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DrSpoof · #76 (**permalink**) Jul-20-2008, 13:01

so i learned a valuable lesson today. being a good pothead does not necessarily make you a good pot grower. (actually, its prolly the opposite lol) somehow, i forgot to water the GD plants all week. two of them are quite shriveled. Not "im dead for good" shriveled, but "uhh i fuckin hate you and its gonna take me some time to recover" shriveled. I hope. Having never grown before, I dunno if plants can bounce back from such neglect (6 days between waterings... granted its normally 3 or 4 under LED + CFL so perhaps not as bad as if I were using HPS/MH...)

So, watered them thoroughly (also sprayed a little to get some water to the leaves), then moisture metered each plant to make sure they didnt need _more_ water... I think thats part of the problem, my grow closet / area is such GD tight that its really hard to moisture meter the plants in the back. I kind of just go by the front few and then water the plants as a group. I know youre supposed to water them individually, but I have to pull them all out to do so (much easier since I put them all in 2 rubbermaid buckets, ps... also keeps the drainage off my growhut floor, which is an added bonus) and therefore my lazy ass doesnt wanna do it that way... I guess flowering will be easier since there will be less plants...

Also switched in my 2700k bulbs for the 5500k's I had in there, because tonight these girls are going on 12/12. They're all at least 10" tall and they're 50 days old, so I think they're ready. Still cant tell much from the preflowers, not sure if JackTR is just a slow preflowerer or its 24/0 or LEDs or just being a noob... I figure at 50 days old even with the setbacks I've had, they should be mature enough.

Oh, and some stats. Got a kill-a-watt the other day.
Procyon = 125 watts
Exhaust fan (4" vortex w/ fan controller about 1/3 strength) = 40 watts
Circulating fan = 24 watts
4 CFLs (veg) = 108 watts (4 x 26w 5500K)
4 CFLs (flower) = 92 watts (4 x 23w 2700k)

Whole operation pulls about 3.2 Amps and just under 300 watts (veg, around 275W on flower).

Cool shit. That means in flowering it'll be 275W half the day, only 64W the other half (LOL). LEDs rule.

DrSpiggity

hudson88 · #77 (**permalink**) Jul-20-2008, 13:30

Wow looking great doc, i wouldn't worry about them going a couple extra days without water, they'll bounce back

Can't wait to see them buds grow

DrSpoof · #78 (**permalink**) Jul-25-2008, 00:46

Girls bounced back just fine... all gained 1-3 inches since Sunday. Right now I'm thinking 2 definite males, 2 definite females, 1 maybe female, and 3 maybe males. I'm gonna have to wait and see a few more days before I can be more positive.

I also think I may have to water every 2 or 3, not 3 or 4 days... the CFLs, while still pretty cool, seem to make the girls get thirsty more often when added to the Procyon.

Here's some pics. First pic is LED + CFL on, other 4 are only CFL. Only have like another 6 inches to raise my lights, so I'm not sure how that'll work... I guess by the time I thin the girls out in the next week we'll see.

DrSpiggs

GreenDestiny · #79 (**permalink**) Jul-25-2008, 00:55

Doing great, hopefully they don't get too big for ya!

SnSstealth · #80 (**permalink**) Jul-25-2008, 09:32

looking good spiggs!!!
whiskeytango

anbesol · #81 (**permalink**) Jul-25-2008, 09:47

Are they on 12/12 yet? they look really big for cfl's and LED's you want to be able to penetrate the bottom aswell

DrSpoof · #82 (**permalink**) Jul-30-2008, 22:32

Updates from 7-28-08, since the server's been down.

3 definite males, pulled em out and threw em away. 3 definite females, and 2 that i'm keeping my eye on but that i'm fairly sure are female.

First pic is the 5 girls left. Second and third are the only good close ups I could get of females, fourth is a blurry balls shot.

Gonna transplant into 3 gallons tonight I think, will post back with updated pics after.

