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DrSpoof · #26 (**permalink**) Jun-16-2008, 13:17

word... got a 12" oscillating fan hanging from the top of my cab now, running on low. couldnt find any cheapo potting soil at home depot, but luckily my local nursery had a cheap bag for 3 bucks. was gonna transplant today but the light period ends at 1pm and i didnt want to transplant em and stick em in the dark. ill either transplant tonite or tomorrow morning.

i also gave em a little watering (one looked like it was wilting) so now theyll get some time to strengthen up under the fan before they get transplanted.

i also got all my cable management finished today... think im finally out of 'building and setup' and into the 'maintenance' phase.

I'll post some pics tonite / tomorrow of the new cable management / fan / the girls after i transplant.

now, time for some lunch...

DrSpiggity

justanotherbozo · #27 (**permalink**) Jun-16-2008, 14:05

i think you're gonna want to wait to pot them up until you get that perlite too, you want to mix it with the soil at about a 60\40 ratio and add some bone meal and a little blood meal as well.

like i've already said though, i'm no expert, that mix is something i read, i don't remember who wrote it but i wouldn't have bothered to remember it if i didn't respect the author if you know what i mean.

in any event, heres a couple links i think you'll enjoy

Donkey Dick and VT local IBL Indoor/Outdoor 2008
TEST LAUNCH-Operation Redwood Tree

those threads will definately have info you want to have my man, happy reading!

and keep it up man, sharing it is part of the trip! hell, maybe the best part!

rock on

DrSpoof · #28 (**permalink**) Jun-17-2008, 10:16

The potting soil I got has some perlite mixed in. Hopefully enough, but I'm not worried about being too fancy--I only really plan on letting them live in the Solo cups a few more weeks until theyve got those infamous 5 nodes. Then I'll have to see if it'll be better to go to the 1 gals from there or a jump to the 3 gals.

First transplant was a bitch and a half. Hopefully this gets easier w time. Either that or I need to do yoga before I work in the garden, not after lol.

Anyways, here's some pics of the cab w the oscillating and the girls in their new digs (w procyon on and w out)

Time for a j and some coffee... man I love my week off.

DrSpiggity

DrSpoof · #29 (**permalink**) Jun-18-2008, 11:30

Update: plants look ok. Not diggin this soil. Wish I had added the perlite like you said, bozo. Oh well, live and learn I guess lol. This soil just gets kinda chunky and hard when wet. I stirred up the surface with a little screwdriver (for some reason the word for that is escaping me right now... cultivating? aerating? whatever lol) and gave them some more water this morning, just to the point where I got a little runoff. I will let them be for a day or two and see how quick the soil dries out.

Readings are 73F, 51%. Still too lazy to take PH readings on the soil. Here's a pic I snapped just to keep track of development (now with handy dandy soil tags!)

Couple of things: light is now at like 10" bc some of the girls still look like theyre stretching. 7 has a weird thing where one of the cotyledon is reaching up but not the other one. 2 and 3 I cant tell why theyre dropping, theyre certainly watered so hopefully it was just bc they had outgrown the rapid rooters yesterday. 8 is a mess, 1 I'm pretty sure will be dead soon, and we'll see on 6 and 9 (9 was planted late). 4 and 5 are non-troublemakers though.

After looking back at some early pics, 2 stretched a long time ago. Unfortunately my numbering system in the rapid rooters seems to have gotten a wee bit mixed up, so I'm not sure how much I can compare these numbered plants to my earlier notes... Argh. (live and learn again...)

Lates
DrSpiggity

DrSpoof · #30 (**permalink**) Jun-19-2008, 15:21

update -- the transplant definitely helped. the wilting leaves turned around and now i have a solid 5 seedlings who look like theyll be worth my time. hopefully 1 or 2 turn around with a couple more days under the light.

DrSpiggs

DrSpoof · #31 (**permalink**) Jun-21-2008, 10:31

2 more days under the light turned another 2 around. 7 out of 9 seedlings look to be surviving. Culled one today who didnt look like it was ever gonna turn around (number 1 for those of you following the pics). Giving number 9 until Monday morning to show some sort of progress (since its a few days younger than the other girls).

Second nodes are starting to grow! This is a beautiful process to witness in action.

Btw, I believe one of my plants is getting the famous LED tri-node... crazy lol. I'll grab some pics tomorrow or Monday (dont want to inundate the board with unnecessary updates lol).

