share whats happenin.

thanks for reading.
see you soon

SnSstealth · #2 (**permalink**) Feb-13-2008, 16:38

ARGHHHHHHH!!!!!......lol, tis good man, i stand alone dirty(taps playing). ill be in here though man, watching, waiting for you to come back....look at your nails?...no dirt?!?! whatever shall you do?...get a sandbox?....Im just playin man, Ill be in to give my support to ya

. its all about experimentation.....

whiskeytango

Rock.Steady · #3 (**permalink**) Feb-13-2008, 20:31

hahahaha, Thanks WT, yeah, well, ya know, i need to try whatever i can. gotta get the yeilds up, up, up.

but hey, im not outta the dirty game yet, Galina is still doin her thing and there are a few on deck in the veg bunker, gettin bigger, as we speak

not givin them a log of their own til they emerge from the bunker.

back to the wet experiment. (calling the weedhound)

ok, hey coach, i think i got all the supplies i needed.
I decided to follow your lead on nutes.

flora nova grow, check
flora nova bloom, check
ph control kit, check
hydroton, check
flora kleen, check
and a digi TDS pen (sunleaves) for 40 bux

ok, so, you said i need to check ph of my water,.

i checked the water alone and was about 6

i checked it with the grow nutes and was about 4.5-5.0

i'm not exactly what im looking for, so, i am reporting my findings for your review.

i didnt get the calmag, and really hope i dont have to, but, you tell me, based on this info, ok?

i'll have the main bucket finished tomorow.
the seed still needs to sprout b4 we can use the bucket anyways.

ok coach, how'd i do???

Rock.Steady · #4 (**permalink**) Feb-13-2008, 23:45

hey WH, after reading your nute guide, i guess i need to measure the ppm in tap water, ok, 240.

what does this mean???

we continue the prep stage

hydrocannabis · #5 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 00:57

hey rock hows it going. and welcom to the hydro game.

I love playing in the wet game.
cuz all my plants grow much faster and heather than have ever grown befor. and its way cleaner also.

So I wish U lots of good luck in the wed and wild game called HYDROPONICS.
good luck

on a nice Grow

here this

have it.
stay

brotha.

peace out.

zebulon · #6 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 06:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrocannabis

So I wish U lots of good luck in the wed and wild game called HYDROPONICS.

Me too...

Rock.Steady · #7 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 06:29

hey hydro, thanks bro.
yeah, take a seat, this looks like its shaping up to be an interesting trip.

still waiting for my coach to check in

-add on.-

hey zeb, thanks dude. we shall see, we shall see.

zebulon · #8 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 06:39

So Rock, you gonna grow SNLxNH ?? What do you know about this strain?? Have you smoked SNLxNH before??

Rock.Steady · #9 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 07:05

hey zeb, never smoked it,,,yet.

here is a what i know

1- Weedhound grew a "personal best" yeild from this strain. something just crazy like 15 z's on 2 plants

2- here is a quote direct from the breeders page description

Quote:

A classic Indica/sativa ‘’winners’’ cross (NLxHaze) in an upgraded edition. One parent is an upgraded Northern Light. With an according to connesuirs ‘’Sour’’ smell and taste. She was never crossed with ‘Sour’ strains, she just has that smell and taste. Like any Northern Light she is very strong and crossed with an indoor adapted Nevilles Haze. They need 10-12 weeks of 12/12 and 3-4 feet in height after 2-3 weeks of veg. Expect overgrown with resin buds here, with a very special smell and taste. They maybe need a bit longer than average, but will perform far out better than average too

also, these are fem'd. WH hooked me up when i had that string of males that popped.

i know the pix were kick ass, WH, wanna show the class what we're shootin for here?

Weedhound · #10 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 07:35

Rock....your ph control kit has ph up and ph down? Good for you to find an inexpensive tds meter.....you'll be VERY happy later.

If that cup has vermeculite and perlite......when you go to move the seedling won't all that stuff just fall apart?

I would do this expirement with your tap water......take some in a bowl or something and adjust the ph to 5.6......leave overnight.....check a few times......see if the ph stays were you put it or if not.....how stable DOES it stay when you set the ph? This will be your deciding factor on your tap water.....does the ph stay where you want?
If so, you are good to go with it and won't need any CalMag. The only real way to know is to test it.

Weedhound · #11 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 07:46

You can also start rinsing and soaking all your hydroton as well.....first rinse as much the red dust off as you can.....then place a bunch of it in water....adjust ph to 5.6 and check in a hour or two......then proceed to do this same thing with the ph 9,000,000
times until the damn hydroton finally stays at the correct ph.....this can take a few days depending.

You know Flora Nova may be one of those that you might not need CalMAg......if I recall correctly but I'd have to check with my hydro guy to be sure. Again.....whether your tap water will stay stable at a certain ph is more the deciding factor on the water.

Rock.Steady · #12 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 08:07

hey coach, thanks for checkin in.
yes, the ph control kit has tester and 'up' n 'down' and only 16 bux

on the v/p seedling mix. when i was playing with the stuff, before i put the bean in it, i wet it and then (to see how fragile or stable) i plopped it out into my hand, the way we all used to make sandcastles at the beach, a million years ago, when life was playtime and innocence, it stayed together, now, im sure it wont take a lot to make it fall apart, but im hoping a bunch of roots may help hold it together. i think, if im careful placing it in the bucket and shoring it up with the hydroton pebbles may keep it together enuf for my purposes. i guess time will tell.

would it really be the end of the world if it did fall apart, after it makes the move to the bucket?

i will start the long term testing of my tapwater at once.
i will start priming the hydtn pellets at once.

i will report back with my results, thanks

Weedhound · #13 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 08:12

You'll just have to be very careful and gentle when placing it in there is all. The more you can prep your hydroton before hand the HAPPIER you will be later believe me.

Weedhound · #14 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 08:18

Also do you have a link to your Sunleaves tds meter or do you know what what conversion it is set at....0.5 or 0.7?

Rock.Steady · #15 (**permalink**) Feb-14-2008, 09:06

ok, here we go.

first, the link for the TDS pen
Sunleaves :: TDS Essential Digital TDS Pen

wow, youre not kiddin bout the red dust.

rinsing like crazy.

now, heres a lil irony, i found the cup of water i used lastnight to check the ph. altho i did not 'set' the ph lastnight, i checked to compare if there was a change, it did creep up about a 1/2 a point.
one other thought. the water is dam cold rite now and im sure its not a good idea to pour cold water into the plant, so, im guessing ill need to always have some jugged sitting around for room temps.
with that in mind, should i just leave it out before i start all this testing?
just in case that doesnt matter, i already tested and set the bowl of water as u instructed between 5 and 6. my kit is not a ph pen, its a vial and solution, so, im going by the lil color chart.
btw, did i tell you im somewhat colorblind?

just on shades tho, and it doesnt affect my ability to compare and match colors side by side, but i have had arguements about the color of my dress socks or a shirt, when just looking at those items by themselves

ok, back to the rinsing.