Thread: Irydyum's White Widow Project

Hey everyone. Just wanted to post some pics of my current grow, I'll try to keep it brief unless there is a question to answer. But a bit on the specs:

Seeds from Greenhouse, WW femenized, didn't have that color coating on them though.

400w HPS and 400w metal halide, I am switching them out trying to get the best of both worlds. Used MH for first 2 weeks to limit stretch, switch to HPS for mid flower 3 weeks, then back to MH to finish em off.

Using BioBizz All-Mix system, Biogrow, Bloom, and TopMaxx, and Earthjuice Assist at each feeding. Feedings every other watering. Watering every 3 days, approx 2L per 5gal container.

Here's a couple pics of the plants on day 17 of flowering, and a pic of the setup. One tent is flowering, the other is veg/clone. These were vegged for approx 50 days before triggering flowering.

you know i'm in my friend!

how do you like those tents? i was debating with either a tent or building a grow area.

nice ladies you've got there by the way!


-shake

Originally Posted by headshake

you know i'm in my friend!

how do you like those tents? i was debating with either a tent or building a grow area.

nice ladies you've got there by the way!


-shake

I love em, plus, I don't have to rebuild when I move. Good thing cause these 2 tents will be in Texas before the year is out. WooHooo. Maybe someday, somehow, you can smoke what comes out of em? Stranger things have happened.

Hey now Irydyum...

I grew some WW back in the 90's. Nice strain. Yours looks great, keep it up.

I couldn't help but notice that the two tents are different Mfrs...
I have a DR. if I may, I'd like to ask who made yours, which do you like better and why.

M.P.

that'd be awesome! i forgot that you are moving this way. hell yeah.

i guess i better start looking at tents.


-shake

The one on the left is the DR120 Darkroom. The one on the left is the homebox xl.

My growstore was carrying the homebox, then I went to get another and all they had was the darkroom.

I do notice small light emitting from my veg tent (darkroom with curved openings) when the light is on, so I can't account for it being light tight. I just exercise light discipline in the room with the tents so I know in my application it has no problems.

I have clambaked the homebox xl tho, and I can assure you it is light tight, i'm just not sure of their availability since my store switched carriers.

Both have the same hardware, venting and that stuff, but the Darkroom is silver mylar like on the inside, and the Homebox is white visqueen plastic like.

I like the Homebox better because it has extra layers of material everywhere there is a seam. Overlaps on the zippers and such. The only downside to it is you can only access it from one side. Not a biggie for me as you can see in the pic.

I'm reeeeeallly stoned so I hope this makes sense. I like the Homebox better, but they both serve their purpose fine. My only worry is if you will have light leaking in on a Darkroom, I would set it up and test it thoroughly before putting anything precious in it.

I think I can post this link for you here Shake, if I can't, then I'm sorry modgods, we can take it out.

The Dark Room

This is where mine came from. I have met everyone in the store and they are all fantastic people, that's the only reason I keep going back.

sounds good. i'll check it out. thanks for the link. i always like to do business with good people.

oh, and sorry to fill up your log and keep you all busy and stuff.



-shake

Hey sorry to stir things up a bit, but what are you looking to accomplish with the MH after the stretching stops....I understand that some use that "blue" spectrum to keep the plants from stretching so much, but from what I heard (correct me if i'm wrong) the blue during flowering tends to give you more of the "fluffy" type buds rather than tight dense buds. I myself don't see any benefit from putting the MH back in after mid flowering with the HPS.

Sorry to be such a pain in the @$$ but I'm curious sometimes!

Originally Posted by irydyum

I have clambaked the homebox xl tho.

I wonder if there is a videotape of that shit somewhere?

Looking sick my friend and I can't wait till its that time.

The internode streach is very slight, that combined with the huge leaves shows the dominate indica genetics...(you must use the Franco from Greenhouse Seeds voice)

Originally Posted by Italiano715

Hey sorry to stir things up a bit, but what are you looking to accomplish with the MH after the stretching stops....I understand that some use that "blue" spectrum to keep the plants from stretching so much, but from what I heard (correct me if i'm wrong) the blue during flowering tends to give you more of the "fluffy" type buds rather than tight dense buds. I myself don't see any benefit from putting the MH back in after mid flowering with the HPS.

Sorry to be such a pain in the @$$ but I'm curious sometimes!

I have used the MH to flower an entire crop and I don't think the buds were as dense as the HPS, but I do feel they were much more flavorful, and the resin production was higher. This vs. a previous grow of same clones under HPS only.

My thought is to add the HPS now to increase production while the plant is in that "hyperdrive" flowering mode. HPS has the most lumens, so I figure give it the most energy when it really needs it. Then switching back to MH when the growth slows again to push out as much resin as possible. I believe putting the MH back on it with the UV that is missing from HPS, will accomplish that. Thus hopefully, the best of both worlds. Plus I have both lights sitting there so I figured why not.

I'm not telling anyone else to do it by any means, nor am I saying that it will for sure change anything. The stretch may just happen when the HPS comes in, screwing me on keeping em tight or something else to nullify what I have done. Who knows, I'm just putting up the truth, and the whole truth of what I'm up to here.

I don't mind pain in the ass questions at all. It's the stupid ones I mind. "Can my cfl produce like HPS?", or "I'm running 46 watts of CFL and my bottom leaves are dying, HELP!". Those kinda bug me depending on the day.

Originally Posted by irydyum

I have used the MH to flower an entire crop and I don't think the buds were as dense as the HPS, but I do feel they were much more flavorful, and the resin production was higher. This vs. a previous grow of same clones under HPS only.

My thought is to add the HPS now to increase production while the plant is in that "hyperdrive" flowering mode. HPS has the most lumens, so I figure give it the most energy when it really needs it. Then switching back to MH when the growth slows again to push out as much resin as possible. I believe putting the MH back on it with the UV that is missing from HPS, will accomplish that. Thus hopefully, the best of both worlds. Plus I have both lights sitting there so I figured why not.

I'm not telling anyone else to do it by any means, nor am I saying that it will for sure change anything. The stretch may just happen when the HPS comes in, screwing me on keeping em tight or something else to nullify what I have done. Who knows, I'm just putting up the truth, and the whole truth of what I'm up to here.

I don't mind pain in the ass questions at all. It's the stupid ones I mind. "Can my cfl produce like HPS?", or "I'm running 46 watts of CFL and my bottom leaves are dying, HELP!". Those kinda bug me depending on the day.

Yea, I feel ya on those type questions! And what your saying makes sense too. I did hear that blue is supposed to help in resin production, but never tried it myself. I have a CFL grow and do have some of the 6500K spectrum in there as well because I heard it was good for the buds as well. I'm still really trying to get my gardening in tune, but I will learn the details soon enough.

Looking good by the way! I've read a lot of your posts and seen all your attachments (i.e. pictures) and I must say you got a nice setup and your plants seem to be loving it! Whatever your doing, keep on keepin on!

Not much new to report here except the widow is living up to it's name. Its already producing a bunch of trichromes and today is only day 20. You can see the pores on the big fan leaves where resin is readying it's exit. Crazy. I don't know if these pics will let you see em, but it's there.

They look kinda small in the pics to me, but they are 3 feet tall. They are in 5 gallon square containers. Very compact tho, I only topped one of em (pics of her soon), but all the single colas secondary growth is VERY short. Hopefully it all stays as one huge cola. Only time will tell there.

What up? All is quiet around here as expected. Just thought I'd throw up a couple pics. I'm really baked so I'm not positive at this moment how long it's been since the last post, but I know I haven't hit halfway through flowering yet. Prob 26/17 i'd imagine.

I wish we had smellovision, the widow smells fantastic. Can't wait to find out how she tastes and smokes. Anyways, anyone dropping by, thanks.

looks ridiculous!

-shake

Wow, nice looking buds irydyum. I checked out that Attitude seed bank and had my eyes on Wonder Woman by Nirvana. The pic on the site looks close to yours. It said it was close to WW. I wonder what those babys would look like outside. The grow tents look easy too. I wonder if i could fit in one though? Its something i could use in my room.

Great pic's, il be watchin em grow

I Concur with Shake...... Looks friggen RIDICULOUS! Great grow great strain!

NUFF SAID!!!

Send Me A Top Cola!

hey irydyum, you know you are my dog. i wasn't trippin off the soil thing. no worries. i knew you were kidding. maybe the MG soil is part of my problem. don't let rusty get to ya. i'm not sure what that ws even about.

when are you planning on heading to texas? i obviously need all the help i can get!


-shake

lookin good

You must spread some rep before repping Phatsesh again. Thanks for showing up in the MH/HPS argument over there. I was thinking to myself, if i had plants under a 1K and a 400, OF COURSE the ones under the 4 and not quite under the 1K yielded worse. The ones under the footprint of the 1K have more fucking light. With that said, i'm just glad someone else backed me up for a change instead of the alternative.

Shake, you my dawg. I like giving you a hard time cause you take constructive criticism well, and for some reason you understand me. I'm hoping to be there around the beginning of october or so. I'll do anything in my power I can for you, I'm losing my protege here when I go so I'll def need another right hand (no one could ever replace you brother). You should really use my yahoo link to contact me one day, I would love to have you in the rolodex.

GrowDawg, thanx for the props....But you must be insane, I might send you some fans, but my colas??? I would much rather stick a fork in my eye, but I suppose there was no crime in you asking

Here's another pic or 2, got bored yesterday (day 29) and took some shots. L8r all

you're gonna like the white widow......trust me...

That's the plan DP. Thanks for cruisin through this way, great to see you around here still. I miss the people I looked up to when I first got on these forums, glad to see you haven't left.

Hi ...irydyum......I visit/patrol every day, somewhere. If I can't add something constructive?...I don't say anything.

...anywho...let one of those WW's go 5% amber trichs...crippling high...

they look very, very nice...I'm jealous...

I'm planning on just that. I tend to be an early harvester because I like to be more active while baked, but this time I want the MAX trichs to come out of the widow. I want it to look like that famous pic that GH sells you on when you buy it.

I'm assuming you have grown GHWW before, how long did it take you to get to 5%? I'm hoping it can be done within 9 weeks, I'm within a moving deadline and have a little leeway but not much. I think 10 weeks will be the absolute max I have to finish em.

Have you ever messed with trying to speed em up at the end shortening the days or anything? Anything you can share about the widow with me would be appreciated. Thanks man

Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp

Hi ...irydyum......I visit/patrol every day, somewhere. If I can't add something constructive?...I don't say anything.

haha i do the same but i get tired of answering the same crap

Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp

...anywho...let one of those WW's go 5% amber trichs...crippling high...

they look very, very nice...I'm jealous...

a lil amber went along way in my widow (it wasnt ghs). and it would knock me out