DrSpiggity

grow1964 · #83 (**permalink**) Jul-31-2008, 03:01

Great work so far!! I am just getting ready for my first grow and JTR was also my choice. The onl thing I will be doing different is growing in coco with a 600 HPS. Should be interesting to comapre notes afterwards.

grow1964 · #84 (**permalink**) Jul-31-2008, 03:33

I was also looking at those leds and was thinking about getting 2 of them. I could then run 800 watts for the cost of 200 watts. I would love to see them come down a little in price frst though and am waiting to see a couple more grows. Im really looking to see if you finish up with nice dense buds or if they finish loose.

DrSpoof · #85 (**permalink**) Jul-31-2008, 07:24

yeah grow, the plants all started off with good, dense growth, but theyre nowhere near uniform anymore and I worry about the procyon / cfls ability to penetrate the foliage...

I'm assuming that this weekend would be a good time to cut a few clones and make myself a mommy? that means another trip to home depot... yayy, havent been in a few weeks

PS -- transplanted into 3 gallons last night, went very well, am using every square inch of floor space now... definitely trying scrog next time, itll be nice to have a little more control over how the girls grow...

update later w pics from last night

DrSpiggity

SnSstealth · #86 (**permalink**) Jul-31-2008, 08:34

hey spoof,

i dont know why you would have penetration issues...see the buds on the lower left of this pic? they were 2 1/2' feet from the arrays for about a month. and while we did prune away some, they werent in direct light the whole time. I'd think with the cfls added you should do wonderful. just do some light(no pun intended lol) rotation to your plants, move a leaf here or there. we had an uneven canopy across three level lights and it worked out ok(of course it could be better but it was an f1 so we worked with it).

keep up the good work

db

grow1964 · #87 (**permalink**) Jul-31-2008, 09:39

Hey DR, have you sexed em yet? If not I would wait on the clones until you know for sure who the ladies are.
They look great and accoding to the breeder your growing these just right, No sog or scrog just grow em put as a bush.

Quote:

Jack the Ripper is well named because it is absolutely killer weed. A true 8 week Sativa Haze the first thing growers notice is the incredible lemon smell and heavy resin production. It has been described by UK growers as the best 8 week haze ever produced.

This plant will produce triangle shaped spear buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so.

I find it performs best unstopped with a long vegetive period. The high is very creeper at first you may think that its not so strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking.

1. Phenotypes - Two main phenotypes both with a Lemon Haze smell and short growth one tends to be more a pine smell.
2. Height-Look for the Short Pheno/ Colas swell late
3. Yield-Medium-Heavy / Moderate trim work
4. Indoor/ Outdoor
5. Best way to grow- Untopped and vegged to a full bush.
6. Harvest Window_8-9 weeks
7. Sativa/ Indica 70/30
8. Hybrid-Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X NL X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA
9. High type-Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia

DrSpoof · #88 (**permalink**) Jul-31-2008, 10:21

grow -- yeah, theyve been in flower for almost 2 weeks now, i pitched 3 males and im 95% sure the 5 i have left are all girls...

db -- hah having never grown before, im not quite sure what to expect. so far i dont appear to be having any issues, i just worry with how leggy some of the girls are getting as well as the fact that i can maybe raise my lights another 6 inches... i may have to top these girls or something, i'm sure i'll be asking ya'll for advice on that soon too lol

Here's the pics of the 5 girls before their transplant last nite. didnt take any pics of the after, as it was past 1 am when i was done and i just wanted to hit the hay. The 2 girls in the first pic are 24 and 17" tall, and the 3 in the second are 13, 15, and 19" tall... the 15" one actually grew two main stems, it was my late planted seed so I guess it had to branch out early to find light... crazy.

Spiggs

DrSpoof · #89 (**permalink**) Aug-03-2008, 18:28

Hmm, it appears the transplant has stunted the girls' growth a little. All gained about an inch in the last 4 days after averaging 3-4 inches every 4 days for the first week and a half of flowering... i buried some of them a little deeper than intended, and screwed up the root ball of one, which is prolly why its the runt of the group. =(

Here's some pics. First 3 are the girls out for watering, second 2 are a shot of them in the growhut... like I said, starting to run out of room and I have 6 weeks left! lol... didnt get to cloning this weekend, realized I'm short on ingredients and somewhat long on time... so surprisingly, i procrastinated.

