Thread: Irydyum's Kush grow

No, no Ice Cooler in my future. I'd rather just up and move somewhere cooler Gives me even more of an excuse.

I know the temps would drop if I could run my air cooling line with less bends, but being in such a tight space I only have about a foot on the outsides of the hoods. That leaves room for a 6" duct bent at a 90. So my 220 cfm fan is probably only pushing (random guess) 75cfm through the system. Tight turns drastically reduce efficiency of airflow.

I am planning to move for real, back home so to speak, so any major alterations on this space are out of the question. Soon enough I'll be trying to fit into a new space and have a whole new set of problems, so I figure I'll just do what I can, with what I have, the best that I can. I'm sure all will turn out well, it's not rocket science after all.

Thanks for droppin in

A 90 degree turn reduces efficiency by 1.5x so your 220 CFM fan with one 90 degree angle is now worth 154 CFM. Here is the calculation to figure out your pulling power:

Room H x W x L = total square feet / 5 (air exchanged every 5 minutes) = your starting CFM.

Take the result and add the following:

1.5x for each 90 degree turn
1.3x for any carbon filter
1.3x for each hood you are pulling through
1.5x for any reducer on the line
Add 10% for each foot of duct, carbon filter, hood in the line.

This will give you your total CFM needed to exchange the air in the room every 5 minutes. Now just because you are exchanging the air every 5 minutes does not mean you will be pulling sufficient air to cool your light and the room. Drop air exchange to every 4 or even 3 minutes and you will solve your heat issues.

Hey irydyum i just was wondering what you thought about using the peat pots for starting seeds in them. I read the other day on a seed site that it slows growth at a point. I tried to grow same strain in one and one without, but i one which had the cup in it went male, 4 outta 5 not bad. But saw you using them and thought id get your 2 cents. Iv come to the conclusion i dont like them because if they dry at the least, the roots will not grow through the pots. But, maybe kept wet there isn't a issue with them? Because i saw your roots pop right through them and looked healthy as hell, so ya think it was just keeping them wet continuously was my problem?

They were not on my watch this time, but had important beans in them which i had to really baby. Just now are they getting to a point where im comfortable enough to put them out in the ground.

Thanks man, your grow looks like its gaining speed, i like to watch the kush grow

I'm not sure about why people would have said they are bad for seedlings. I've been using them for quite some time now and never had any issue with growth related to them. I like to use them because of the ease of transplant, as soon as i have roots popping through the peat pot (always happens) I just drop in dirt. No pulling a tiny rootball out or anything, giving me less chance to hurt fragile little seedlings.

I'm sure proper watering would contribute to the health of them as well. I was watering my small peat pots daily with about 50ml of water. They would be bone dry each morning, which is what I wanted. Wet/dry cycle. The peat is breathable, so it's more difficult to drown small plants as well.

LetsSeeYa, if youre talking about the peat pellets that expand at first watering, ive noticed they do affect growth a bit... not too bad, but enough that i will not be using them again. they even killed one of my lowryder seeds.

a friend of mine has had a similar problem, hes on week 4 and his plant is only 2 inches tall. its under 300 watts of the good leds, and 250 watts hps, hes using advanced nutrients, so i can assure you its not the lighting or fertz.

he noticed when letting the medium dry out between waterings, that the peat contracted away from the rim of the pot, suggesting that my lowryder seeds died because the peat was too dense and soggy.

youd be better off starting in some fertless seed starting mix, or some rockwool.

the best i have ever used, is starting in rockwool, then moving into coco coir in a very small pot, letting the seedlings get rootbound before transplanting. not saying its the best ever, but, upon transplant into bigger pots with advanced nutrients the growth is explosive, my blueberry clones went from 2 inches tall, to a foot and half in a week. granted i have great genetics to work with, but ive used organic mixes, compost, seed starting mix and others.. this method just seems the best so far outside hydro.

Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Hey irydyum i just was wondering what you thought about using the peat pots for starting seeds in them.

Pretty sure he meant pots, call me crazy, but I didn't see mention of pellets. Though I do think peat pellets are for shit, they seem to stay wet forever, and don't work well for rooting cuts. I'd advise anyone to stay away from them if you can.

Just a quick update. Remarkably quick growth with the HPS/LED combo going. Great branching, very deep green color, zero leaf drop, everything is a-ok Temps have been stable around 80 with lights on.

Side note, in lieu of running the second HPS I invested in a second LED bar so I can run the two side by side. I'm curious to see how it plays out. Definitely can tell that the watering schedule needs to be backed off with LED, I'm used to much higher temps and quicker drying pots. MUST let them completely dry out, no exceptions.

Here's a couple of pics from today.

wow do those look healthy or what?! Very nice.

Originally Posted by irydyum

Pretty sure he meant pots, call me crazy, but I didn't see mention of pellets.

haha ya sorry man im an idiot. reread it right after.. your shit does look fkn gravy tho

Thanks for dropping in

Originally Posted by irydyum

Just a quick update. Remarkably quick growth with the HPS/LED combo going. Great branching, very deep green color, zero leaf drop, everything is a-ok Temps have been stable around 80 with lights on.

Side note, in lieu of running the second HPS I invested in a second LED bar so I can run the two side by side. I'm curious to see how it plays out. Definitely can tell that the watering schedule needs to be backed off with LED, I'm used to much higher temps and quicker drying pots. MUST let them completely dry out, no exceptions.

Wow irydyum its only been 4 days from the last pic you posted. Almost an understatement as to quick growth and great branching. What was the last strain in the pic posted on the 26th. She looks like a beauty

So, it seems your liking the LED's, think ya might go all LED at some point. Id really like one just for the heat issues plus.Plus Stra8's LED grows look pretty nice, but i think he runs like 6 of them big ass ones.

