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EnhAnceD · #1 (**permalink**) Oct-07-2009, 03:38

Hello everyone. Hope everyones been keeping it green while Ive been away. I would have been on ohhh about aug 7 or 8th, but unfortunitly I had nothing to grow. Customs had and still has my beans in package from the uk since aug 8 2009. So the amazing attitude seed bank reshipped them, and i got them 4 days later. Amazing. Needless to say I had to wait 20 buisness days which is a month......I would be 3-4 weeks into flower by now damnit. Oh well. Anyways, Iv built myself a bubble cloner, cost me 36 dollers, and its PIMP. I set up my little tote to hold 16 clones and its working great, tho i dont have the cuttings ready, not for 2 weeks at least. I decided to go with a more SOg style of grow, but b.c my grow room is actually in my wall up off the ground it will by a bit difficult to get in there, but thats why im doing the cloning, since im CFLin it up, that would be the best bet. Same soil as last round, mg starter soil, mg moisture contorl and mg potting soil. I mixed in a good amount of perlite and she will be good to go up untill about 3-4 weeks before harvest no nutes. I did happen to get some free worm guano from hopedepot, lol walked in they gave me 4 free bottles, lol and im going to run a nice lst on my 4 j47 and take cuttings from them, then continue veg on 4 mothers, once the cuttings have rooted, if possible I will take another 8-16 cuttings from the 4 mothers, switch them, and put the box into flower, then the cuttings will have a 2 week root time, and i can just add them into the box, maybe not, we will see. Im still trying to get some sort of schedule going but i dont have dedicated rooms for veg and flower. Ill get some pics up of my bubble cloner tomorrow.

DTRave420 · #2 (**permalink**) Oct-07-2009, 17:36

Sounds good EnhancedD...I've done the JACK47 and it's a pleasure to grow...Very good smoke...I'm currently growing an L.A Woman and flipped her to 12/12 yesterday...First time growin' this strain for me...

Glad to hear you got your beans...I've used them before and I have no complaints...Nice to have another option for SweetSeeds genetics which weren't always the easiest beans to get with a US address...

Wishin' ya a smooth grow and an abundant harvest man...

EnhAnceD · #3 (**permalink**) Oct-08-2009, 16:52

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Originally Posted by DTRave420

Sounds good EnhancedD...I've done the JACK47 and it's a pleasure to grow...Very good smoke...I'm currently growing an L.A Woman and flipped her to 12/12 yesterday...First time growin' this strain for me...

Glad to hear you got your beans...I've used them before and I have no complaints...Nice to have another option for SweetSeeds genetics which weren't always the easiest beans to get with a US address...

Wishin' ya a smooth grow and an abundant harvest man...

Thanks dude, ya the pics look amazing of this shit, i cant wait. I dont know if the L.A woman is fem im sure its just a reg seed, but hopefully the influence of the other 4 fem jak47 will make it a female.

nice to hear u started ur flower cycle. Nows the semi climax of the grow, kinda like, stop getting taller, start showin the goods, then it stops shooting up, and the goods come. 2-3 weeks yaya.

So I just finished cutting the holes in the lid of my bubble, my right hand really hurts for the scissors i used, no drill

. I decided that since I have 2-3 weeks before I can take cuttings for clones I went ahead and cut all the new shoots from this heart shapped bamboo I got for my wife, snipped the ends, scarified somewhat and used some root hormone and its going good. This is mostly to make sure that its going to work, which i dont know why it wouldnt.

I do have 3 questions hopefully someone with experience can answer, I want the bottom of the stem to just hover, maybe an inch or less above the water, as the roots will grow and fall, or do i want the ends submersed in the water?. Second question is, Im using a Dark Gray rubbermad tote, how important is it make the box completley lightproof? and third b.c im not using a humidity dome or nething, should I keep the light on 24/7 or keep to a 18/6.

I will post some pics as soon as I finish this doobie. Peace lol

Italiano715 · #4 (**permalink**) Oct-08-2009, 16:58

I'm along for the ride!

