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edub325 · #26 (**permalink**) Nov-15-2008, 16:41

wow. do you mix your nutes seperate then together or do you mix straight together?

your plants are gorgeous

killa12345 · #27 (**permalink**) Nov-15-2008, 20:08

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Originally Posted by edub325

wow. do you mix your nutes seperate then together or do you mix straight together?

your plants are gorgeous

edub.....if you look at my last post the receipe.......all that goes into one gallon of water.....i first add the grow big....shake the water....then add big bloom....shake....then the open seseme....then shake....ph up.....shake.....check....shake....ph up.....shake.....check......

U get the picture...

edub325 · #28 (**permalink**) Nov-15-2008, 21:41

thank you for your reply your plants are awsome. keep up the good work

bloodbrother · #29 (**permalink**) Nov-16-2008, 10:52

geez my clones are about 21 days from root and dont look nearly that big... although im only using 16 Oz hempy beer cups do you think this is the problem? ALso i dont have a pH pen yet (should be here monday) and I think the pH been quite high. I have one of those pH testers for fish tank where you take 5mL of water and drop 2 drips into it and shake and compare to chart but i have feeling this is very inaccurate so im looking forward to my pen!

how big are the containers you use?

killa12345 · #30 (**permalink**) Nov-19-2008, 04:59

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Originally Posted by bloodbrother

geez my clones are about 21 days from root and dont look nearly that big... although im only using 16 Oz hempy beer cups do you think this is the problem? ALso i dont have a pH pen yet (should be here monday) and I think the pH been quite high. I have one of those pH testers for fish tank where you take 5mL of water and drop 2 drips into it and shake and compare to chart but i have feeling this is very inaccurate so im looking forward to my pen!

how big are the containers you use?

I think the 16oz cups are fine.....i just ran clones in 32 oz gatorade bottles(cut down to about 24 oz and only filled with about 20oz of medium) with a one week veg...and by the end they were no where close 2 being rootbound.....I use the same kind of ph tester with the drops.....seems accurate enough for me.....i bought mine at wal mart for $5(i am investing in a pen soon, but the drops have got me by for a year now!).......and the containers i use are around 3 1/2 liters recycled coffee tins. Thanks for stopping by and feel free to ask as many questions as you would like!

killa12345 · #31 (**permalink**) Nov-22-2008, 17:40

Well guys.....first off to aplogize for not chatting over the past 2 or so weeks...ill visit your logs soon......once again work is killing me.....end of the year....trying to make the books look good... 14+ hour days, 6 days a week, you get the picture....... but back to the grow.

Today i woke up and decided to clone.....i first set up the box for the clone grow to find out that there is no way 20+ clones will fit in there with gatorade bottles.....so id figure ill reduce the number.....i figure i can fit 9-16 clones comforably....so thats what i did.....i took 16 cuts....which was the entire small plant......so now i have 1 large plant which will be flowered tomorrow.....that will be getting a different nute receipe consisting of 2 tsp of tiger bloom, 1 tbsn of big bloom, and 1/4 tsp of open seseme...

Heres what the box looked like this morning:

This is what the plant looked like before i raped it for clones....a total of 16!

killa12345 · #32 (**permalink**) Nov-22-2008, 17:47

Pic of the last remaining large plant(This plant I started to LST today as well):

Plant that has been thrown away(after being raped for clones)!

killa12345 · #33 (**permalink**) Nov-22-2008, 17:52

Way i make clones:

I make cuts with a normal cheap sissor which i bought at Wal Mart......I dip the cuts in Olivia Cloning Gel.....i soak the jiffy pellets in half strenght Fox Farm Nutes which the feeding schedule comes from their web site.(mixture for clones and seeds 1/2 tsp of grow big, 1 tsp of big bloom).....i spray them once or twice a day with 7.0 phed water....and i leave the dome off each day starting on day 3, and i start by removing the dome for about 20 min on day 3 then hopefully 1-2 hrs by day 7 and by day 10-11 usually they will be able to deal with the reduced humidity and no dome. I can usually see roots on day 7-9.

DTRave420 · #34 (**permalink**) Nov-22-2008, 22:58

"Nobody does it better,Makes me feel sad for the rest"

Awesome to be growin' with ya and a privlege to watch you work...

See you next week bro and "Happy Thanksgiving"!!!

dooobster · #35 (**permalink**) Nov-23-2008, 01:33

Killa they look amazing bruddah, and you make cloning look easy!
Definitely an honor to be in the presence of the experts.

Keep up the good work my friend

killa12345 · #36 (**permalink**) Nov-23-2008, 10:14

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Originally Posted by DTRave420

"Nobody does it better,Makes me feel sad for the rest"

Awesome to be growin' with ya and a privlege to watch you work...

See you next week bro and "Happy Thanksgiving"!!!