Il be in touch man

Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

So, it seems your liking the LED's, think ya might go all LED at some point. Id really like one just for the heat issues plus.

I don't know if I'll do an all LED run or not. Hard to say, maybe I'll be convinced to try after this run. I have always loved my HPS and that's a love affair I don't want to give up on, it's always treated me very well. I'm just interested to see what the combination does in flower.

Originally Posted by irydyum

I don't know if I'll do an all LED run or not. Hard to say, maybe I'll be convinced to try after this run. I have always loved my HPS and that's a love affair I don't want to give up on, it's always treated me very well. I'm just interested to see what the combination does in flower.

Looking good....you are about 1 1/2 weeks behind me in flower. I'm excited to see what you can do! So far the LED's have been good to me....I'm loving the consistant temps. The true test will be the end result....I'm growing the blue dream again just to see the comparison with HPS....and I love that strain! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread!

I agree....we used the peat pots for our girls and the transplanting was so easy and stress-free for us and the girls. As long as the soil is kept moist so the pots are a little moist, the roots will get through okay. In fact, when we transplanted, a couple of the girls were almost rootbound, as we hadn't thought to lift the peat pots out the containers to check for roots. No harm done though and girls loved thier new homes, no signs of stress at all, which I am more than positive was due to not having to disturb them during the transplanting. I'd certainly use peat pots again!

The grow is looking good LEDs are getting more and more popular during grows be it part grow of complete grow using them. Always nervewracking moving out of your own comfort zone though! Some day I might try the LEDs, as I do like the results you guys are getting, but I'll wait a while until I'm not such a novice....practice makes perfect as they say

Keep on keeping on

Holy Pink Panther son. The LED's are lookin proper and those girls look sooo lush. Cant wait to try.

Pink Panther....lol

I know, sometimes I look up into the air to see if the mother-ship is going to beam me up

Here I am another 5 days later, plants are now showing pistils all over. They look like they are on the verge of exploding. Everything has been transplanted into 2 gallon containers where they will finish their lives at. No signs of shock or stress the day after xplant, they actually "grew overnight".

I got the second LED bar in, so in lieu of the second HPS, I decided to do side by side with 400w HPS vs. 300w LED. Let the games begin. Temps are steady at 80 degrees now with all the lights on, and about 73 with lights off. To this point they have only had 1 flower feeding of SensiBloom a/b and Bud Candy. The rest has been straight water.

Here's a few pics so you can see the changes made recently.

lookin good my friend

Aloha Irydyum,

"I decided to do side by side with 400w HPS vs. 300w LED. Let the games begin".

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Mahalo nui,

Weezard

Many thanks for the kind words and the faith, I only hope to not disappoint. I sure am glad you jumped on, always a good dialogue when the Weez drops in, any input is welcomed and valued

I can't say for sure the scientific value of running these since the 2 light sources are in such close proximity, bleed over would surely skew any data about a "heads up" competition between them (while providing me the best of both worlds). That being said, I'm growing primarily so I can smoke good, so my only hypothesis is that I will smoke the pot from BOTH the LED and HPS. I can say that with certainty and confidence. Secondary to that I predict that they will both be good. I'm not willing to speculate any further than that... for now

LSY- You had asked me a question about using the peat pots and roots not growing through them or something. When I was transplanting the NL/Skunk I took a picture of the root mass for you to show how they do indeed grow straight out the side. For your viewing pleasure...

Originally Posted by irydyum

LSY- You had asked me a question about using the peat pots and roots not growing through them or something. When I was transplanting the NL/Skunk I took a picture of the root mass for you to show how they do indeed grow straight out the side. For your viewing pleasure...

Wow irydyum your plants have really grown a lot fast and with nothing but water. Plus great branch growth tooI luv those pic's with the LEDs in the back ground, just adds to the beauty of them. Also, you have more growing space then i had thought.

Yeah they rooted well for sure. My indoor was started that way, but after they popped i put them straight into dirt. My issues were when i didn't get them into dirt right right away, so im guessing that they just weren't kept wet. But iv been convinced that they are to my advantage, just need to make sure they are always wet. I freaked when i saw your roots popping right through the cups, but i guess it was because mine were only sitting by the sliding glass doors. So, if i had my lights on them, they would have started to develop a root system and not just stretch like they did. But like i said, they were not all mine and couldn't move them, but after saving them, i just took all of them. So, there should be a WR in there. Its some good shit man

Grow is looking killer man

Sorry, short on time right now, just wanted to put an update so no one thinks I disappeared Plants have been fed this week, and got an application of Bushmaster. I don't want these to get much over the 18"-24" range. Here's some pics.

Originally Posted by irydyum

Sorry, short on time right now, just wanted to put an update so no one thinks I disappeared Plants have been fed this week, and got an application of Bushmaster. I don't want these to get much over the 18"-24" range. Here's some pics.

Looks great irydyum, the growth is amassing and they look healthy as hell man. Id hate to give up that space when ya move. But i guess your going to have to look for a Realtor who can hook ya up with a good grow space. I can see it on the sign outside the house for sale ''great grow space'', lol.


Later man

Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

But i guess your going to have to look for a Realtor who can hook ya up with a good grow space. I can see it on the sign outside the house for sale ''great grow space'', lol.

Already handled

Here's another few pics I meant to put up last time. These are one day after the previous pics so day 16. Not a whole lot to say here except everything is going well, looks good to me. I'm excited to see what these strains turn into, I have neither smoked or grown them before so it's going to be like christmas in July for me this year On with the budshots (early as they may be)