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DrSpoof · #**101** (**permalink**) Aug-17-2008, 20:07

grow -- thanks for the compliments, I am amazed at the fact that these things have practically grown themselves so far... fox farm + procyon seems to be a fairly foolproof combo

stealth -- JTR is an 8 week, so we should be finishing within a week or so of each other... I still havent taken clones, which should set me back a bit (I know I know im really really starting to lose window of opportunity lol)... as for the variables, just too many to consider I think. I've been keeping track of where each plant is physically placed in the growhut (so i can rotate) and it appears--in between waterings and rotation--that the plants that are directly under the CFLs gain 1.5 - 2x the height of the plants that are to the side of the CFLs, getting mostly just LED light. YMMV.

joedirte -- thanks, luckily I've managed to get back on top of things, that was a span of time where work got really crazy and my plants weren't flowering yet so I didnt _want_ to tend to them nearly as much as I do now.

Flowers are even bigger. And more beautiful. My lord, they're beautiful. I'm prolly gonna have to tie down the 2nd and 3rd biggest girls soon, too.

Question: Running between 71 and 78F. Humidity has been between 50 and 67%. Hard to get anymore airflow since the grow box is stuffed in a corner of the cellar. Turned up the intake fan even higher *ran around 1/3 - half strength, dialed up to about 2/3 now) to try and get more circulation/ventilation. Anything else I can do, short of buying a dehumidifier? Am I at risk for bud mold with these conditions?

Thanks again all, for the help and the praise

DrSpiggity

joedirte · #**102** (**permalink**) Aug-17-2008, 20:21

when in flower, i try to keep humidity below 50% for two reasons.
-no risk of mold
-the carbon filter will clog at himidity levels above 55%, thus reducing your ventilation even more

joedirte · #**103** (**permalink**) Aug-17-2008, 20:22

*humidity. sorry

SnSstealth · #**104** (**permalink**) Aug-18-2008, 01:02

now im not the expert on this, but im almost positive youre too late for cloning. yeah...day 29 now? if they do root and veg for 3-4 weeks im not sure what youre gaining unless there is no backup.

we had some humidity issues as well at the end of our first grow. DAMP-RID is what we used. i had a bucket in the intake and got a box w/ 4 hanging "closet" damp-rid dryers, they're meant to be hung from the clothes rod but i zip-tied them directly at bud level and after a couple days things dried out wonderfully. ill be honest we were getting scared from the almost mold smell that was coming out of the buds. those are very cheap price wise compared to a dehumidifier, but seeing as you are in a cellar getting one after harvest wouldnt be a bad idea.

db

grow1964 · #**105** (**permalink**) Aug-18-2008, 01:47

I would say you are at risk of mold with himidity that high. I know there are products out there you can feed the ladies to reduce mold, I'm not sure what they are but I was reading about them earlier, just forgot the name of them.

A dehumidifyer is probably a good idea, have read that a lot of people also use the water they collect to feed as well. Also the denser the buds get the more risk there is.

DrSpoof · #**106** (**permalink**) Aug-18-2008, 07:31

ok ok so a cheap dehumid it is... not a big deal, ill pick one up at the depot tonite.

i dont care about how long it takes the clones to re-veg and all that stealth, i just dont want to start from beans again.

I should be still good for those purposes at least, right?

Spiggity

SnSstealth · #**107** (**permalink**) Aug-18-2008, 07:45

ill check w/ WT in a bit.

ltr
db

DrSpoof · #**108** (**permalink**) Aug-24-2008, 00:55

oh my god the frost... just like the pictures on hemp depot. i love getting what i paid for

Heights 34, 27, 15, 30 and 24. Big girl that I bent over has turned into a bush as the undergrowth has filled in. Amazing. I think that 3 (maybe 4) well trained plants would work well in my space with my set up... 5 seems a bit cramped.

not much else to report. tired. plants are fuckin heavy. lol. have some pics

DrSpiggity

ps i want to smoke these so bad. oh my effin christ they're beautiful.

anbesol · #**109** (**permalink**) Aug-24-2008, 18:06

Lookin Nice

thought you may want to take a glance at this, if you havent seen it already

YouTube - LED Marijuana Grow

DrSpoof · #**110** (**permalink**) Aug-24-2008, 18:29

thanks anbesol, have heard of the UFOs but have never actually seen them in action... interesting to see the side by side

one thing i forgot to mention. picked up a Sunpentown Mini Dehumidifier with UV Light Ti02 - SD-350TI : Target and tried leaving it in the cellar for 2 days... picked up maybe 2 oz of water. moved it actually into the growhut last night.

after 24 hours, conditions went from 74F / 56% to 83F / 37%. So now I can leave it off for a little bit as well as not having to worry about mold.

