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Weedhound · #1 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 09:53

Ok so I was at my hydro store yesterday and the BRAIN pulls out this kit from GH that makes your w/f set recirculating!! Ordinarily this isn't very exciting news EXCEPT......

Get ready.......

It uses an air pump and drip ring set up to move the water through the system. You do NOT NEED A WATER PUMP!

Let me repeat that part:

YOU DO NOT NEED A WATER PUMP. IT RUNS OFF A BASIC AIR PUMP.

I bought one yesterday and already love it. It cost $60 and came with 2 drill bits, grommets, air pump, drip ring set up (minus drip ring) and tubing......basically everything you need except the drill itself.

The largest amount of work is drilling the holes to create a "daisy chain" effect in the w/fs. Everything else only takes a minute to set up.

Spread the news!!!!!

PS...tried to get some info on the web but couldn't find any.....my hydro man is always on the cutting edge....

justanotherbozo · #2 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 15:27

look forward to hearing more about it! have you a name? maybe we can ALL start lookin' for info.

Weedhound · #3 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 19:55

Its called the GH waterfarm 8 Pack Circulating Upgrade Kit and I can't even find mention of it on their website. The thing is....you can get all the parts and make one without buying the kit.

I need some damn photos though....and can't find ANY info.

GreenLeaf420 · #4 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Its called the GH waterfarm 8 Pack Circulating Upgrade Kit and I can't even find mention of it on their website. The thing is....you can get all the parts and make one without buying the kit.

I need some damn photos though....and can't find ANY info.

LOL I'll help out WH

GreenLeaf420 · #5 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 22:37

Hey WH I put up the Drip ring and a pic of the 8 pack hope it helps out...

:jointsmil e:

Weedhound · #6 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 22:46

ok.....see that drip ring thing? minus the drip ring? the little two tube dealie....let me find a pic

Ok this thing......you need to set it up INSIDE your lower rez so that your basic air pump (just a small cheapie not the big monster you see in GL's photo) so that it pulls the water in from one side of the rez and dumps it the lower container. At the same time the other side is refilling.....very hard to explain without the damn kit.....can't believe i cant find any info....

GreenLeaf420 · #7 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 23:40

Sorry WH just trying to help out... I know the cheap $40.00 Pump right?

Weedhound · #8 (**permalink**) May-17-2008, 23:54

No thats fine but I honestly think a monster pump would be too strong and cause issues.

See when we discussed recirculating the waterfarms the big issue was how strong of a water pump to use to prevent overflow since the entire gravity refill thing is so slow. You cant use something faster than the refill time right? That's why a cheapie 10 gallon fishtank aquarium pump is so perfect......small pump so keep things moving nice and slow which is HUGE when trying to move water along through all those buckets.

Capice?

Seriously the principal behind is exactly the same as the drip ring. You know how the air pump forces water up through the drip ring? Well it does the same thing inside the rez if you hook it up to an intake tube on your rez (then a seperate outtake tube to refill modules.) It pulls a bit of water in the rez from the inlet line and forces it up and into the rez. The suction created refills it from the other side.

It's quite brilliant really and I wish I could explain it better. We're modifying my other res tomorrow so we'll try and take some photos as we go to try and explain it more clearly.

GreenDestiny · #9 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 00:40

Interesting method. It's definitely something I'd love to see drawn in a cheapo MS Paint diagram to show just how it works lol. Can't wait to learn more info about it.

slothy · #10 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 07:25

iv been looking to mod my waterfarm system to do exactly this. I too would like to see some more info so I could custom mod it myself. (still kinda confused on how it works)

justanotherbozo · #11 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 08:30

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Seriously the principal behind is exactly the same as the drip ring. You know how the air pump forces water up through the drip ring? Well it does the same thing inside the rez if you hook it up to an intake tube on your rez (then a seperate outtake tube to refill modules.) It pulls a bit of water in the rez from the inlet line and forces it up and into the rez. The suction created refills it from the other side.

It's quite brilliant really and I wish I could explain it better. We're modifying my other res tomorrow so we'll try and take some photos as we go to try and explain it more clearly.

