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Jul-30-2007, 04:04
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need help with drip system
things dont look right but im not sure because this is my first time. please help out and any input would be appriciated. heres some pics of equitment, nutrients and trees. Theres 8 plants all started different times but the 1st 2 are feminized great white shark 3 through 8 are unknown orgin and not feminized. hope to get atleast 3 females out of the 6 unknown. i have them on a 16 hrs light and 7 hrs dark. try to do my best at keeping them at a 5.5 to 6.0 ph level but i dont have the best equitment. being held up by bottle rockit sticks because they were falling over. WHAT DO I DO TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A GOOD YEILD???? is one light enough (compact florecent) view pics to help out thanks .
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Jul-30-2007, 12:12
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Man this is just me, but i HATE GH nutes. I have used them in the past and they sucked ever so much. Try boptanicare if you have any extra money. Other than that the only advice i have for ya at this time would be to get the light a little closer than you have it now. From the length of the stems, it look like the are having to stretch to get the light they need. how close are do you have the light to the tops of the plants? Also be careful with the bottle rocket sticks because they have all kinds of magnesium and sulfur on them, and can cause some nute problems, not for sure if it will, but it could.
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Jul-30-2007, 12:43
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thankx
i moved the lights about 2in from top last night and the leaves are already moved into the light. if i change the nutritions brand will it make a difference or make it worst because i have already started... is one light going to be enough for bloom stage (in two weeks)? thanks for all your help
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Jul-30-2007, 13:15
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I have that exact light and have found (because I didnt have the money to spring for the reflector) that its so centeralized that you will end up with a bunch of dark areas and your plants will constantly be twisting and turning to position them selves to recieve the light. So you should get a bunch of consumer type CFLS (very cheap) and position them all around the plants so you have light evenly distributed. you should at least get 6 26 watt cfls. also those units are fit for a plant each. you're going to run out space QUICK. I have a flood tray that is 2' x 2' that BARELY holds 6 plants.
In my opinion those plants arent going to be ready for bloom in two weeks. Last edited by Oh So Grow So; Jul-30-2007 at 13:18.
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Jul-30-2007, 13:47
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Well, if you want to change brands right now the best advice would be to flush out the GH and then start with the botanicare. But to be honest with you, just stick with the GH for now since you have already bought them, and started using them. As for the lights, Oh So Grow so has it. Just add more lights to get a more even spread on the canopy. Regarding flowering, I would wait until its got at least 4-5 sets on it before inducing flowering. And since your using flow, it might be a little longer than 2 weeks. Sux, i know, but you want it to be worth the wait so do what ever you can to get the best harvest possible. Also you will notice pre flowers once the plant starts to mature more and become ready to flower. When this happens you will be able to see what is male, and what is female.
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Jul-30-2007, 14:45
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about the lights
first here are some pic i moved the light up and will try to keep it at that distance. I dont mind things taking longer i just want it to be worth the effort!
 one pic of my great white shark and its one of the smallest out of all and it was started and up 8 days befor the others, its feminized & this one is what i really want to have a good yeald out of ... so, the lights... are CFL's the long lights or lights for house hold lamps and what kind do they need to be for bloom ?soft white? i dont mind picking up lights i need if the $$ is not to high " Im on a budget" So how many of these lights do i need for the bloom stage?... ..OH the recirculating program!!! is it bad or ok that i didnt get the floralicious plus and the liquid KoolBloom. will i need them?
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Jul-30-2007, 14:56
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this is what it looks like. this is a 26 watt "daylight" which is 6000-6500k <-that indicates color temp (make sure you get daylight for veg) CFL. A lot of people (including me) get these Y socket splitters to maximize output for each socket/cord. you can get all this stuff at wal-mart, home dePOT anywhere basicly.
if you really want to do it right, and still want to do it on the cheap... you need to get non-daylight (2700-3000k) CFLS for bloom. you need at least 250 watts over the tops (you can get 6 42 watt warm CFLS). Last edited by Oh So Grow So; Jul-30-2007 at 15:05.
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Jul-30-2007, 15:37
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Never used any thing to boost flowers besides regular bloom nutes. I have herd they work well if done right, but can mess with the finished products taste. Especially if you fail to flush it all out. Since this is your first grow, I would just try and see if you can make it a successful harvest with out trying to add to much. Over loving a plant will kill it WAY faster then most people think. Also change the light cycle to 18/6, as it will give you faster growth results. The plant really only needs about 6 hrs of dark time to get sufficient root growth. Go out and buy some more lights, like the one that OSGS has posted, and make sure the PH stays in check. Oh yeah, blue/green for veg, and red/orange for flower is the color spectrum's to have for the respective cycles.