DrSpiggity

justanotherbozo · #32 (**permalink**) Jun-21-2008, 10:44

looking good man

have you considered adding some CFL's? for some reason, the LED's work really well when combined with CFL's
maybe 2 clamp lights on either side of the Procyon (Walmart, approx. $6.00 to $12.00, they have three different sized reflectors) each with a y splitter for a total of 4 bulbs.

anyway, if yield is what you're after, that's a cheap way to add a little more light

DrSpoof · #33 (**permalink**) Jun-21-2008, 11:02

i dont know if i would go all out and add 4, but maybe a clamp light to each side of the procyon each w a 120w replacement (30w) CFL... would only cost like 35$... hmmm

DrSpiggity

justanotherbozo · #34 (**permalink**) Jun-21-2008, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpoof

i dont know if i would go all out and add 4, but maybe a clamp light to each side of the procyon each w a 120w replacement (30w) CFL... would only cost like 35$... hmmm

DrSpiggity

actually, if you get the $6.00 clamp lights at Walmart and the splitters there as well (under $2.00 each) and 4 x 23watt bulbs (you can often find them in three packs for like $6 or $7 bucks)
you'd be lookin' at about $25.00 and it would give you 46watts per side, not 30.

oh yeah, forget CFL equivalents, they don't mean shit and no-one who knows, uses them, it's the actuall wattage that counts

anyway, the beauty of CFL's is that you can add them, piecemeal, as you can afford them

DrSpoof · #35 (**permalink**) Jun-21-2008, 13:35

yeah... im actually not really that concerned about the upfront costs... its more the fact that i have a tiny growtent that i keep adding things to and now the temp is a constant like 73F (which is basically perfect). So I was thinking adding 2 instead of 4 would add less heat. I dunno, for 30 bucks I'll prolly just buy em and try em out... what have i got to lose lol

DrSpiggs

justanotherbozo · #36 (**permalink**) Jun-21-2008, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpoof

yeah... im actually not really that concerned about the upfront costs... its more the fact that i have a tiny growtent that i keep adding things to and now the temp is a constant like 73F (which is basically perfect). So I was thinking adding 2 instead of 4 would add less heat. I dunno, for 30 bucks I'll prolly just buy em and try em out... what have i got to lose lol

DrSpiggs

lol, my lights-on temps are running around 84 so 73 is something i strive for. my buds are actually looking really nice even with the too high temps.

anyway, you can always either add CFL bulbs, or take them away if it becomes too hot, although i think that fan of yours will keep things nice and cool.

DrSpoof · #37 (**permalink**) Jun-22-2008, 08:48

running to home depot in a bit so ill snap some shots of the added cfls tomorrow. in the meantime, so shots of the girls...

first is number 3, whos not the fastest vert grower but seems to be adding new nodes the quickest.
second is the trinode, number 4. sorry i didnt have a manual for the digital camera i found and finally found it online after i had snapped all these pics... hooray figuring out macro mode lol
third is the tallest of em, number 2.
fourth is a group shot of all the ladies.

I'm noticing some of the leaves are a little warped... is that just because its the first node and it has to absorb whatever trauma the plant is going through? Other than that I think they're lookin pretty good... I dunno if its the Procyon or what but when I pulled them out and put them on my desk to look at them the plants are friggin ABSURDLY green. Iz nice

DrSpiggs

SnSstealth · #38 (**permalink**) Jun-22-2008, 09:31

weeeelll.............
shit man, ever since they changed the front page, I have issues finding threads!! damn spiggity, why didnt you put a link in my thread? I would've been in here helpin you too....lol
now time for my 2 pennies....lol
I see bozo saved ya a few times...lol, the transplant was a scare Im sure....couple quick ideas....
1. i transplant ALOT...use styrofoam cups...(i use the small coffee size to start, then go to 16oz....they can be cut with a razor on the side for EASY transplanting.....
2.keep light 12-15 in away from canopy
3.Stick with soil!!!!...lol, dro is good, Im playin, but I just love the soil, easier, and tastier...something to be said about all dirty grows...they just taste and burn so much better...IMHO
4.ASK FOR HELP!!!! thats what we are here for...I am on this board at LEAST 5 times a day....It will save your life

good luck man...I am subscribed to this thread now, so I can see updates....lol
good luck, and thanks for joining the LED fight!!!

whiskeytango

DrSpoof · #39 (**permalink**) Jun-22-2008, 13:10

Thanks WT... its an honor to finally have you here. Took a run to Home Depot. Bought 2 lamps to start. Will see how the temps do, then I'll see if I wanna add those Ys.

Here's some pics. Nice to have some white light offsetting the Procyon. Got a 2 x 2700k 23w (6$ for a 2 pack) and a 5500k 26w (6$ each) light. Gonna grab another 26w 5500k when I get a chance and then I can run those 2 during veg and the 2 2700ks during flower.

Ran them for 30 mins and the CFLs were still cool enough to touch. Plants just went sleepy but I'll check them around 9 tonite (lights go on at 7) to see.

I also realized 2 things:
1. adding the circulating fan prolly created a bit of a crosswind, and my exhaust fan is turned down real low (small space, dont really need more than like 75 CFM according to my calcs
2. I had a bunch of fiberglass insulation sitting on top of my growhut (was too lazy to move it to another room lol)

I moved the insulation, which should let more hot air escape out the top. I'm thinking of putting the circulating fan on a timer and turning it off for 30 mins like 4 or 5 times during the light cycle. Good idea anyone thinks?

