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We bought this Econogrow mh light a couple days ago and put it up. So far we really like it but it's pretty heavy and the side with the internal ballast took TWO yoyos to hold that side up correctly.
The heat is pretty much nil unless you actually touch the reflector itself. The seedlings LOVE it so far.
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May-09-2008, 14:29
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Well dogs aside horses are a LOT along the same line (just nineteen times bigger and more stupid) ....you get on a horse believe me you are TEACHING it SOMETHING....either good or bad and I'm sure dogs are the same way....the interaction is there no matter what.
I HAVE seen my share of "horse whisperers" in action and they are indeed as impressive as they seem......they'll have those horses dancing around on one foot with one quiet word...and again....never a true hand raised. The only time this is suspended is if the horse actually tries to hurt you (malicously) then kick the shit out of him. If you can that is, lol. These new styles of training ARE the wave of the future....they WORK. And they are much more healthy for both trainer AND trainee then the styles you and I were raised with. They need to go through a generation or so to be imprinted but I for one am THRILLED to see the changes coming in this field.....even if I couldn't do it myself if my life DEPENDED on it with either a dog OR a horse. Last edited by Weedhound : May-09-2008 at 14:30.
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Stealth....clarification.....
the 400w will run either the mh bulb OR the hps bulb at one time....you have to switch them back and forth.....400w at once only. That's the way I understand it.....are you thinking something else?
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Aw yes, the ol' 2 yoyo technique. To be outdone only by the 3 hot wheels set up.
I've got to know why you went with HID for seedlings instead of something a little less... drastic, like fluorescent. I've found that my seedlings don't like HID light unless it's a mile away. Also is that plexiglas around them or what? Is that to help keep the warmth and humidity in?
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Ding! We have a winnner....Zeb!
 We've lost two seedlings to those bastards and we're sick of it! 
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Opie I know exactly what you mean.....both about the hot wheels AND the HID.
 We WERE using some flouros but they just don't have the footprint we want. I thought the 400 would be easy on the seedlings but it wasn't as much as I had hoped. The 250 seems juuuust right.
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i could get a switchable set and use a 250mh and a 400hps yeah? if its strong enough for the 400....
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Your asking a different q now......I'm pretty sure I read something about not interchanging different sized ballasts/bulbs but I'm not 100% positive.
Stealth if you're going to start a fair amount of plants you most likely WOULD want the 400 vs 250.....when you think about it a 2' x 2' area really isn't very big.....while it works for us remember we've only got 4 plants going under it at any one time maximum.
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Seedlings....
First photo: left to right.
Sour Northern Lights x Neville's Haze. Arjan's Strawberry Haze.....this gal has stayed very short which kind of surprised me for a haze.....She doesn't seem to be a backwards plants or anything.....just shorter than I thought she would be. Photo two: Cotton Candy.
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The Widow Sisters.....
Our two remaining WW clones....one in soil and one iin hydro.
We JUST transplanted Sal (the soil WW) from a three gallon bucket to a five gallon....and HOPE that's the last one she needs. I've tried to follow Stinky's advice here and do several transplants as opposed to just starting Sal in a larger pot and guess what.....Stinky was right! (shocker  !)....the plants DO like it. The WW in hydro was topped once and turned a week earlier than Sal in the soil who was topped twice. PS.....I originally was going to make Sal a cloner mother but have pretty much ditched the constant cloning idea......the WW's are NOT quite the heavy yielders I'd like for a clone mommy.
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Who besides me thinks "Sal and the Soils" would make a great name for a band?
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Sal and the Soils.....a 70's indie rock band??
So Wh, tomorrow will be day 20 of the flowering for Fang....was there a big explosion?? or just a small one?? And is the PP still alive?? or you chopped it up?? I'm really interested to see how that ASH will go for ya, it's form the same breeder as the Church....it's strange cause i read so much bad reports, that the breeders genetics are crap, and the plants like to herm., but also on the other hand i seen beautiful frosty buds, which got a great smoke report too....we shall see... And nice work whit that soil WW plant...i know, this is a BIG success for ya...
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Zeb Funny You Should Ask About Fang.....
Pictures actually taken on day 19.
She just starting I'm afraid.....but already getting rather beastly isn't she? We've topped this girl TWICE remember....and she still is taller than anything else in the room. (Zeb....thanks for the nod about Sal...you're right that she was a BIG accomplishment for me.  )
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Zeb we bought the Church seeds from Kind Seed co...and will NEVER buy from them again.....seed # 4 is a bust as well....despite scuffing and making sure the shell cracked....the seed still just sits there. If anyone else out there has any Church seeds I wish you the best of luck with them.....better than ours at least.
The ASH originally came from Greenhouse seeds.....power plant is from Dutch Passion.
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