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Jul-30-2007, 17:19
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yep thats what you want for veg. for bloom, get the ones with green on the packaging instead of blue. the warm ones dont have any specific wording indicators other than some green instead blue on the packaging.
glad to be of help.
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Jul-30-2007, 17:29
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Buy a couple of the 42w (40-something watt?) and see how much yellower they look. That's what you'll want when you flower. Keep using the 42w's, some of that red light can be good in veg too PC
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Jul-30-2007, 21:41
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Aug-02-2007, 19:08
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It is most likely a lil nute burn. But we either need closer pics and/or your PPM reading to gauge nute strength. I'm not very well versed in hydro and am not gonna pretend to be in this post. Just letting you know what some of the hydro experts here may ask you for when attempting to diagnose your brown spots. Good Luck.
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Aug-02-2007, 20:00
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nice i'll get pics up of my light set up that i just made maybe tonite that top light can get alil closer and u need sum fans running to thickin up them stalks too
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Aug-02-2007, 20:03
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the brown spots may be from spraying the leafs are u doing that?? i learned that too u can't spray down the leafs in the light cause it can burn the leafs i would say that and or nute burn as too if ur spraying the nutes on the leafs if the nutes are to strong they can burn too that way
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Aug-02-2007, 23:50
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I have no way of knowing the ppm maybe if i read the label on the nutes... I just did and didnt find anything on the ppm. The solution may have reached the leaves via the drip ring, it gets the floor wet? One of the plants has had splotchy spots on most of the leaves but the spots are just a lighter green color so I pay it no mind its always been like that. I hope its nothing that can spred to the other plants!! I cant take any better pics till later when i go and turn the lights back on. One more thing every seince I put the lights closer, the plant dosen't hold up the leaves the same, they look droupy?
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Aug-03-2007, 17:35
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over watered hydroponics??
I have a drip system. So the water is always running, how can i make sure i dont over water? Ive reed that it can be good to turn the water on every 2-3 hours for 15-30min. what should i do??? FYI... I put more clay balls on the top so it can help hold the plants up better (I still have not bought a fan yet)
and cuz roots are starting to grow, about a 1/2in up the base of the stock. But now they aren't exposed. So what do i do about the water if thats the problem. They just dont look healthy!!! 
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Aug-03-2007, 17:58
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now here are som pic of the brown spots. The plants are low by the drip ring and i know sometimes water gets on them ( so when the lights are on i can cause burns??) last pic is of the roots growing befor i added more clay to cover them..... .. . . . .2nd to the last pic is a plant that has always looked lik this if someone can tell me y? it has light green spots everywhere!! hey if u double click the pic you will get a bigger pic... to see it better thanks for everyones help
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Aug-03-2007, 20:09
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ok I have the same system. You need to get a regular lamp timer for the air pump. When I fist start I have the timer turn the pump on every 3 hours for 15 mins. No water at night (it's resting time). Have those bulbs as close to the plants as you can without burning them. I also use the same nutes with great results. Just follow the chart on the nutes and you should be good. i've never used a ppm meter and everything is perfect. Maybe i'll post you a pic soon. Hope this helps. BTW did you put a divider in the clay pellets to seperate the plants?
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Aug-04-2007, 10:16
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Wots pH ?
Wots TDS ? Get a fan blowing gently on those plants. Move those lights as close as you can possibly get them. Why 3 plants in one Waterfarm ? Rockwool cube should be covered. You do not want light on the roots. Save yer money, get ya a HPS to flower with. Search Weedhound and Xcrispi posts, they grow some nice crops using the Waterfarms. And, IMHO, two things you must absolutely have to grow 'dro is a TDS meter, and pH tester. But, what do I know  Incorrect pH when growing in hydro means yer plants get zero nutes ! Doesnt matter what nutes you use if the pH is out of whack. Here is a chart for you to take a peek at. Notice the optimum pH for your plants to uptake nutes is ~5.8. Since those Waterfarms have such a small volume of water in them you might need to pH down a few times a day.http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...0&d=1121829312 Growin green, b0nger
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