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FourTwenty4Life · #1 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 15:36

Ok so its finally time to start my grow log. Here are the specs....all comments/questions/critique welcomed.

Grow type: 4x2.5 growbox made of scrap wood painted white. Trying differnt combination of soil mixes consisting of the following products..
-Fox Farm Ocean Forest organic soil
-Miraclegro Organic Choice potting soil
-Miraclegro Sphagum Peatmoss
-Miraclegro Perlite
-Dolomitic limestone from a friend

Strains Growing: 2 Buddah Seeds White Dwarf autoflower fems, 3 Barneys Farm 8 Ball Kush, 1 G13 Thai Super Skunk.

Lights: 2 24inch F20 plant and aquarium lights + 1 60w CFL for veg stages. 400w HPS w/lumatek digital ballast for flower.

Passive air intake and small fan in bottom corner pointing to opposing corner, upwards for exhaust.

Watering with only distilled water.

Fox Farm Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Grow Big, Open Sesame nutes to be added as needed after the first 14 or 15 days.

Starting seeds all natural style with hole in soil mixture in plastic cup, cover, water method. I only have enough room to grow 2, MAYBE 3 plants in the box, the rest will be put outside after 3-4 weeks.

Plan on flushing 8-9 days before chop. Dry in cardboard boxes and cure in glass jars.

I'm excited about this grow and just started it yesterday. I will post pics ASAP once I borrow a digital camera. Updates to follow...Stick around for a good grow kids!

FourTwenty4Life · #2 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 15:58

Correction on my lights...1 F20 and 1 T5 plus the 60w CFL for veg.

FourTwenty4Life · #3 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 17:52

Here are some pics. You will notice the T5 isn't in any of them because I didn't get a fixture yet. They are fine without it for now but I'll have the T5 in by the end of the week. The limestone and G13 seed were just in plain bags so nothing special to really take a picture of.

FourTwenty4Life · #4 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 17:53

And more...

FourTwenty4Life · #5 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 17:55

forgot to mention the air purifier too. Sorry the seeds pic isn't the greatest.

FourTwenty4Life · #6 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 18:00

So basically there is that lid on it with the light attached for veg stage. When it comes time for dark periods, I simply throw a big black sheet over everything and turn off all the lights. Once vegging is done I will hang the HPS and adjust it accordingly, and use the lid I had for veg stage as added height/extend the box. It's quite simple and was fun to build. The little holes at certain corners were done on purpose for air circulation/heat.

Comments/Questions?

FourTwenty4Life · #7 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 19:06

I'll give good rep(if it allows) to the first person who says they're going to follow my log....lol cmon, reaper, g13, dtrave, any1?? I'm high

GoldenGraham84 · #8 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 19:17

ha! busted your grow log cherry! no rep necessary.

FourTwenty4Life · #9 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenGraham84

ha! busted your grow log cherry! no rep necessary.

I kept my word. Thank you!

GoldenGraham84 · #10 (**permalink**) Mar-24-2009, 19:36

ah, you went and did it! making me seem like a rep whore now. have to reciprocate rep, then shower nine times with the steel wool. and i still won't feel clean. thanks though, 4204L

FourTwenty4Life · #11 (**permalink**) Mar-26-2009, 20:52

Well it's day 4 and nothing yet. I contribute this to the lack of light I had in the box. To speed up the process I decided to put the HPS on them for 24 hours to see if that helps things along. Oh and I finally got the FF nutes but obviously waiting until 2 weeks after sprouts. Here are some pics...

FourTwenty4Life · #12 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 10:09

Day 5 and it looks like both AF White Dwarfs popped and are just poking through! Go figure, the weakest strain came up first...then again they're made to grow faster. I'm just happy SOMETHING came up. I was worried maybe I under watered but I guess not. I watered them on days 1, 2, 4 and a little today later. The HPS dried the top pretty quick. I think I should raise it, its about 20 inches from the cups. I don't want to burn the little ones.

FourTwenty4Life · #13 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 10:28

Make it 3 out of 6 now! The G13 Thai Super Skunk popped up! Just waiting on the 3 Kush.

bigtopsfinn · #14 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 10:39

Looks pretty good so far

Only thing I would do now is cover up those clear plastic cups, cuz the roots don't like light.

Good luck... I'll be watching

FourTwenty4Life · #15 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 10:52

Thanks bigtops, I will cover them right after typing this lol

Would it be a good idea to have 3 diff gal jugs? One plain distilled water, one water + GB, and one water + TB/BB/OS? Or should every nute solution have its own gallon jug?

Rusty Trichome · #16 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 11:09

Best to mix nutes on an as-needed basis. They don't keep for more than a day or so before degrading the chemicals and the ph. If mixing for seedlings or rooted clones, I'll mix half a gallon, feed what needs to be fed, and use the rest on houseplants.

Overkill with regards to the soil combo's. Would pick a brand of soil, and stick with it. Diferent companies add different shit to their mix, and can ovedose the plants if mixed together. (extreme case, but something to watch out for) Having different mixes makes troubleshooting a bitch, too.
I'd stick with either the Fox Farms, or Miracle Grow...and the perlite. All the other stuff is really unnecessary, unless re-using your soils.

With the MG Organic Choice, remember...most organic ammendments and additives are slow-release. (road kill, calcium...) Don't overcompensate or freak-out if plants are a tad slower in getting the nutes. For the first three weeks to a month, compensate for the organic nutes already in the soil mix, by cutting-back on dilution strength of your Fox Farms nutes.

Don't forget to check-out the FF schedules, and your other post.

