I should be posting some new pictures here soon. They are looking way better than those pictures. It seems that the youngest one (two weeks behind the oldest one) is bigger than the other two. They have really started to bush out since I LSTed them. This is the most boring part though going through the vegetative state. Which is another reason I haven't really been posting much in here. Hard to find any questions or problems when I can diagnose most of them now. I'm sure though I will run into a problem sooner or later (knock on wood) and will be here to have someone answer! I appreciate you taking the time to check out the log!

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Anybody used/using it? I just purchased some and was debating on how to go about adding it. I wanted to get rid of the MG crap and try something different and it seems that the only difference other than MG products were this and like a couple others.

Alaska Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1
Alaska Morbloom 0-10-10

I know I will need the P and K, but will the fish emulsion be enough? or should I use maybe some of the morbloom also? I was thinking of maybe using 1 part emulsion to lets say 1/4 part morbloom or somewhere along those lines. Anybody have a good mix or way to use it?

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Plants look good Italiano. Can't wait to see them grow up more!

is there any directions on the labels italiano?


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Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1

• Indoor plants, large: mix two teaspoons per quart of water.
• Indoor plants, flowering: mix one teaspoon per quart of water.
• Shrubs: three tablespoons per gallon of water for every 2ft. of plant height (doubt this one matters)

It also has mixes for annuals and bedding plants, bulbs, vegetables, and herbs. Also for root vegetables as well as perennials, roses, vines, and berries. So much different applications.

Morbloom 0-10-10

• Indoor plants that bloom: one teaspoon per quart of water. Apply every 10-14 days
• Shrubs: Two tablespoons per gallon of water for every 25 sq. ft. of soil (doubt this matters either)

Other metals found in the morbloom(PPM):

• Arsenic (As) 8.5 Cadmium (Cd) 1.2 Cobalt (Co) 0.85 Copper (Cu) 10.7 Lead (Pb) 4.3 Mercury (Hg) 0.1 Molybdenum (Mo) 0.85 Nickel (Ni) 1.7 Selenium (Se) 17

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I was thinking of adding a mix of both considering one doesn't have any N and the other does. What would be a good mix for them? How much more N than P and K should I have for them? LoL I'm sounding like a real n00bie. Sorry just finally upgrading from MG fertilizers and want to do it right.

Maybe a tablespoon (for a gallon) of the fish emulsion and maybe 2 teaspoons of the morbloom? Should I use just the emulsion and not the morbloom? I know I should have done more research before purchasing this stuff, but I was already at Lowe's and just strolled by it and grabbed them. It says it can be used organically which is another reason I got it.

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they are still in veg right? how far along? speaking of, where is the camera?!

i'd go with a teaspoon of the fish emulsion and about a 1/2 a teaspoon of the moorbloom.

the reason i say this is because i've read the for veg a 5:2:3 (NPK) ratio is desireable. i know this won't be perfect, but it's a starting point. from there you can adjust as you see fit and push them to the limits.


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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

hey shake, where did you find the 5:2:3 info? I've been looking for that. by any chance to you know the ideal numbers for flower?

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helpful links:
cfl-hps-how-much-light
el-cheapo-guide-lighting
drying-curing-your-buds
med-strains-specific-uses

honestly i can' remember fluid. somewhere on the net. lol. for bloom i've got 1:5:4.

hope this helps. i'll see if i can't locate this info somewhere. i just jot notes into a notebook i keep. so i did read it somewhere and didn't make it up!


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"happy trees"

troubleshooting form

"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

thanks shake, I'd rep ya, but you know the deal. it's good to write stuff down, cause I can't remember squat. any strains known to help short or long term memory? LOL

Italiano, you gonna have to throw me and shake some weed porn. I know you gotta be kickin ass on this grow.

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helpful links:
cfl-hps-how-much-light
el-cheapo-guide-lighting
drying-curing-your-buds
med-strains-specific-uses

already fluid. my memory is going too! *note to self, work on a strain to help short/long term memory!*

PORN! PORN! PORN! PORN!


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"happy trees"

troubleshooting form

"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Yes, they are still in vegetative not to sure how long they been in vegetative but two of them are 42 days old and the youngest one is 35 days old (from seedlings). Youngest has 7 nodes and the 2 oldest have 9-11 (btw the two).
Funny though, the youngest is by far the biggest, which leads me to believe its a male. I'm calling it now, so we'll just have to wait to see when the branching starts and I take clones!

Sorry to sound stupid, but your saying I should go with 4 tsp (one Tbs. and one tsp.) a gallon of the emulsion and 2 tsp. to the gallon of morbloom?