EnhAnceD · #5 (**permalink**) Oct-08-2009, 17:04

whats up italiano, thanks for stopping in, Ill be posting pics as it goes along. Gonna be a nice 4 month project. I finally got my wife to agree for me to SOG my cubby closet, so im gonna try and get up to 32 smaller plants in there, might be able to, prolly not tho, maybe only 20. But ya, Its on and its going to be wayyy better than last time.

EnhAnceD · #6 (**permalink**) Oct-09-2009, 03:15

Im excited. Iv got my bubble cloner going full blast, ph corrected water that I brita filtered and let sit out for 24 hours. My little girls arnt old enough to be cloned yet so I decided that I would cut down some bamboo and make some cuttings, scarify, cut on 45deg angle, dip in water for a min, dip in root hormone for a min, then into the lid they went, today is day one. So Ill leave them for a bit and see what happenes.

Not only that but Ive decided to not smoke for 2 weeks inorder to pay for my new 90W UFO LED Tri Spectrum. This is going to make my grow even more stealth and even more effecient. This LED Lamp is designed for a 4x4ft space which is exactly what I have, plus I can get them really really close to the plant b.c they have vertually no heat. SO i can get rid of the homemade door I got, ditch the fans and carbon filter and put my normal cubberd door back on. I cant wait.

I made a little video of my DIY DWC Bubble Cloner that Ill add to my videos of cannabis.com

Anyways, not really much to show in pics, but ill go take a few of the girls tomorrow. My unknown the L.A Woman and 2 of the jack 47 have sprouted and are on their second node. I got 2 other Jack47s in peatpellets ontop a heating pad with a towel ontopthe pad. They should sprout up in a day or two.

Its 3:13 am, and I just finished purchasing that light, and my wifes not going to be too happy about that either, only b.c she had agreed to a 4 panel 225/900LED in total r/b 8:2 and it was about 40-50 cheaper, but I read online that they are not that good, Soooo I went with the UFO. Neways, Sleep time. See u all soon.

VapedG13 · #7 (**permalink**) Oct-09-2009, 16:32

photos??

I waana see the weed

EnhAnceD · #8 (**permalink**) Oct-09-2009, 19:45

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Ill get somemore up soon, nothing much to show yet.

I ordered some super thrive yesturday, should be here on monday, and my light as well. CANT WAIT.

DTRave420 · #9 (**permalink**) Oct-09-2009, 20:49

Nice start EnhanceD...Are you gonna chuck the males if the L.A Woman goes that way or are ya gonna make beans???

EnhAnceD · #10 (**permalink**) Oct-09-2009, 22:06

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Originally Posted by DTRave420

Nice start EnhanceD...Are you gonna chuck the males if the L.A Woman goes that way or are ya gonna make beans???

Thank you much DT. I havent decided. I dont really have an area that I could put him where I wouldnt infect the other ladies. I have 4 Fem seeds in the process and 2 regulars. 2 of the fem jack47 are germinating, the one tho isnt looking very good, seems stunted, i think i may have drowned it, and im impatient. Then theres this lille bitch. DSC01034.JPG.

I planted the seed after only 2 days of germ cuz she cracked and the tip was coming out, actually both were like that, the one shot up and grew and is on its second node, this one is just sorta i dunno dying, u can see the first set of leaves are almost dieing. Not only that, the whole plant is an inch long and hasnt rooted at all. All the others have rooted. So i took her out, which was not hard at all, put her in a cup of my 24hourbritafilteredbottledwater and then dipped her in some root hormone for a min, then put her in a pot of real dirt, not the peat pellets, and made sure the stem/root part is in contact with the dirt. So hopefully it goes well. Im putting the lamp on 19.5/4.5.
I got the seeds in some papertowle thats damp, in my drower ontop of a heating pad, they get nice and warm which they like. Sooo time will tell. But I just cant friggen wait for this light, its my christmas present thehe.

headshake · #11 (**permalink**) Oct-09-2009, 23:22

looking good enhanced. can't wait to see the new light in action. nice cloner. i'm gonna have to build one of those maybe.

those peat pellets tend to hold water so perhaps that's a problem? i too know what it's like to be impatient!

good growing!

(sub-scribed!)

