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Old Feb-22-2008, 23:01
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Flowering log / Picture log

So since I gave up on my regular log I am going to at least do a flowering log. This will pretty much be a picture log only going into detail when asked. I'll post pictures 1-2 times a week but will take pictures every day so I can do a time lapse animated gif.

Here is the new cab I built. I tested it and with just the circulatory fan and the exhaust fan it stays about 82 degrees at the canopy.

Tomorrow is the real test as this will be their first time in a decent sized grow space with some real lighting (400 watt hps vs 320watt CFL).

I watered them with bloom ferts tonight in the dark. I'm hoping the additional light will have noticable effects in the first week.

The plant in the 3 gallon pot is the Beast. I'm hoping she'll be a big yielder.

The 2 plants standing higher in the back are ones that have yet to sex.

The 3 up front are all females also. Well they just sprouted their first hairs the yesterday/this morning.
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Old Feb-22-2008, 23:05
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I like the box.
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Old Feb-22-2008, 23:13
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Groovey..
I like the box.
thanks.. it's the first time I've built anything.

I meant to buy alot more studs for the frame but somehow miscalculated big time at the hardware store/forgot and I wanted to get it together asap as my plants were getting squished from their current grow space. So I made due with what I had.

Cost me $40 to put together, not including the cost of a jigsaw and a drill (another $60). I don't count them because they're reusable items.

I may build another better box after this grow now that I have a little more expierence.

current box measures 6'x3'x3'

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Old Feb-23-2008, 13:13
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temps with the plants in the room are about 82 degrees and 48% humidity if I keep the ambient temp in my house about 72-75 degrees.

That's with the light 19-20" away. I am going to see about installing a second box fan tonight to help bring in cooler air from the outside.

Hoping to get the temps sub 80's so I can lower the light to say.. 16" away.

so far though the plants seem to be loving the new grow area. I retied down my big plant now that she has space to spread out a bit.

I may have to do a scrog because she's getting so unruly. However being that this is my first grow I'd rather stick to one technique that I feel I've learned fairly well.

Transplants for the smaller plants into their final container will probably happen tomorrow evening right before the lights go out. Give them all evening to try to recover from the shock of being transplanted.

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Old Feb-23-2008, 13:22
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forgot to add, I got 1 male today. I moved him to the quarantine closet to see if he'll change his mind.

I also chopped up one male who decided he was definitely a boy with his grandiose balls for all to see. He was in quarantine.

I cut him up and ran him through the food processor. No boys are going to bust a nut over my girls!
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Old Feb-23-2008, 16:08
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update:

The last plant finally showed her pistils. 5 out of 7 plants I had in veg have turned female. Pretty good ratio I'd say.

They seem to be loving the hps light. I think I'm going to hold back on cutting the intake hole. They seem to be enjoying life at 82 degrees with only the circulation fan and exhaust.

I'm pretty excited to have had so many turn female.I may go ahead and transfer them into their final pots today now that I know they're all female.
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Old Feb-24-2008, 04:55
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good work keep us posted, know whacha mean bout scrogging ,just tie some limbs down myself. goodluck
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Old Feb-24-2008, 19:11
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Pistils on the big plant are starting to get nice and resin covered. Saw a few thick "drops" of resin hanging on most of the pistils.

I'll see if I can get a macro shot tomorrow morning before I go to work.

Transplanted 2 of the plants last night and did the other 2 this morning. Retied everything down since they're now in their final pots. I don't suspect I'll be tying them down anymore after this. 2 months till harvest probably.

The big plant I'm contemplating going from it's existing 3 gallon one to a 5 gallon pot. I'd have to add about a week onto it's flower time.

Would it be worth it from a quality standpoint? Or should I keep her in her 3 gallon pot so she puts more energy into making some potent buds instead of more foliage.

Any input will be appreciated.

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Old Feb-24-2008, 19:26
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Would it be worth it from a quality standpoint? Or should I keep her in her 3 gallon pot so she puts more energy into making some potent buds instead of more foliage.

Any input will be appreciated.

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foliage should read roots.. Making more potent buds instead of roots.

Any input anyone?
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Old Feb-26-2008, 18:35
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it's hard to believe that my plants have only been in there about 3 days (3 days with light).

Plants are growing pretty rapidly now. I've only got my 5 females as I was able to find the males pretty quickly.

Pistils are shooting out of everywhere and I think there's bud formation, but honestly I've never grown before so I don't know what the beginnings of bud formation looks like.

Here are some pictures for your viewing pleasure.

edit: the close ups are not of any of the main stems.. it's of one of the smaller side branches. My bigger cola's/main stem are even more impressive. Lights went out as I was taking pictures so I had to stop with just those 3.

Plants have been in 12/12 for 11 days so far. Really it's only in the last 3 days (since I built the bigger cabinet with HPS) that they really exploded in growth. I guess HID is a huge step up from CFL's.

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Old Feb-27-2008, 20:45
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cut an intake hole in the grow cabinet today. I wasn't comfortable anymore with the temps sitting at 82 degrees. Mostly because one of the taller stems had the edges curling upwards, a sign of heat stress. I think it can stay at it's current position with the new intake in place.

It's a 20" box fan just like my exhaust. It was on clearance today at target for 10 bucks!!! couldn't pass it up.

I posted this in basic grow also but here are some pics of my big plant.

I'm having problems getting direct light to the main stem/the side shoots. It's been LST'd to hell and back and am wondering what else can I do aside from pruning some of the leaves.

I don't want to prune but I don't see any other options. If anyone looks here and has some ideas please let me know.