FourTwenty4Life · #17 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Best to mix nutes on an as-needed basis. They don't keep for more than a day or so before degrading the chemicals and the ph. If mixing for seedlings or rooted clones, I'll mix half a gallon, feed what needs to be fed, and use the rest on houseplants.

Overkill with regards to the soil combo's. Would pick a brand of soil, and stick with it. Diferent companies add different shit to their mix, and can ovedose the plants if mixed together. (extreme case, but something to watch out for) Having different mixes makes troubleshooting a bitch, too.
I'd stick with either the Fox Farms, or Miracle Grow...and the perlite. All the other stuff is really unnecessary, unless re-using your soils.

With the MG Organic Choice, remember...most organic ammendments and additives are slow-release. (road kill, calcium...) Don't overcompensate or freak-out if plants are a tad slower in getting the nutes. For the first three weeks to a month, compensate for the organic nutes already in the soil mix, by cutting-back on dilution strength of your Fox Farms nutes.

Don't forget to check-out the FF schedules, and your other post.

Lots of great info, thank you. I am trying various soil mixes to see what results I get so that next time I grow, I'll look back and see which had best results and just stick with that. Luckily I am keeping a written log of everything on paper so here are the mixes...

White Dwarf 1 is 2 parts FF soil, 1 part sphagnum peat moss, 1/2 part perlite

WD 2 is 2 parts MG Organic Choice, 1 1/2 parts peat moss, 1 part perlite

G13 Thai SS is 1 part MG OC, 1 part FF soil,1 part peat moss, 1/2 part perlite

8 Ball Kush 1 is MG OC 2pt, 2 pt peat moss, 1 pt perlite

8BK 2 is 2 1/2 parts FF soil, 1 part peat moss, 1/2 pt perlite

8BK 3 is FF soil only, all parts

I didnt use the limestone like I thought I would so gave it back to my friend. I think maybe half strength nutes on FF mixes and all MG mixes wont get nutes until a week or two after I start FF soil nutes. Then only 1/4 strength nutes on MG soil mixes. What do you think?

Thanks again Rusty.

HighonaMountain · #18 (**permalink**) Mar-27-2009, 19:58

lookin good man, can't wait to see how the diff. mixes turn out

FourTwenty4Life · #19 (**permalink**) Mar-28-2009, 20:08

Thanks highonamountain, your ladies are looking mighty fine yourself!

So I've named the 3 sprouts so far..the 2 dwarfs are Frodo and Sam because obviously they are short and have a long journey ahead of them. To continue with this theme, I decided to call the G13 SS Gandalf since it's a real full MJ plant, starts with G, and is part of the fellowship.

The past 2 days I've been doing about 12 hours HPS and 12 hours with my new veg box cover, this time instead of just the F20 hanging, I have the F20, T5 and Walmart grow light. It's day 6 and none of the Kush have popped but I've seen seeds take longer to pop in other grow logs so I think I will give them some time. Today is a non-watering day so if the soil looks slightly dry, that's why.

Pictures are:
-The veg box cover with 3 lights attached
-Overhead view with HPS on
-Frodo(dwarf 1)
-Sam(dwarf2)
-Gandalf(g13)

FourTwenty4Life · #20 (**permalink**) Apr-02-2009, 13:03

It's been five days since my last update so I thought I would post the latest.

I've had NO LUCK with the Barneys Farm seeds, as you can see in the picture, none of them have sprouted. Because of that fact, I sprouted the G13 SS feminized freebie seed and sure enough, it popped up today but it's hard to tell from the picture, look closely at the potter, that's the one.

So right now I have the 2 white dwarfs, 1 G13 thai SS and 1 G13 SS fem. I will be transplanting the dwarfs to my 15in @ top/ 12in @ bottom potters in about 5-7 days. I haven't decided exactly what to do with my G13s yet. I'm thinking about trying to keep my feminized G13 inside the entire time so I can control it and then put the other one outside and just keep an eye on it, fence it up, etc..what do you guys think? I'll be happy to get a minimum of 1 whole ounce but I'm aiming for more like 3-4 ounces(total, not per plant), obviously wouldn't complain if I got more.

It's day 11 of the total grow project but only day 6 since the initial 3 popped up so that means I won't be adding any nutes for another 8 days at least.

albatrossSKY · #21 (**permalink**) Apr-02-2009, 13:19

nice job your doing so far. ill be watching this one...

FourTwenty4Life · #22 (**permalink**) Apr-02-2009, 13:26

Thank you! "Echoes" from the Meddle album is one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs by the way lol

I wanted to mention that the different soil mixes are JUST FOR SEEDLING STAGE. When I transplant, I've decided that they're all going to go in Fox Farm Ocean Forest. I have the FF nutes so I figured just stick with the same brand. I might do a little MG if I put more than one outside.

FourTwenty4Life · #23 (**permalink**) Apr-04-2009, 10:23

Day 13 and a MIRACLE!! 8 Ball Kush #2 popped up today!! Lets hope that its a female

Divestoned · #24 (**permalink**) Apr-05-2009, 03:33

AWWW how cute...it's like a grow...only smaller. Im watching now so i'll be available to throw random insult's

Dive

bigtopsfinn · #25 (**permalink**) Apr-05-2009, 03:46

congrats on another baby!

that really sucks about the Barney's seeds

I was looking forward to those! Oh well...

Kind of curious about those autoflowering strains. What kind of light schedules will you be using?

If those Barney's don't pop within a couple weeks of planting, I would to dig them out and try to pop them with the paper towel/cigar tube method... Better than tossing them in the garbage. Or send them back and ask for more

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