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Apr-14-2007, 14:50
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hydroponic systems
just need to know which system is better.Im thinking of buying that Large Four Plant Kit with Pump from ez hydro .com.just wondering if that system is worth the money and will be good enough for the the entire growth
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Apr-14-2007, 16:19
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You should have 5 gallons per plant. With that setup they will be way to crowded. You would prob get the same yield from 1 than you would from 4 in that set up. Build your own its cheaper and its pretty easy.
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Apr-14-2007, 16:37
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Apr-14-2007, 17:21
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just look at whats there and get it lol, a air pump some tube, some air stones, 2 3-5gal buckets and u have a system. Cut holes for the net pots, u can add in a valve like that one has, but it would be more work
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Apr-15-2007, 02:49
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Listen to latewood and make your own. Spend the money on a good big light. Hortilux or sunmaster. That's what brings in the buds. Systems a cheap and easy to build.
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Apr-15-2007, 12:00
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Apr-15-2007, 15:21
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Right, Dnutz.
bubblers, DWC. I really like my drip but put an air stone in the drip bucket and you got hybrid, even better. I have always seen problems with ebb and flow. Many like NFT and do well. Nutrient film techniqs. sorry for spelling. Just get the big light and plenty of air flow in and out. Maybe AC to keep water temps down and dehumidifier if your RH is above 40 percent for flowering. It make a diff.
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Apr-16-2007, 01:50
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The worlds first continuous plant feeding system, Bubbleponics is a hybrid design that takes the best from both worlds of the bubbler and drip systems. Since the nutrient mix is highly oxygenated, Bubbleponics converts its drip function to a constant feed flow directly to the inner roots. Without needing to take breaks to allow the root base to drain and absorb oxygen, plants in the Bubbleponic system are able to deliver unparalleled growth energy. latewood,are they just trying to add something to throw me off by saying it takes the best of both worlds when its just an bubbler
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Apr-16-2007, 13:42
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They are full of crap. The description is not totally off base, but that is someone trying to capitalize on the hydro-boom...copying systems designed by expert DIY growers on forums like this. This is not by any stretch...The 1st machine to provide nutrients to plant all the time...Geeez what a crock!
OK. 1st you have a bubbler=deep water culture, roots suspended into nutrient solution with an airstone supplying the oxygen 2nd drip unit=recirculating drip or, drip to waste. Pump is placed in rez and plumbed to driplines that provide nutrients from through top of plant ~via~ netpot 3rd aeroponics=you have an aero system=sprinklers of any sort...plumbed to a pump, the sprinklers provide nutrients from under the top, and the open tub or channel provide oxygen. So, in hydro you have DWC, DRIP, AERO, and; Not discussed NFT, nutrient film technique=running a consistent film on the bottom of a tray sloped down 1' in 40' run. Ebb & Flow pumping solution to tray for chosen periods of time and then draining to allow oxygen to the root system. usually periods extend until medium is almost dry, then timer turns pump on again. So; It appears they are combining DWC and drip. which would be recirculating DWC ~via~ driplines. Bubbleponics would be if you have sprinkler inside tub...What for??? So; I describe bubbleponics as a slang for bubblers. You have ponics, from bubbles ponically popping provided by airstone in the rez Although all these hybrids are cool, and work. Keep in mind that "ALL" methods work extremely well, all by themselves. In commercial; applications; NFT and DWC are generally used for lettuce and other veggie crops, drip for almost everything else,and aeroponics and ebb and flow are used for rooting...primarily. Hope this helps. Peace
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Apr-16-2007, 14:07
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man!you know your shit.thanks for the great info.just one more question,being that its has the dwc style which means the roots sit in the nutes right?oh sorry ive reread your reply i understand now bubbler is dwc and the roots are submerge in the nute/water which has a water pump built in the resovoir or air pump/air stones design
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Apr-18-2007, 08:40
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"Without needing to take breaks to allow the root base to drain and absorb oxygen, plants in the Bubbleponic system are able to deliver unparalleled growth energy."
That's a crock too. I've kept large mothers in 44 gallon garbage cans with the roots submerged 24/7 oxygenated with an air store/pump. As long as the dissolved oxygen level is above 5ppm (nutes right everything)--------adequate DO. I've also found raising the DO level had little, if any, influence on plant growth. Alaric
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Apr-18-2007, 17:47
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Apr-19-2007, 20:22
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he didn't say anything about taking a break...he is saying DWC is by practice...Submerging the entire rootzone in oygenated water, with nutients.
SO...The though that you had to take a break is a debatable issue, Imo. Personal Choice and experience. After all, that is what is cool about hydro... You can just about grow anyway you want and still produce something decent. do level=Dissolved Oxygen level
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