Happy day!

Spiggity

ps -- finally ordered my thrive alive b1, pumps, etc, so I should be able to cut 4 or 5 clones on tues or weds and start that process so that round 2 of the op will be ready by the end of september (yayy makin moms lol)

grow1964 · #**111** (**permalink**) Aug-29-2008, 20:02

Whats up Doc? Nice job getting the humidity down. Is it harvest time yet? Must be gettin close.
I have all of my seeds in but I decided I am moving. What I havent decisded is where LOL. Anyway, looking forward to harvest time.

DrSpoof · #**112** (**permalink**) Aug-30-2008, 21:22

Hi all,

Noticing that most of the girls only need to be fed once a week. Moisture meter read from 5.5 - 7, and I havent watered them since last Saturday. Conditions 58%, 73F. Had to turn the dehumid on 24/7 because it hasnt seemed to be doing much. Had it on 18 hours a day, but still wasnt helping. Thermometer said min of 54% over the last few days, which still isnt as low as I'd like. Hmm...

Heights pretty much same as last week. Bud production has increased a whoooooole bunch. Def can see that flowering 5 plants in this space is too much, not getting the penetration to the lower budsites... Hmm part two.

Decided to reveg my two biggest plants after harvest, rather than try and clone. That will give me a month or so between revegging and cutting clones to do a post mortem, try and sketch out the next grow, and tweak whats needed. Also to make some hash, butter, cannapills, etc... all the things I've been putting off (have made cannapills and green dragon in the past, but have never really really gotten the hang of it, but now have the supply to go wild lol)

Starting to get some pistils turning on the top of the biggest girl, but other than that, still clear mostly. Probably got about 2 weeks left til harvest.

Question, when should my final flush be done / ferting cease?

Cheers

DrSpiggity

Shovelhandle · #**113** (**permalink**) Aug-30-2008, 21:40

Looking rich, man!

SnSstealth · #**114** (**permalink**) Aug-31-2008, 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpoof

Starting to get some pistils turning on the top of the biggest girl, but other than that, still clear mostly. Probably got about 2 weeks left til harvest.

Question, when should my final flush be done / ferting cease?

Cheers

DrSpiggity

great job man. nice crystals.....mmmmmm crystals....ahhhhhhhh

if your 2 weeks from done then id stop fert now, might be three though at least for the ones that arent the biggest girl. is say flush on the next watering then put that dehumidifier on high and in a month or less (curing) youll be tore up

db

DrSpoof · #**115** (**permalink**) Sep-07-2008, 10:48

Hi all!

Not much in the way of updates. Girls are chugging along, fattening up for the harvest.

Did my flush last night, put about 6 gallons of water through each girl (in 3 gal bags). Got a pretty sweet adapter for my bathroom sink that replaces the aerator and offers a garden hose male thread to screw into. Should make filling my watering can easier from now on, as well as making flush absurdly easy.

The two shortest may not really be ready to go in a week to week and a half, but theyre gonna get harvested anyway since I'm planning on re-vegging my two biggest ones. I dont really see the two smallest as offering anything significant in terms of harvest anyway, so whatever. More shake for bubble hash (must order bubble bags this week, reminder! lol and some mason jars... hmm)

Forgot to take pics while they were in my room, got a nice one while they were in the shower draining though

cheers
drspiggity

SnSstealth · #**116** (**permalink**) Sep-07-2008, 11:05

Lookin damn good spiggs!! Those ladies look just like our jack herers. You can tell they are related for sure

Approaching that first harvest huh?! I know its hard, but letting those other 2 go a week or so after harvesting the faster one, will make you very happy you did.
whiskeytango

DrSpoof · #**117** (**permalink**) Sep-07-2008, 12:09

yeah... only prob is i only have one grow space at present... so its more a question of, is it more important to use the space to reveg two future moms or to get an extra half o out of the two short ones... if my t5 fixture comes in this week then i may be able to retrofit another space to reveg, in which case i will let the two small ones go for another week... hmmm

yeah the look and smell of these things is amazing. so citrus-y and beautiful... omfg i cant wait lol

Spiggs

hydrocannabis · #**118** (**permalink**) Sep-07-2008, 13:31

dude dude dude dude dude. they R looken real nice.

DrSpoof · #**119** (**permalink**) Sep-12-2008, 21:45

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...ml#post1017909

omfg. i just got the sickest idea. the t5 2ft x 2 bulb fixture came in this week. its bright as all hell. two 26 w bulbs, 52 watts total. instead of the cfls next grow (~100 w of cfls, 50 on each side), i think im gonna suck it up and buy two more t5 2ft x 2 fixtures. (i bought the current one for moms and clones).

and then, rather than have the cfls where they are (prolly not all that useful), hang the t5s vertically on each side of the tent. omfg would that be a way more useful application of those 100 watts or what. that would be absurd.

the things we think of when high

Harvesting the big girls tomorrow, maybe. Gotta pull out my 30x and see if I cant get the thing to stay focused for more than half a second.

Question -- guidelines on revegging? I know 24/0 w my 6500k T5s, but what about superthrive / b1 / other ferts? how much per gallon, etc?

Ordered my bubblebags this week. Getting excited...

DrSpiggs

DrSpoof · #**120** (**permalink**) Sep-13-2008, 22:58

Final watering!!! tried to just give the plants enough for the next few days. Anticipating a Monday or Tuesday harvest. Maybe Tuesday based on the way my schedule is looking. Seeing mostly cloudy trichs with a little amber; so a few more days should hopefully do it.

Got some different rubbermaid trays for the plants, can now fit 5 trays at a time which is nice because now each plant is in its own tray. Brought in a new intake directly from my room so that there will be something other than heavy moist basement cellar air being drawn in. Have to get a louvre for the vent, theres a faint purple glow emanating from it which looks hilarious in my room at night

Accidentally cut the power cord for my dehumidifier while I was working on the new intake... whoops. Somehow I don't have electrical tape (in the midst of moving out into my own place again, so all my stuff is in limbo right now lol) so I'll need to pick that up at the home de pot tomorrow too... hopefully the humid whill stay down, I cut the new intake hole to bring in some less moist air bc I've been chillin in the 57-61% range which is way too high for my tastes...

Read a thread in Basic Growing from a few weeks back where sitnky said 2-4 drops of superthrive per gallon for the first feeding of the revegging moms, then just water after that til they turn around. Not sure how much oomph is left in this soil (have to take the trip to the hydro store soon), so hopefully the moms dont freak out too much...

Did some trimming, gettin rid of dead leaves/branches etc. Never done that til now, prolly shouldve started earlier. Getting leaves shriveling in the middle of the plants here and there randomly... weird stuff.

Plants are all very top-heavy. Cant wait to reveg these moms and start playing with cloning. Also need to figure out where the hell my NL x BB seeds got to... lol!

So soon...

ps -- def. going with my t5 sidelighting plan next grow. Why not, any good pot scientist would do it in the name of experimentation

DrSpiggity

GeorgeThePigeon · #**121** (**permalink**) Sep-18-2008, 00:54

Very good thread Dr. I've been following various Procyon grows on different foums but most were hydro and I'd very much like to go soil as you did. I have already ordered my own Homebox L & Procyon, Im effin excited! Any update?

DrSpoof · #**122** (**permalink**) Sep-18-2008, 21:42

The most important update of them all... harvest.

Took down all 5 girls tonight, after a total of 110 days since germination and 60 days since flowering began. Left the two big girls with about 1/3 of their body mass and stuck em under two 24w 6500k T5 HO bulbs running 24/0. Gave em about 1/12 tsp (about .3, .4 mL, or 6-8 drops) of SuperThrive in 2 gallons of water. Only needed about 1.5 gallons, didnt want to go crazy with the water. I'm supposed to switch to veg nutes now starting with next water, right?

First pic is the bud from the smaller 3 plants. Second pic is the bud from all 5 plants. Third pic is the dead/meh plant matter I threw away (had a separate paper grocery bag of good trim that I'm keeping, filled about half the bag), fourth and fifth are the new light and the big girls revegging.

Havent weighed anything yet, still awaiting the bud in the oven for the initial smoke test... Either way, this is pretty much the happiest day of my life.

I'll check back in with you all soon with some more info...

Cheers

DrSpiggity

ps -- George, good luck, I'm very happy with the Procyon/Homebox combo and I'm sure you will be too

DrSpoof · #**123** (**permalink**) Sep-21-2008, 08:56

hmmm... i have to stop posting replies at odd hours of the night...

update -- hanging in my closet drying at present. smoke test was good, definitely felt like the Jack the Ripper description, not much at first then 5-10 minutes after smoking it was like WHAM!

question, any suggestions on controlling the smell while drying? im receiving complaints from the rents that the whole house smells like a grow op...

whoops, lol...

DrSpiggs

chronictacosbom · #**124** (**permalink**) Sep-22-2008, 03:46

nice man looks GREAT im getting stoked on mine. GOOD JOB MAN

DrSpoof · #**125** (**permalink**) Sep-28-2008, 11:44

update, should be ready to move to jars in the next few days...

not much else to report, been busy with non-weed-related things lately... doh lol

Spiggs

Oh PS -- the revegging looks like it has taken, so I'm gonna try and get those girls into some new dirt soon, theyre prolly not enjoying what theyre in anymore...

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