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    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST

    Hello!

    It has been almost a month since my baby popped out of the ground (Day1), and I finally decided to share my experience with everyone here. Enjoy!

    This being my first time, I have now realized that I am missing a few important things for my grow (in case of problems), but I think the basics are covered. Also, living here in the F***ing arctic of Finland, gardening stores are few and far between, and have limited products when it comes to cannabis cultivation. But others here have had great success, why not me?!


    Seeds: Feminized Trainwreck from Greenhouse Seeds Co. (I have heard negative things about these seeds, like hermies, but we shall see!)
    Soil: Basic el-cheapo stuff
    Nutes: Canna Terra Vega 3-1-4, Canna Terra Flores 2-2-4, Plagron Green Sensation Top Activator 0-9-10
    Light: 400 Watt HPS
    Vegetation: 20/4 light cycle
    Closet/Cabinet Grow: 51cm x 51cm x 171cm tall
    Large fan blowing directly on the plant to keep temperatures between 26 and 29 when the light is on, temps are between 22 and 24 when off.
    Humidity is too low, but something which I will have to work on in the next grow.

    Here are the pictures so far, from day 15 to day 20... First two are day 15, third one is day 17, fourth is day 19, and fifth is day 20.







    (Anyone know why I can't attach pictures, the posting rules on the bottom left of my screen says I can do everything BUT post attachments, hmm...)

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    LST, Day 27

    I have doing a lot of research about different techniques, such as LST, topping, FIMing, and SCROG. Because I have no experience growing this strain or growing period, I decided to try the LST method for two reasons:
    1)Minimal Stress
    2)Limited Grow Space

    What I am trying to accomplish here is to get more than one top, hopefully I can get like 6, and to do this I will be tying down the main shoots to try and keep them level with each other, as well as giving them each direct light. Right now, she would be about 2.5x taller without the LST (Judging from the length of the main stem).

    I wonder how large this is going to get, since Greenhouse on their youtube video says to veg this for 2 weeks, and flower for 9. I have veged now for 4 weeks, and will switch the lights to 12/12 in a couple days (after Day 30).

    Here are some pics from last night, day 27: In the first pic, the main stem is at the top of the frame. I tied it over to the left, then started curving it around my bucket.



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    Get a spray bottle and spray them with water, that should help with humidity, if it gets too dry give them moisture

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    Spray bottle, you say Inspectah? I thought about that, but I remember reading that the droplets of water can act like a magnifying glass and burn holes in the leaves. But I just just give it a try... Thanks for the tip!

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    maybe droplets can somehow manipulate light but i doubt it, thats why you should spray them with a mist, i think it cools the plant off, not burn holes in it. Why u think the bottom of the ocean is dark? because water stops light, it doesnt intensify it

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    Quote Originally Posted by InspectahEX View Post
    maybe droplets can somehow manipulate light but i doubt it, thats why you should spray them with a mist, i think it cools the plant off, not burn holes in it. Why u think the bottom of the ocean is dark? because water stops light, it doesnt intensify it
    Touché... I understand what you mean about the mist part. Looks like it's time for a trip to the store...

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    Day 30

    Here are some pics from tonight, the end of day 30.

    Switched the lights to 12/12. Reduced my Veg. Nutes by half for the last two days. Tomorrow I will start giving it bloom and top nutes at half strength.

    I posted a question before, but didn't get an answer yet. Maybe someone can help me with the nutes I have...
    Flowering with Bloom and Top Nutes, Experience?

    Any help or advice is much appreciated!




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    Nice LSTing......i love plant bondage.....Cant wait for more pics! Keep up the fantastic work....them plants look healthy as a mofo!
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    Day 37, Flowering day 7

    Hello again,

    I just took some pics after the first week of flowering. She has really grown a lot since last week. No sign of flowers yet.

    I gave her a half dose of the top booster on the first day, with full strength Canna flowering nutes everyday. She seems to be responding well to them. I am still unsure about the top booster, whether its safe to use as directed, because my friend said he had a problem with it. I think I will wait another week before I start feeding her those, we'll see how she responds to a little bit and work up from there.

    Here are the pics (all the same plant, unfortunately she is an only child)
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m01-day-37.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m02-day-37.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m03-day-37.jpg  

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m04-day-37.jpg  

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    update?

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    Day 43 (13 of Flowering)

    Quote Originally Posted by southerntoker View Post
    update?
    Here are the new pics... She has been doing very well and growing a lot. Now I have little buds starting to form at the top of each stem.

    I will start to give it the Plagron Top Activator Tomorrow. I think to be safe, I will have one bottle with the Top nutes, one bottle with the bloom nutes, and one water. I will alternate between the three each time I feed, which is usually twice a day (there is very low RH here and my plant dries out very quickly)

    Here are the pics!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m03-day-43.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m05-day-43.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-43-007.jpg  

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m09-day-43.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-m10-day-43.jpg  

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    dammm she is looking great.

    looks like I still need more pratice on lsting my plants when they R still small.
    well heres to great luck on flowering her great.