Pic 1: Side view of the plant entirely
pic 2: overhead view of the plant.
Pic 3: Me parting open the plant from the side.
Pic 4: Me parting open the plant from the top (sort've).
Pic 5: Bonus Macro shot of one of the tops of one of my smaller/medium stems. 12-13 days in 12/12 now.
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Old Feb-28-2008, 10:23
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Just an update. With the new intake I put in yesterday my temps at the tallest stray branch/cola is 80.3 degrees, about 2-3 inches down it's staying at a nice breezy 75.

Very pleased with the results. I went ahead and raised the other smaller plants to just below the height of the stray cola on my big plant now that I know it's safe temperature wise.

I watered my plant last night. Before i only had to water about once a week in my tiny cardboard box setup but it looks like here with the bigger room and HPS beaming down on the plants it looks like the evaporation rate is higher.

This morning I woke up to check on my plants and they look like they just exploded in growth over night and perked up. They were definitely rootbound. I'm going to be transplanting my biggest plant from a 3 gallon to a 5 gallon pot. I'm hoping this will help the branches stuck under the top foliage to stretch a bit.

I'll probably have another picture update Saturday or Sunday Evening.
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Old Feb-28-2008, 20:44
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Moved big bertha from a 3 gallon pot to a 5 gallon pot this evening shortly before lights went out.

The 3 gallon pot was just about as deep as the 5 gallon one (due to it being a square pot). Because of this I wasn't able to put any soil beneath the plant when I repotted; only on the sides was fresh soil put in. Hopefully this still helps. I only used promix. I chose not to use any fox farms ocean forest on recommendation of psteve since it's loaded up with lots of Nitrogen.

I know this will add a couple of weeks onto my flowering time (1-2 weeks) but a few other members said she needed to be repotted and I had already been contemplating doing it.

Hopefully this will allow the plant to stretch a little more so the cola's beneath the canopy can get some light.

The bigger pot did not really give me any additional LST room.

Bummer

The other plants are really growing fast though. I just transplanted them recently (2-3 days ago) and they look like they're already back in full force. This seems to have been the case with all my transplants so far with this grow. Perhaps something to do with allowing the plant to get a little rootbound before transplanting. Who knows.

Pictures coming saturday/sunday evening.

Going to start using molasses and sweet at the next watering. I will have 1 plant that I will use neither on just for comparison/test results.

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Old Feb-28-2008, 20:50
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Also don't know if anyone counted the visible flowering tops in the overhead picture but there's 26-27 cola's (you can't see the rest of the budsites beneath the top sites but trust me they're there.) in that picture.

Overall there's probably about 35-40 colas total on this plant. Hopefully it all comes together like I'm hoping and I get killer yield. I can't wait to see what the dry weight yield is on this plant come harvest.

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Not sure if I'm going to post pictures this evening. I just spent yesterday and today flushing my plants.

They were having some odd issues that were coming off as heat stress but the temperature 8" away from the bulb was 80 degrees. Most of my canopy is about 16-18" away right now.

After flushing one of the pots I found the initial run off to be at 5.7!!!!

I flushed the 3 gallon pots with 3 gallons of water where the ph stabilized at 6.5 (they had just been transplanted 4-5 days earliear from 1 gallon pots so I figured this was good enough).

My big plant, it's initial run off was at 5.2!! YIKES!! I don't know how this plant was even growing.

I've flushed it with 15 gallons of water but the ph is still at 6.1. I will probably run 3 more gallons through it and hope to hit 6.3-6.5.

I should've flushed long ago and this was my mistake. The plants were just showing such good growth I decided to go as long as I could without flushing.

I'm going to give them a few days and then do another mini flush (going to water half of their pot size) then I'm going to immediatley follow the flush with a heavy watering with 1/4 dose nutes.

I've drilled holes into the sides of the pot to help them dry out faster so I can get back to my normal watering schedule.

Sorry, hope to have pictures wednesday or as soon as they show improvement; whichever comes first.

It's odd though, despite the fact that my PH was so low my plants were still growing pretty fast. These plants are pretty hardy and seem to be able to take alot of abuse.

Makes it great for learning on your first grow.

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PH of my main plant is up to 6.4 now. Going to start watering all my plants with distilled water ph'd at 6.8.

Hopefully that will enable me to get to the end of flowering before I need to do another flush.
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ahh.. I love the smell of dank when I walk into my apartment. It's just strong enough to be a faint smell in the air that you only notice initially upon walking in.

Luckily for me I live in a very small complex and we don't have regular maintenance men or visits from people doing work on the apartments.

However I will have to do something about the smell soon. I just don't know what. I don't think my box fan would work very well with a carbon filter on top of it.

I may try to see if I can get away with air ionizers of some sort.

On an actual plant note; my plants are looking great. The smallers ones that were flushed 2 days ago have most of the leaf curl out of the leaves. I suspect another 1-2 days and they'll all be completely flat again.

The main plant in the 5 gallon pot still has some curl in the leaves. It's hard for me to say if they've gone down or not yet but I believe they have. Another 1-2 days should tell me if the plant is good to go.

I plan on giving a 1/4 dose of nutes/bloom booster next feeding and give it a serving of molasses + sweet ph'd at 6.8.



ps: does anyone use any air ionizers (like ionic breeze and the like)? I'm curious how well they grow. I thought about buying two. One by my bedroom close to the door that leads to the living room and another one by the door in the living room that leads to the bedroom. that way I have two ionic breezes back to back to filter what the other doesn't catch. Really I'm only concerned with the smell getting to the living room.

I wish this wasn't shunned upon by our society. I think the smell is fantastic.

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