Updated pics are attached.

DrSpiggs

SnSstealth · #40 (**permalink**) Jun-22-2008, 15:16

lookin great spiggity! those are the EXACT CFLs I plan to add to my single procyon set-up right after my haze experiment....you should do just fine now...I would go to 24hrs light though...thats what i run for veg now...they seem to love the soaking in LEDs....never get too hot huh?
whiskeytango

DrSpoof · #41 (**permalink**) Jun-22-2008, 15:48

awesome. i will do so since the godfather of LED has suggested it. =)

Question -- I have my cups on a wire rack thats like 2" high just to keep them off the floor of the growhut. The whole thing is made out of this washable vinyl. I've just been letting them drain and then dry (never takes long), but some soil has leaked and stained the floor. Would it be ok to wash this with like a Spray Cleaner that has a little bleach in the formula (taking the plants out of course) or would there still be enough bleach in the air to harm the plants afterwards?

Sorry, a little stoned, so hopefully I explained that question clearly lol.

DrSpiggs

SnSstealth · #42 (**permalink**) Jun-22-2008, 15:59

you'll be fine cleaning with the girls out...just make sure you get it all back up....i clean religiously....its a good thing

WT

DrSpoof · #43 (**permalink**) Jun-25-2008, 07:40

Girls are comin along great, my late planted seed is finally turning around... should hopefully be transplanting by week's end the way we're going.

Question: since I added the CFLs and the oscillating fan, my temps have gone up and my humidity has gone down. The room my grow tent is in is like 8' x 2.5' (grow tent is 2.5' x 2.5') and the temp is 67F, humidity 63%. Inside the grow tent, the temp is 77F and the humidity 44%.

I've got 3 solo cups worth of water sitting in there to try and add a little water back into the atmosphere, but I cant seem to get the humidity up at all. Should I be worried that i'm not in the ideal 60-70% for veg? Is there another way to get my humidity inside the grow tent up or should I not even worry about it as long as I stay above 40%?

Thanks all
DrSpiggity

DrSpoof · #44 (**permalink**) Jun-27-2008, 07:42

Nevermind on the humidity, 44% seems to be ok.

Got some pics. Time for transplant? Going away for a day and a half but I think Saturday night would be a good time to transplant... =) Then nute time? Girls were planted (seeds) June 1, so they are 25 days old. Slow starters, I know, that was my fault. (too long in the rapid rooters)

Also, last two pics are of the tri-node plant. it appears it grew half a node and then has a full node growing in UNDER that! Look at how fat the half node's leaves are!!!

What should I do with this plant, just let it do its thing?

Thanks all
DrSpiggity

SnSstealth · #45 (**permalink**) Jun-27-2008, 11:09

yeah man....let it go!! I had a whorled phylotaxy last grow...(3 nodes at each point instead of 2)...and let it go, but it was a dude, so it went out....lookin healthy! It is almost transplant time

WT

DrSpoof · #46 (**permalink**) Jun-27-2008, 18:23

Hahaha yeah hopefully this one will be fine. Think I'd be good with transplanting tomorrow night, WT, or should I wait? Also, I meant to ask you, do you use 100% FFoF or do you mix in perlite? if so, how much?

Thanks
DrSpiggs

SnSstealth · #47 (**permalink**) Jun-27-2008, 18:53

nope...100% FFoF man...and i would go ahead and transplant this weekend...i am

WT

DrSpoof · #48 (**permalink**) Jun-29-2008, 02:44

Transplant complete! mixed 11 gallons of ocean forest with 1 gallon of perlite. transplanted into 1 gallon grow bags. gave the 8 plants about 2 gallons of water. Gave them some spraying with the Dont Bug Me too. Hopefully it doesnt kill them.

Found a fly that kind of looked like an ant. Killed it. Not sure if that has anything to do with the yellow spotting on my leaves. Didnt see any signs of bugs on the undersides of leaves. Confused.

Cleaned the floor of the growhut with some spray cleaner that had bleach in it. Transplant was fun. Really tired now. Here's some pics.

DrSpiggity

DrSpoof · #49 (**permalink**) Jul-01-2008, 08:15

Update and more pics... girls are starting to get nice and big. Think I may still have a bug problem, there seems to be a little more yellow spotting. Not alot more, so maybe I slowed them down. I think I read you wait 5 days between Pyretheum applications? I sprayed sunday at like 1 am, so i guess that means friday morning is when i should spray again? I also ordered some neem oil so ill have that on hand by then as well.

Thoughts?
DrSpiggity

camoxnhx · #50 (**permalink**) Jul-01-2008, 08:18

WOW! those grew so fast. so have you seen a difference in the LED specturm of light instead of CFL and/or T5 setup. and have there been any pros and cons of LED? but they look healty and look like there gonna treat you well. Nice Greenthumb!

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