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    Day 49, Day 19 of Flowering

    Hello again,

    Here she is, almost 3 weeks now into flowering. I have been feeding her twice a day, alternating between regular water, bloom nutes, and top activator nutes.

    She is in a 10 liter bucket now, but I think it will be too small for the long run... now i gotta find another bucket and some decent fertilizer. I bought some fertilizer the other day but its total shit... a lot of nutes and keeps water.

    Here are the pics, enjoy!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-49-001.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-49-002.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-49-003.jpg  

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-49-005.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-49-007.jpg  
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    wow i def wanna know how u made that happen .. but im having a hard time understanding what u did with the LST (im still tryna get how it works) can u explain in thurough detail plz lol

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    Ill draw a picture for you and explain it, click on pictures because they are to small to just look at


    a plant at a young age looks something like THIS

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-lst-1.jpg





    You tie the top part down gently something like THIS


    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-lst-2.jpg









    Then those little leaves you see coming out grow up to be side branches resulting in a bushiness visual, adding more bud spots in a vertical restriction and also resulting in an even canopy and more main colas like THIS


    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-lst-3.jpg



    Hope this helps, tell me if you need more explanations


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    I couldn't believe my eyes after looking at your last picture number 5 up close. AMAZING. I can only hope to grow mine looking that sweet. I'm definitely going to try lst when i plant in hydro!

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    LST

    No problem about the hijack, its always good to hear a couple different methods. Here's how I did it:

    1: Drilled holes all around the top rim of my bucket, about 10 total

    2: Once the plant became tall enough (I think about 5 nodes in my case), I bent down the top so it was parallel to the ground, and tied it down using nylon string.

    3: Kept an eye on it for the next couple days, and as soon as a branch started to outgrow the "canopy", I would tie it down also. Repeat this step until you are satisfied with your canopy, and stop about a week before flowering.

    4: The main growth stem will always jump up after you tie it down, so I started to tie it down going around the rim of the bucket until it grew at the same rate as the other "tops"

    5: After a week or so, your plant will be covering and hanging over one side of the bucket, and the soil will be exposed on the other (you can see that from my earlier pictures). This is not a problem. As the plant grows more, you can pull the growth stems towards the empty side of the bucket.

    6: When I was getting closer to flowering, I didn't do any major training. By major I mean I wouldn't bend any stems to the point that they were parallel to the ground. I did tie down a couple stems, but only bending them slightly to make more room for the other bud sites.


    This is my first time growing, so I did not want to get too fancy with this. I will be transplanting into a bigger pot, so I think I will have to tie down the stems again (pain in the ass). However, since I only have one plant, I will do a little more training just to spread it out more. I have a lot of bud sites below the canopy, and I will try to get more light into there. I'll post some pics when I do that, maybe later today...

    Hope this helps!

    oh yeah, keep in mind the space that you have available. You can get really carried away with this thing and easily outgrow your space.
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    First grow - LST'd Trainwreck -- Two Trainwrecks in SCRog -- Finn'SCRog 2010

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    Day 51, Day 21 of Flowering

    3 weeks of flowering done, 6 more to go...

    She ended up outgrowing her old container, which was a 10 liter bucket, so I went and bought a 23 liter container today. I drilled holes along the top rim, on the side of the bucket around the bottom for fresh air, and a few more holes in the bottom for drainage.

    I had a lot of strings tied up in the old bucket, and had to cut them all away and start over. What I did this time was spread out the canopy to get more light inside the plant, and hopefully more buds as a result.

    As I explained in my last post, I did not bend any of the stems parallel, just enough to get them where I wanted them. I will have to see how the plant adjusts to the new ties, and I might have to do a little bit more LSTing in the next few weeks.

    Here are the pics:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-51-001.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-51-002.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-51-003.jpg  

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-51-004.jpg  
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    Day 57, Day 27 of Flowering

    Been almost a week now since I re-potted and re-lst'd. She didn't grow much in the first few days, but its been growing steadily again. Here are some more pics...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-001.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-005.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-006.jpg  

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-008.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-011.jpg  
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    Day 57, Day 27 of Flowering more pics

    Some more pics from today...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-010.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-013.jpg   GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-015.jpg  

    GHS Trainwreck Grow Log, LST-baby-pics-day-57-017.jpg  
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    Big tops i like the only child. Nice to know people such as yourself are growing the dank up in the Arctic circle

    I hope to emulate your LST with my new grow. I like the idea of LOWstress. Keep those updates rolling!
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    This is 1 kick as grow. hwow.
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    two big thumbs up, Bub!

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    amazing! im surprised its not more purple though with you temps! is it in a heated space?? i think you will love the trainwreck though i just got a ounce and am floating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandm4n View Post
    amazing! im surprised its not more purple though with you temps! is it in a heated space?? i think you will love the trainwreck though i just got a ounce and am floating
    Yup, she's in the corner of my living room/dining room/bedroom (got a pretty small apartment for U.S. standards)...
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