DrSpiggity

SnSstealth · #90 (**permalink**) Aug-03-2008, 18:54

lookin good! I am on day 6 flowering...
Wt

hydrocannabis · #91 (**permalink**) Aug-03-2008, 22:50

very nice looking. can't wate to seen budding.

dodohead · #92 (**permalink**) Aug-03-2008, 23:15

looking great spoof, keep up the good work

DrSpoof · #93 (**permalink**) Aug-08-2008, 21:14

hey all -- plants are looking even bigger, each plant seems to have grown 2-5 inches over the last 5 days. Raised my lights basically the highest they can go... not sure what to do once the big girl gets any bigger! She's 31 inches now, the others are 22, 20, 18 and 11. The 11 has always been the runt of the gorup, while the 18's main stalk has actually stunted and a higher, bigger side stalk has emerged from under the shade of its neighbor.

first 2 shots of all girls, 3rd of the big'un, and 4th/5th of them in the grow chamber...

DrSpiggity

bickeybammer · #94 (**permalink**) Aug-13-2008, 12:59

i would just supercrop the top of your biggest one or do some lst to it... dont wait to long to lst tho because you might break some branches ... but everything is looking really good

tokr2153 · #95 (**permalink**) Aug-13-2008, 13:18

looking good keep it up

SnSstealth · #96 (**permalink**) Aug-13-2008, 13:21

lookin good spiggs!

whiskeytango

DrSpoof · #97 (**permalink**) Aug-15-2008, 20:44

Girls lookin good...

Heights 33, 26, 13, 29, and 23. You can see from the second pic that I tied the big girl down a little on Tuesday.

Starting to get all frosty on the tops... I want to lick them.

Not having to water them all that often, just went 7 days in between watering (generally use a full watering can (2 gallons) for all 5 of my plants, which are in 3 gallon growbags) and the moisture meter was either 4 or 5 for each plant.

Doing the best I can with my light setup, I think its going pretty well...

DrSpiggity

grow1964 · #98 (**permalink**) Aug-16-2008, 19:59

Hey Dr looking great!! Very healthy ladies and the bud production looks great too!! In fact I am watching a grow of JTR on another site as well and they are into week 5 o flowering with a 600w HPS and by far you are looking much better. Theres a link below to the other grow if you want to compare.
After seeing what you've done with these ladies here I am convinced the led setup is the way to go.

With 4 week or so left for your grow I am looking forward to seeing how these babies finish up!!!

Koopa's JTR - Marijuana Growing Forums

SnSstealth · #99 (**permalink**) Aug-16-2008, 22:11

hey dr.,

Lookin good!

...umm...I was comparing our pics to your day 19 pics to our day 20 look-in (I know differing strains ans such, also i dont know JTR's flower time) and the HKxBI (7-8week) seems to be about even with your mid to tall plants, we also 1week 1/2? ago took clones and went to 3 gal for all. church is near size in flower and big. the SB is a little behind but still flowering, but this should be normal. (sorry didnt mean to drag that on... the point is?...lol)

the CFLs, I believe there helping just not sure how much. your nodes are a bit tighter on the taller girls. but these are also the originals w/ the old blues in em so... I dont know... i guess their are more variables than i thought...any ideas?

db

joedirte · #**100** (**permalink**) Aug-17-2008, 09:08

"two of them are quite shriveled. Not "im dead for good" shriveled, but "uhh i fuckin hate you and its gonna take me some time to recover" shriveled."

LOL damn dude thats fuckng halarious!!!

good grow show too btw. you are brave to have bought a procyon or whatever. and SNS if your reading, ive read your led grows (took me a week to read one...) and i gotta hand it to you.

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