-shake

EnhAnceD · #12 (**permalink**) Oct-10-2009, 11:35

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Originally Posted by headshake

looking good enhanced. can't wait to see the new light in action. nice cloner. i'm gonna have to build one of those maybe.

those peat pellets tend to hold water so perhaps that's a problem? i too know what it's like to be impatient!

good growing!

(sub-scribed!)

-shake

ya the cloners is sweet. cost me 35 to make, my pump was expensive, the rest is simple creativity. U can go to a hedro shop and get those pucks u see on the "retail" ones, but they so big, I just used a thick sponge, and I wrapped a straw around the base an inch from the bottom tip of the plant and then wrapped the sponge around that. Its been 2 days tn and I wanna look but nothings gonna be there not yet at least.

Im curious to know if anyone can put their .02$ in on that runt. I really need to revive her as she is a fem seed. It would make sense to me, that putting th rooting hormone and minor scarification is near the same as taking a cutting but the plant is so week at this point, im not sure if iv helped her or hurt her, what do u guys think?

EnhAnceD · #13 (**permalink**) Oct-16-2009, 00:01

So. The little lady in my last post didnt make it, she dried up and those small inner leaves dried up and she just died. It really was odd why she didnt take off like the the others did, no root development really either. Hmm, i dunno, maybe ill just have to wait longer in germination.

Anyways, the bad seed is growing fucking wierd, its missing a finger of its second node. AND its not growing its main stem shoots normally, if u look, theres really no new growth, kinda looks like I topped it but I didnt. Really wierd.
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The L.A Woman is looking the nicest and I fear it be a boy, from my first grow, all the plants that flourished the greatest were boys. But LA is looking nice.
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The two jack 47 are looking alright, one is up to third node, other is still seedling, i have one more jack47 germinating as well.
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And here is my new light, looks very nice, designed to provide the exact light nm required for photosynthesis its 8:1:1 red blue orange. Plus by adding a few low heat cfls I can get closer to that full spectrum and get that damn cardboard door off as i dont need air circulation and get this badboy cubby light proofed.
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EnhAnceD · #14 (**permalink**) Oct-18-2009, 15:25

Hello everyone, today is day 15 of grow. I sorta have the plants in a progression of 7 days, where i started germinating 3, then did another, then did anohter. Im a little dissapointed with these fem seeds tho, only 3 of the 5 sprouted and I have my foul proof germ setup going on with a heat mat and total darkness, works 100 percent unless the seeds are shabby, anyways, so One just didnt make it in the dirt, it shrivaled up and died, the other just never fully germinated, could be too much water in the paper towel but for 5 days, the tail poped, and nothing. So i put it in dirt tip down, .5mm from top of dirt and nothing has yet to come, I let the soil dry out and watered sparingly. Nothing. So I have 3 Jack47 Feminized, 1 L>A woman, unsure if reg or fem and a fucked up bag seed which ill show you in a minute.

Ive done a shat load of research on these LED lights and it looks like im in for a good ride. Iv watched alot of youtube videos as well with people compairing the ufo to a 400w hps and 600hps, even comparing 1 ufo 630nm 1ufo 660nm 1 ufo 460 and 1 400 hps and the results are if not better the same. Im thinking about getting a quadband ufo as well, red, blue, orange and white. They are the 6th gen ufos. Its amazing as well. I found this little link on hightimes that explained why L.E.D lights work L.E.D. GROW LIGHTSReally interesting stuff.

I was wondering tho of a few things maybe you guys could advize me on.
1. Superthrive. I know I only need "drop/drops of this, but can it be used during watering cycle for veg and flower, as well as being used for a bubble cloner.
2. Molasses. What kind. Iv read about a tablespoon per gallon? Is this every water, every other water, and is this during veg or flower?
3. Im curious if anyone has a suggestion on this, Im probably going to do it b.c it sounds like a good plan but ya. I want to put another timer inside the cubby for the daylight 6500k cfls that are hanging. Iv left the cubby closed for over 6 hours with only the ufo and the temps get to about 80deg with the heating mat I have under the 5 of them. so I cant have those cfls running all day long. I was thinking about having them come on for 30 mins 2-3 times a day. I think will give the plant some good full spectrum light, and a little stress and help with growth. Anyone think this is a good or bad idea. Id leave them on all day but the temps get around 85 - 90 and I cant have that lol.