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it's okay italiano, i know your not stupid! i said i would start with a teaspoon of the emulsion and 1/2 teaspoon of the morbloom! at least that's where i'd start and see how they do and adjust accordingly. then, depending on when you flower them you shouldn't have to give them much during flower.

just my $.02.


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"happy trees"

troubleshooting form

"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Yeah, so I gave them what you said and they seem fine with it so far. Got a little on a couple of leaves and dabbed it up before it soaked in the leaf, but it got a little burn still.

On another note, that emulsion is some stinky shit. Makes me gag if I smell it. Also leaves a smell on ya for awhile. Walked outside to talk to my buddy and he goes, "What is that smell? Smells like fresh soil and shit!" LoL I got a good laugh then realized it was me that smelt like that!

Also, I damn was putting the pots back in their spots and I damn pinched a fan leave between the two pots and ripped the leaf some, but I've been checking on it and it doesn't seem to have bothered it too much.

Got a question also....When you take clones from a plant, does the yield suffer from the cuttings? Reason being, it seems to be the best way to do a SOG. I want to do a SOG with clones and I don't have the room for it, so I thought about taking a shit load of clones from the BB and pack them in my closet for the SOG. Would it be possible to completely rape the whole plant for clones? Then that way, I could maximize my CFL lighting in my closet without having to worry much about getting the penetration to the lower sites.

Appreciate any feedback!

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yeah, you can rape the plant italiano! just leave a tab bit and you can re-veg her and do it again!


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"happy trees"

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

BET! That's the plan then! I was going to just take some cuttings from the bottom, but if I can completely rape her and grow ALL clones, I am going to make it happen! I will just give my buddy the rest of the plant and let him re-veg and keep her!

Also, I can take cuttings, root them in a couple of weeks, then go right into flowering? Would 1 gallon containers be sufficient enough to flower in?

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you can toss them into flower as soon as they have roots.

one gallon might be pushing it. give it a shot and let us know how it turns out.


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"happy trees"

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Wait, so should I just go with two gallons? I don't want them to get rootbound in flower....

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i think you'll be okay with a gallon if you let them get roots and then toss them into 12/12. you might run one or two in 2 gallon pots just for comparison.

i've heard bigger pot (roots) = bigger buds. no experience of my own to speak of. but i've also seen a pretty nice size plant in a 4" square pot. it was healthy as can be, it just needed to be watered everyday and was way too top heavy.

so i say you've got some room to play with so see what works best for you and your area etc.


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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Nice grow so far. Ill be sure to watch because I want your review of Peakseeds. Their Northernberry looks pretty crazy and for $40. Look forward to seein new pics.

I almost went with the Northernberry myself, but then realized the leaves were just purple not the actual bud. Also, it has different pheno's so there was no telling if you could get another one to look like that. I went with blueberry cause I wanted the fruity taste and the HOPEFULLY purple/lavender buds.
Plus, I want a more of a narcotic stone and supposedly BB is good for that!

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Good stuff going on here! Just my butting in but when you rape the BB.. don't top it! if they are like mine they dont like it.. responded well to fim'ing but topping one of them made it turn to a straight sativa and looks like a 12 weeker nowas far as budding... yeesh. Could just be what was going to happen no matter what but..........

I never top my plants. I did a longgg time ago and didn't like it, so I just stick with LST.

So far I have 2 confirmed females. The biggest one (also the youngest) is starting to show little sacks so I will be bringing it to my buddies house to finish pollinating and then catch the pollen for a future pollination. Met a guy through a buddy of mine who happens to be doing a grow himself and wanted to trade some clones with me. Come to find out he's currently growing white widow. So in a couple of weeks when I start to take clones I will be getting my hands on some WW also Bout to seed one of the clones with the BB pollen and get me some Blue Widow!!

On another note, I have also started 4 skunkberry seeds. So I will be introducing all these strains in the next few weeks. Damn, I guess I will have to change my thread name to WW, BB, and SkB. Be on the lookout everyone

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they've got a bluberry x white widow cross out there by g13 labs. it's called blue venom .

(that's a link.)

not that there is anything wrong with doing your own thang! i'm envious my friend.


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"happy trees"

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Yea, I seen that.....Dinafem also has their version of blue widow. Dinafem Seeds

Talking damn $140 10 pack feminized OR about $15 a seed....It definitely looks wicked dank! Check it out!

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yeah, that looks good. it would be fun to take that and cross it with something else. maybe a purple strain.....

i can't wait to see what you do with it!


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"happy trees"

troubleshooting form

"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence