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LED...SNLxNH...LST/SCROG...

well here it is....the thread to test yield of the Procyon...The lil storks have graced me with some SNLxNH(f)...since she can get to be a HUGE girl...I have germed 4 seeds....still not sure if I am gonna do 2 or 3 plants in 3 gal pots....
what I need to know, is how I should properly LST/SCROG these girls...gotta good 2x3 area, and with the other grow going, wanted to do a single procyon grow with yield being the primary focus....that way we can get a good idea if LEDs can grow out a bigg'un....
wish me luck....and ALL info/ideas for how to do the area would be awesome....Im liking the lead weight/fishin line idea....thanks bozo, i think....

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i think there is an old thread of MVP's somewhere.....let me look......
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I think this is the one I was thinking of......and Opie has a good one too somewhere......
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sweet!!! Ill start my studyin....after a little more ninja gaiden 2....lol
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I see comments from you in both of these threads Stealth....but they both are well detailed with great pics so these are what I would go by if I were doing a SCROG grow.
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HA!!! i remember that thread....alas, i am a stoner....studyin will comsume...
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Glad to see you are continuing to try, and want to wish you the best of luck this grow.

I am pulling for you and will be a convert if you can get the yeild to an acceptable level. I don't think you will get 4 oz. a plant like I have on some, but I would convert if you got 2 oz. or better.

Weedhound did point you in the right direction on the LST/Scrog so I wish you the best of luck and I am subscribed. One other thing you started your plants at the exact same time as me so we will be able to do side by side compareisons along the way.

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This is definitely the grow I've been waiting for.
A screen full of LED-grown buds.... Go for it!!!!
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thanks guys...now I got 2 going at one time...just gotta make sure I update the right info and pics to the right thread...lol, thanks for poppin in guys!!! glad your along for the ride....
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should I frame the screen, or make a trellis outta leader wire?...3 wall corner, so i dont wanna get into the drywall too much...anyone?...MVP, opie?
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I just remembered that I once read where someone made a frame out of 2x2s, he made a square then placed screws every 3" or 4" apart, He then used 12 gauge fencing tie down wire and wound the wire around the screws to make the screen, He then cut 4 more lengths of 2x2 to the level he wanted the screen to be at, and screwed them to the screen as legs thus eliminating holes in the drywall.

This might work for you situation.

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thanks JG! sounds like a plan to me
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I have some questions I hope you do not mind....

What is your plans for feeding schedule?

How long do you plan on VEG?

Do you think to see the Procyons full potential you should put max plants under them?

What medium are you planning on using?

Well You guys know what's up

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GL...plan on vegging as long as i need too...depends on when the strains is where I want it.....and typically for yield SCROG with 2 plants can yield as much as many SOG plants....and medium will be good old FFoF after this first transplant....
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I though you were not a fan of that soil?

That soil will give you NUTE burn if you hit them with a little in the first 2 months and a lot of lock out. I had to deal with it my mothers all the fan leaves were burnt bad they are finally coming back after being out of Ocean Forrest. It took a good Min to nurse them back. I'm using Sunshine #4 and 1 what a difference great water retention and the plants seem very happy. You know what's up I just thought we shot that stuff down in a forum you started?

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The PH is all messed up with that soil once you add shit it all gets thrown off In my experiences. Also the biggest problem I seen was Lock Out.. My hairs on my arm are standing up just thinking about it. When I had the Problem I went to the HYDRO store and I spoke to the head tech @ Hydro Farm very educated Cathy. She knew of the problem and in a flier I read from FF it said if you DO NOT want to feed them use the soil mixes they make or Go with the NUTES instead W/O there soils but not both.
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our did GREAT in the FFoF...just not seeds starting in it....I transplanted last grow into PURE FFoF at about the same time and they went NUTS...just gave em too many extra nutes...image reaper and WH ....many more on here agree with me about FF...you just gotta be CAREFUL with the extra nutes....every OTHER feeding, and lowest rec. doseage.....


MVP...in your opinion, given my area, should I make a framed SCREEN, or use fishing leader maybe, and do like a LST/SCROG thing? dunno...small are, with the fabled SNLxNH...so i do wanna maximize, I am gonna throw 1-2 SNLxNH into the other room with the other strains as well for comparison....but i definitely wanna optimize these SNLs under the single procyon...new to the technique, new to ask ya man
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new=knew...and stuff

i just did LST before....i wanna run a SCROG, just kinda perplexed at how i should frame the screen, baling wire or fishing leader, how to make the legs to support the frame, all while not sacrificing too much room...so 1x2s for frame and legs? one screen only is good? or two...ick...brain hurts...gonna smoke a bowl and go read the DIYs and opie and MVPs threads...n such.....
poof..........
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With a Scrog you want it at least two feet high right?

I would take 1" by 2" Frame out the top and then lay the screen on top and just bang another one by two over the screen. As far as legs depending on space you probably could use the 1'By2"s Or just mount to the walls if you can catch two sides.... I seen a god thread with Scrog grows and the guy said to be sure to get the plants under before they grow to big... Very important he had issues with a few from that.
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i couldnt find too many threads on SCROG....but i got the just...Im gonna have the screen about 8 in from the pots...want em LOW....gonna do two SNLxNH...veg for maybe 4 weeks, this strain will GROW from what Im told, only top her once....and fill the entire 2x3 creen in nug....this is the goal...hope I get it
think I am gonna do the 1x2 thing...some basic screen from home depot or something...I can get this...stay tuned for a fluffy flat screen!
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There is a thread floating around were the guy had a few outside and some indoors. Out of one he Yielded 3+Lbs with the biggest bud being 8 Grams they were all little tiny buds but a whole bunch of tiny ones. Let me try to find it....
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Hey SnS This guy gives a lot of good advice and he can back it up!!!! Read the guy who is advising him..

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One key to SCROG is light penetration. Pay attention to it. Also using a 1x2 opening you should do great. Big enough to make it easy, tight enough to support the ladies. I got some stucco repair screen thingee at De Pot and it worked perfect.

Also don't tie them down too long; I made that mistake in Flower and I got a bunch of leafy bud and it sucked. It smoked just the same but looked like crap and was a slight bummer. At any rate, I'm following the thread 2x week and I'll try to be there for ya Amigo.

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thanks for coachin MVP...what do ya mean tie em down too long....should i start weaving them in at like 6 in tall? or wait for them to get bigger....i was gonna put the screen 8in above the 3 gal pots....2 plants, diagonal to each other on the footprint, with something depot macgyvered for the screen....suggestions?
sorry to pic your brain, just wanna make sure i get em right first time round....
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