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DSC01085.JPGThis one is my mutant bagseed. As you can see the main stem shot has disapeared almost as if I have Topped it, but I havent. you will also notice this plant only is growing out of one side of the plant. New shoots out from the fan leaves are only on one side. Im really curious to see what she looks like bigger. I am going to start my lst with the next 3-4 days.

DSC01086.JPGThis is a better picture of the top of the plant. Thats it, the part that looks like it might be the main stem is actually a fan leaf.

DSC01089.JPG This is one of my JAck47 seeds, Strange bumby leaves. I think this may have happened from me foliar spraying the plant with worm pop fer 2-2-1 mixed with water, and then the lights being really close, sorta fryed the leaves or something, the others dont look like this, its strange, even looks a bit more yellow thand green int he new growth area.

DSC01093.JPG This is my Lovely L.A Woman, looking amazing.

DSC01100.JPG And the ambience of brightness. Haha, when i leave the room everything looks greenish blue. Its crazy. Anyways, keep fit and smoke up.

Later guys

headshake · #15 (**permalink**) Oct-18-2009, 18:04

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Originally Posted by EnhAnceD

I was wondering tho of a few things maybe you guys could advize me on.
1. Superthrive. I know I only need "drop/drops of this, but can it be used during watering cycle for veg and flower, as well as being used for a bubble cloner.
2. Molasses. What kind. Iv read about a tablespoon per gallon? Is this every water, every other water, and is this during veg or flower?
3. Im curious if anyone has a suggestion on this, Im probably going to do it b.c it sounds like a good plan but ya. I want to put another timer inside the cubby for the daylight 6500k cfls that are hanging. Iv left the cubby closed for over 6 hours with only the ufo and the temps get to about 80deg with the heating mat I have under the 5 of them. so I cant have those cfls running all day long. I was thinking about having them come on for 30 mins 2-3 times a day. I think will give the plant some good full spectrum light, and a little stress and help with growth. Anyone think this is a good or bad idea. Id leave them on all day but the temps get around 85 - 90 and I cant have that lol.

1. you only want to use superthrive during veg. there is a reason for this, i just can't recall off the top of my head. rusty trichome posted a link. i think i've got it somewhere, i'll try to dig it up.

2.you can use any molasses, but blackstrap is the best. basically, it's the most nutritious of all the molasses. you can find it at grocery stores etc.

3. why not give it a shot. it can't hurt. make sure to post your results for others to learn from!

everything looks good.

good growing!

-shake

MonkeyBone · #16 (**permalink**) Oct-18-2009, 22:18

Subbin!

I so love mutants!

Keep a close look at you mutant's secondary growth!
Nice lights setup!

KillerBudG · #17 (**permalink**) Oct-18-2009, 23:34

Enhanced, I have seen that mutant problem before. Actual this last summer from one of my bag-seeds. Around the time it got what you would call its 5-6th leaf set, which mine looked funny. It started to just have a awsome strong stank to it, then if you lst or just squeeze it you knew it was gonna be dank. Mine started to get skunkish smell to it. Then I had another one but did not grow as good or smell as good. I thought mine grew like this due to lack of light penetration threw other plant. I dont really know what caused this but they both started to flower like they was females but started getting balls fast, so watch yours as it matures. I hope you have better luck with your mutant than I did. On a better note tho they branch lovely for lstin IMHO

Good Luck my friend

~One~

~BudG~

EnhAnceD · #18 (**permalink**) Oct-20-2009, 21:27

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBone

Subbin!

I so love mutants!

Keep a close look at you mutant's secondary growth!
Nice lights setup!

Hey MOnkyeBone, Thanks for stopping by. Ya Im actually very impressed by this mutant at the moment. IT is growing very very fast, which make me think male, but, it sorta skipped the main stem and started to shoot off again to the left and now that has become the main stem again lol. Wierd. I am lsting all of my plants. As they are going to be used as mothers for clones. SCROG is on the way.