Thanks DT......its a pleasure to watch you and dooobster work also.....i feel like were like HG refugees sometimes but its all good.....i rather grow next to a few close friends then a whole bunch of associates

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Originally Posted by dooobster

Killa they look amazing bruddah, and you make cloning look easy!
Definitely an honor to be in the presence of the experts.

Keep up the good work my friend

Dooobster.......really there is nothing to it.....i think once you find your system.....it just like making sure the checklist is checked twoce.....im sure you will soon take the plunge into cloning.......and im no expert.......i just found out what works for me....in my envoirnment....and i just repeat!

Thanks DT and Dooob for continuing to comment.....sometimes i feel like ure the only two watching but then i see the views and i realize that some people just dont comment all the time!

killa12345 · #37 (**permalink**) Nov-30-2008, 17:38

Well.....

I went away for thanksgiving.....sh*t it was cold...well not really around 30F....but us southerns especially me.....i rarely see the temps drop below 70F.

I left for 5 days....i left a person which i felt confident could keep my babies alive.....got back and they all look perfect...

This is the 7 day of bloom.....they will get the same nutes as last week.....2tsp of Tiger Bloom, 1 tbsn of Big Bloom, 1/4 tsp of open seseme.....

The large plant is getting big....nice smell, but isnt showing one preflower yet....none....not really worried im sure they will be here any day.

The clones are 7 days old since getting cut...they are looking good and i expect to see roots any day now!

Enjoy the pics!

dooobster · #38 (**permalink**) Nov-30-2008, 17:42

Damnnnnnnnnnnnn killa... They do look perfect.
Lovin the symmetrical canopy & GOOD GOD @ the tight internodes!!
You've definitely got your system dialed in bro...
Keep 'em comin!!

Peace!

bloodbrother · #39 (**permalink**) Nov-30-2008, 18:06

Looking good bro.. I got a question I posted a thread but figured i'd ask a hempy pro. So Ive been trying to get my nute formula down (using the formula on the nutes wasnt working at all burning or deficient or something but now that i changed it starting to look better.) Also I got my pH pen so what i was feeding thinking it was 5.8ish using the fish tester was actually a 4.0-5.0! Ive been putting nutes in 5.7 but they come out about 4.7 what does this mean nutrient buildup or something? I know you use nutrients every time but would a flush benefit in my case? or shoudl I just leave it and see if the runoff eventually raises?

killa12345 · #40 (**permalink**) Nov-30-2008, 18:47

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Originally Posted by dooobster

Damnnnnnnnnnnnn killa... They do look perfect.
Lovin the symmetrical canopy & GOOD GOD @ the tight internodes!!
You've definitely got your system dialed in bro...
Keep 'em comin!!

Peace!

Thanks dooobs...they arent as big as other grows but she gettin there! She does have nice nodes though! thanks always bro....hope ure turkey day was good!

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Originally Posted by bloodbrother

Looking good bro.. I got a question I posted a thread but figured i'd ask a hempy pro. So Ive been trying to get my nute formula down (using the formula on the nutes wasnt working at all burning or deficient or something but now that i changed it starting to look better.) Also I got my pH pen so what i was feeding thinking it was 5.8ish using the fish tester was actually a 4.0-5.0! Ive been putting nutes in 5.7 but they come out about 4.7 what does this mean nutrient buildup or something? I know you use nutrients every time but would a flush benefit in my case? or shoudl I just leave it and see if the runoff eventually raises?

blood brother....man i dont know where to start....here goes....i read you thread, and i dont think its gonna be hard to figure this out!

Man first i think you should tell me about the setup.....really the type of nutes? frequency of feeding? AND MOST IMPORTANT.....How much runoff do you get before you stop feeding....I think there might be a little nute build up but ive never had them....and all i do is follow hempy's origanal thread almost to a tee.....just different nute...Ie heard some crazy ph number from runoff soooo....this might not be so bad....please feel free to post as much info on this thread as you wish...even some pics might help...

what week are you in...man there are so many factor in this....and i have so little of the picture to work!.....Please post asap so this problem doesnt get any worse! peace killa

dlovejah · #41 (**permalink**) Nov-30-2008, 20:22

Go Killa... Looking good.. Hey deja vu. Those plants are following me...d

oSecretGardeno · #42 (**permalink**) Nov-30-2008, 22:29

good god killa, your plants are the epitome of health and vigor. Same with the clones! Looks like you have the process down pretty well ... I'm gunna have to try those hempy buckets.

Keep it rollin man, those babies are beautiful.

You have CFLs in the rubbermaid box right?

Peace buddy,

-secret

DTRave420 · #43 (**permalink**) Dec-01-2008, 00:11

BRAVO Killa!!!...Simply amazing speed and gorgeous lookin plants and clones...I'm on the edge of my seat as usual when I watch your grows...C'mon with it friend...
See ya next week brother K!!!

killa12345 · #44 (**permalink**) Dec-01-2008, 05:07

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Originally Posted by oSecretGardeno

good god killa, your plants are the epitome of health and vigor. Same with the clones! Looks like you have the process down pretty well ... I'm gunna have to try those hempy buckets.

Keep it rollin man, those babies are beautiful.

You have CFLs in the rubbermaid box right?

Peace buddy,

-secret

What up secret...thanks for the complements....ive been using this same process for the last 4 runs....and the plants continue to look pretty symetrical......i just need to fine tune the plant efficiency......and maybe i can get a 1/2 lb out of this set up! Thanks for stopping by......any help on the hempy's you need feel free to ask...plus there is a pretty detail way in my last log just for a reference! see u soon bro!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTRave420

BRAVO Killa!!!...Simply amazing speed and gorgeous lookin plants and clones...I'm on the edge of my seat as usual when I watch your grows...C'mon with it friend...
See ya next week brother K!!!

Thanks DT......the hempys do grow fast....i think you would like this.....its really not as fast as active hydro....but no where as slow as soil.....youo should try them one day dt.......easy to find the supplies.....thanks for all the comments always.....got a good laugh from the nasa scientist comment.....funny because all my friends call me the mad scientist! lol

bloodbrother · #45 (**permalink**) Dec-01-2008, 12:46

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Man first i think you should tell me about the setup.....really the type of nutes? frequency of feeding? AND MOST IMPORTANT.....How much runoff do you get before you stop feeding....I think there might be a little nute build up but ive never had them....and all i do is follow hempy's origanal thread almost to a tee.....just different nute...Ie heard some crazy ph number from runoff soooo....this might not be so bad....please feel free to post as much info on this thread as you wish...even some pics might help...

what week are you in...man there are so many factor in this....and i have so little of the picture to work!.....Please post asap so this problem doesnt get any worse! peace killa

Ok well using Holland Secret nutes which has a Growth/Micro/Bloom ratings of 2-1-7/5-0-2/0-6-4. I mix these 8ml/8ml/8ml (per gallon that will be in reservoir) now but WAS up until 2 feedings ago going by the bottle instructions and going 10ml/5ml/3ml per gallon. Ill add all the growth then close bottle shake all micro close bottle shake all blood close and shake leave it for about 20 minutes then add it to reservoir which has airstone and usually 2 more gallons. Adjust pH with aluminum sulfate down to 5.7ish leave for a day check next day to make sure pH is proper then water.

The 3 gallon res last me about 3 feedings. I feed every other day. I may not be letting enough run off you say 10% runoff but 10% of what? The size of the container orrr?) I usually just let it run off til the bowl that they are in fills up almost to the holes in the 18 oz cups. This is probably about half a cup runoff but I will get an exact volume for you later today. As well I will take picture later today and post.

The plants are probably 1 month old or maybe month and week

EDIT: Oh and do you have a link to the original hempy method post?

killa12345 · #46 (**permalink**) Dec-01-2008, 18:12

Day 8 from cutting and we have root.....Here we go....stage 2 is going to be a SOG Micro Grow 2x2x2 with 6 cfls....hopefully about 9-12 clones...

but here some pics of what i saw when i got home today! Another 6 days and stage 2 will start!

zebulon · #47 (**permalink**) Dec-01-2008, 20:06

Really nice....Can't wait to see stage 2....

bloodbrother · #48 (**permalink**) Dec-01-2008, 21:27

oK so I watered again this time pH in was 5.8 came out 4.7 again. This time I just watered with regular tap water and used some aluminum sulfate to get pH sown. After watering I measured runoff was between 125-200ml for each 18 Oz cup. Im going to get a ppm meter from hottub store tommorow check my tap water but I think its good although the pH of the water is 8.5 so maybe its not as good as I thought.. Ok so attatched is a picture of the problem they are having. The leafs start turning yellow around the edges moving inwards and they get these black/brown blotches.

killa12345 · #49 (**permalink**) Dec-02-2008, 03:59

is this growth only happening on the bottom of the plant....i have leaves that look like that exactly....but on the bottom my plants...usually due to not enough light at the bottom of the plant!

Also...your nute receipe look more like a high growth formula now then when using 8/8/8....i think you should try to stay close to their nute receipes... heres a chart...did know if you had it

http://www.pnwgardensupply.com/files...utrient3-1.pdf

bloodbrother · #50 (**permalink**) Dec-02-2008, 09:20

Ya its mostly at bottom but they are under a 400W MH so I don't know if light is issue but yeah I will switch back to the original bottle feeding after this flush and test the PPMs today and see if they are anywhere near the chart. Thanks for help!
Edit: But I mean wow looking at yours they are like 100times bushier than mine but this is just my first try at hempy so Ill play it out and try it again to see if get any better results. What # hempy run is this for you?
Oh and do you think putting them into bigger containers (like 1.2 L big gulp cups) would be better than the small 18 Oz cups?

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