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heheh, hopefully chilling the water for rooting clones won't be needed, the water temp is supposed to be a tiny bit warm until roots have started to come out.
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Careful with too much warmth though, it'll up the chances of mold greatly. I just bought a little heater for my cloner that automatically keeps the water at 78, which is just perfect for a cloner reservoir. Don't forget there are also aquarium chillers. Try to keep the clones and the reservoir between 76 and 80 for best results.
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Careful with too much warmth though, it'll up the chances of mold greatly. I just bought a little heater for my cloner that automatically keeps the water at 78, which is just perfect for a cloner reservoir. Don't forget there are also aquarium chillers. Try to keep the clones and the reservoir between 76 and 80 for best results.
I thought I needed the temps to be 68-70 degrees?? My water now is at 76 and is never higher than 80. I dont have any mold/mildew or fungus growing, but every once in a while the roots brown a lil. Using 3 tsp. grow big to every gallon of water.

gonna try the frozen bottle trick and hope it works out.


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Opie's right....clones you want a little higher then larger plants with water temp.

Opie...did you buy that little heater at Foster and Smith? I use those automatic ones for my aquarium and love them.
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Bozo i like the dip and grow for a rooting thing that Stinky talks about and i've definitely had the best luck with that.

Opie mentioned something about the rooting "gels" sort of sealing out the moisture in the cut end and I think so too. The dip and grow is water based and soaks right into your cutting. You may want to try it for your clones.
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thanks Weed, irie, Opie and GreenD

thank you all for your encouragement and comments, criticisms too.
the truth is Weed, i'm not using ANY rooting hormones although i have a jar of Rootech gel that i used when i was rooting in rockwool starter cubes.
and i know it's too soon to tell yet but the new cloner i built has been doing awesome, got 17 of 18 rooted with the first run! cloner has a 2 gal res into which i put 10ml of ThriveAlive red and 2 drops of Superthrive. i also got some Hygrozyme (thanks for the tip Opie) and i'm adding about 2ml of that too.
i'd welcome any advice on the Hygrozyme and it's usage.
it looks like i'll finally be able to start to flower for sex within a week.
could use some advice regarding strains and seedbanks, i want to spend some of my 'economic stimulus' money on some quality genetics for my next grow. i figure it's poetic that the federal gov will be financing my meds for the future. LOL

anyway, i'm rambling so, toke amongst yourselves

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Man.....I think the cloner and the babies look great..its not what they are made of but how they work.....right? ...thanks a lot for stopping by.....everything looks great...
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the key is to understand the principles, then you just apply the principles using whatever raw materials come to hand. LOL, ghetto engineering.
i think i'm at that place where i understand well enough to be dangerous, LOL

anyway, i hope to begin flowering for sex within the week so look for some pics of my DIY air scrubber as soon as i get a door set in place (lol, gonna use cardboard and velcro)

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Velcro! yeah that's the stuff I always forget about. I just gotta remember it for when I can get around to building a little stealth cardboard growbox.

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a little update

well, i'm almost at that day when i can begin sexing my plants and i can't wait. i now have 6 with multiple clones and 4 more in the process of root development (lol, i hope)

here are some pics of my new lights (lol, i bought them a month ago, just now installing them cause i didn't need them. i bought them to flower with).

i figure, with 8x40watts (6x2700K and 2x6500K) that gives me 320watts over 2 bins, i hope that will do the job, lol

check out the price of those fixtures! i got them at a local discount builders supply that sells a lot of close-outs and over-stocks.

that's 2 fixtures for less than $10.00 plus 8 splitters that i think i paid $1.50 each at Walmart!

that breaks down to approx. $11.00 per fixture. way cheaper than adding clamp lights, one at a time and for anywhere from $5.00 to $10.00 each. the clamp lights i already have (i have 6) i'll use for mommas and supplimental side lighting.


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I could never find those fixtures locally and at that price I would have bought a ton of them. Cover the entire ceiling of my cab with those fixtures and just run cfls instead of HPS. As long as you got 50+watts per square foot to flower you will be all good, but I like to use 60+watts for cfls.

Good luck with the sexing, hope you get all girls.

any new plant pics?


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thanks irie...

and here's a few more pics for ya, although i must say, until i start flowering (hopefully within a week), there won't be much new to show.

anyway, the pics

1) if you look close, in the back you can see some of the remaining donor plants (they've since been chopped to make room), if you look really close, you can see how badly neglegted they look (i killed 7 donors with my neglect)
in front on top of the beer box is my cloner (17 of 18 rooted in the first run, i wish i had built one sooner) and to the left is one of the regular bins being used as a cloner (fortunately, they seem to be working ok).

2) another shot of the cloner with some of the rooted clones removed and transplanted

3) my new airpump, dual diaphragm, supposed to have enough power to aerate 16 water farms.

pics 3, 4 and 5 also show that all the donors are gone now. they also show how i'm planning to position things for flowering which will become more apparent within the next week, hopefully

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LOL, yeah, you gotta love his willingness...

to admit that, if LEO wants ya, a disclaimer aint gonna save ya

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Velcro! yeah that's the stuff I always forget about. I just gotta remember it for when I can get around to building a little stealth cardboard growbox.

and holy crap I never noticed Opie's signature until just now!


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Nice photo's all is looking good, but the proof in the pudding so good luck man.
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thanks GT...

and you're right, the proof is in the pudding.

God willing and the creek don't rise, i'll be makin' some puddin' come this time next week. LOL

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I've probably asked this several times but what strain are they?
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good morning weed...

sadly, thier lineage is unknown, just 2 different strains of bagbeans
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you're right there Weedhound...

and it isn't a total unknown, my first grow was with one of these strains and it was better than what i've been buying.
i have to say that i really enjoyed growing it too.
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just a question....how often do you change out the water?? or how long do the nutrients actually last in the water?? we actually have the same setup. we only have 4 plants with 2 60watt and 1 40watt.

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I love watching the CFL grows.

Good luck to ya on your harvest, I can't wait to see how you do.

I read about a guy who's using some of the really big CFLs - have you thought of that for your grow?
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Originally Posted by italian04 View Post
just a question....how often do you change out the water?? or how long do the nutrients actually last in the water?? we actually have the same setup. we only have 4 plants with 2 60watt and 1 40watt.

you should check the FAQ's and thread's in the hydroponics section, and check with ClosetDWC, his name alone should tell you he know's about these set-ups.

the thing with me is, even though things have been going really well, everything i'm doing is for the first time, i really am a newbie myself.

with my limited experience, i would suggest you change your res at a minimum of every 2 weeks. obviously, the more often you change your res, the more nutes you will go through but, by doing so you reduce your risk for problems. nutrient lock-out in particular is something that can be prevented in large part by regularly changing your res.

good luck with your own grow, you should start a log for people to view, then, if you have problems, people can more readily help you.

that being said, bake on
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