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Originally Posted by KillerBudG

Enhanced, I have seen that mutant problem before. Actual this last summer from one of my bag-seeds. Around the time it got what you would call its 5-6th leaf set, which mine looked funny. It started to just have a awsome strong stank to it, then if you lst or just squeeze it you knew it was gonna be dank. Mine started to get skunkish smell to it. Then I had another one but did not grow as good or smell as good. I thought mine grew like this due to lack of light penetration threw other plant. I dont really know what caused this but they both started to flower like they was females but started getting balls fast, so watch yours as it matures. I hope you have better luck with your mutant than I did. On a better note tho they branch lovely for lstin IMHO

Good Luck my friend

~One~

~BudG~

Killer Bud, thanks as well for stopping by. Ya im curious to see where this one goes. The LST im doing is going to provide great places for potential clones.

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Originally Posted by headshake

1. you only want to use superthrive during veg. there is a reason for this, i just can't recall off the top of my head. rusty trichome posted a link. i think i've got it somewhere, i'll try to dig it up.

2.you can use any molasses, but blackstrap is the best. basically, it's the most nutritious of all the molasses. you can find it at grocery stores etc.

3. why not give it a shot. it can't hurt. make sure to post your results for others to learn from!

everything looks good.

good growing!

-shake

Thanks for the help Shake. I did get that second timer, and I put those cfls on it. I set it to go on for 30m from 6:30 to 7, then for an hour from 10-11, then for 2 hours from 2-4, then 1 hour from 7-8, then 30 mins again from 11-11:30. My Veg times are 6am-12am so I set it to sort of warm up, then give em some good time with them on. They seem to be liking it so far. Only thing tho is I might have to shorten the times, the cubby stays completly closed with no air in and out, I got the LED ufo so I could do this, and later read about adding full spectrum/cfls for better growth. The temp got to 91deg today with it closed during the 2 hour period. I am able to leave the door open a crack and the temps stay around 83-85, thats with the heating pad I have under the plants and 3 6500k cfls.

I am having a problem that maybe you or someone else can assist me with. It is really bothering me and I can only attribute it to a few things. I ordered 5 feminized Jack47 beans from attitude, and got a free LA woman and I germinated them all. The L.A woman geremed fine, got her in soil and she is doing just like my last grow, no complaints. But the Jack47 seeds are not turning out the way I thought. Now, I did water very early in the veg of these jack47 seeds, but as well with the bag and the lA woman. I have a 2-2-1 wormpoop fertilizer, i mixed in about a quarter cup into a spray bottle, this is a low strength considering the fert could be used to water directly with as per instructions. I sprayed the foilage and the soil with this mix and have watered when the cups feel light and dirt uptop feels dry. The one that has grown ok had some wierd looking growth that I attributed to water being on the leave and the lights causing damage, and the other 2, well. Maybe Im being impatient but, they are growing sooooo slow. They germinated fine, got int he soil and the next day they both popped up fine and opened up fine. Now they are just sitting like this. No new growth, just first leaflets, and really really small first newgrowth leaves. I had thought it might be due to the worm fert in the water being used to early so I flushed her. Im thinking maybe i watered these guys a bit to much and they are suffereing root rot, or i dunno, they just seem stunted. My water is ph corrected to 6.5, left out for 24 hours, they are warm being on the heating pad, I have a towel over top so they dont get hot. I even noticed that on the one that I flushed somewhat, the first leaflets, one started to, rott? die, like the tip dried up and slowly started moving towards the innards. This happened to a another seed as well which just died. maybe a week old. Are these seeds crap, or am I doing something wrong. I wash my hands before I touch. Now I dont know how impacting nictoine is on very young cannabis plants, but Iv herd its not good. I think Ive touched them a few times after Ive smoked, a cig or a blunt so I dont know. Help?. So basically what Im doing right now is I have moved them to my clone cubby, its a 24/0 on light with a 6500k cfl, I have put 2l pop bottle bottoms over top of them to act as humid domes, and Im just gonna let the dirt dry up. I figure if I over watered they should perk back up and start looking for water, but as well I may have just fucked them up with stress of some sort. I donno my friends, I dunno.

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