LOL, there's the rub for me WH, i've had so many other issues and principles to learn, i've had to prioritize. unfortunately, that was a principle i put on the back burner.
i figured if i couldn't get them to grow, and i couldn't get them to clone, well, i didn't need to learn how to drip on them. LOL
anyway, it looks like this has the interest of others also so i'm sure we will have all the info we need soon.

bozo,
peace, love, dope

Weedhound · #12 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 12:54

Bozo you think I understand this stuff? I go to the hydro store and say "what should I do?" and the BRAIN says "this" and hands me something.....I go do it.....nice plants grow.

I STILL can't tell you much about lighting and spectrums beyond what the best to use is and the VERY basics of why so don't stress.....its a learn as you go thing.

SnSstealth · #13 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 12:56

very interesting.....maybe even enough to convince this dirty boy of getting wet.........shhhhhhhh
whiskeytango

Weedhound · #14 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 13:03

Stealth we could set you up with something really simple to start.....like a hempy....you'd even get to water it LOL. I think you'd do very well at it with some practice.

justanotherbozo · #15 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Bozo you think I understand this stuff? I go to the hydro store and say "what should I do?" and the BRAIN says "this" and hands me something.....I go do it.....nice plants grow.

I STILL can't tell you much about lighting and spectrums beyond what the best to use is and the VERY basics of why so don't stress.....its a learn as you go thing.

sigh, sadly, i'm poor enough that i am forced to learn the principles so i can come up with a makeshift alternative, 'on the cheap', lol

and Stealth, i'm only on my second grow, the first was in dirt, but i love the hydro way, lol, don't think i'll ever go back (with the possible exception of outdoors)
hydro rather than dirt, coupled with CFL rather than MV = 4 times the growth with the same seed stock.

i think i'm ready now to throw down on some quality genetics

so, toke amongst yourselves

bozo,
peace, love, dope

justanotherbozo · #16 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 13:17

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

I think you'd do very well at it with some practice.

i'm with you all the way on that WH!

shit, i'd say you both have proven your ability's, if you can do what you've already done, you can do hydro even better!

so, again, toke amongst yourselves, lol

bozo,
peace, love, dope

Weedhound · #17 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:00

So we just went and built one in about 10 minutes and I took some photos. Hopefully these will make better sense than all my babble.

In the first two pics....the system set up unside the LOWER rez. This is the actual "piece" that GH sent with the kit. Second photo is the GH picture of the kit itself.

Weedhound · #18 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:06

Here is what you will need in the first photo. Keep in mind these are only the parts to work on the resevoir....not the modules themselves. The modules themselves will need their own grommets and plastic extensions, tubing etc....

Second pic: Good extra parts to have around. The drill bits pictured there came with the kit but I used my own unibit to do all the drilling. The correct size bit for 1/2" holes (using 1/2" grommets btw...those are what are in the picture) is 13/16 fyi.

Weedhound · #19 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:15

Oh and Bozo......hps instead of cfl.....4 times the yield for the same time, energy and nutes on your part. Worth every penny.

GreenLeaf420 · #20 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:15

Hey WH

You have everyone's wheel's spinning. Exactly what we were discussing. The WF buckets everyone seems to agree is an issue I'm so surprised they have not Tried to make a repair Kit.... Who needs them when you have the Weed Hound on your side....

Great THREAD

Weedhound · #21 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:22

So here is the real brains of the whole operation and I could just KISS GH for thinking this up. It's a pumping column set up inside the rez that pulls the air in from the intake valve you set up and into the general rez.

We made one by adding an inch of 1/2 in tubing and an L extension to the bottom of the pumping column.....then cut the larger white tube down to approximately six inches (high enough to be above water level but low enough to stay inside the bucket) but we left the airline completely intact.

The third photo is a close up of both the one we made and the one that came with the GH kit.

justanotherbozo · #22 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:30

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Oh and Bozo......hps instead of cfl.....4 times the yield for the same time, energy and nutes on your part. Worth every penny.

my use of CFL's is more a function of my ability to add lighting for $10.00 and my inability to throw down $200.00 - $300.00 all at once, rather than an actual preference for fluoro's.

believe me, if i had the dough, i'd be using 6 of those Procyon 100 LED lights. (LOL, and some CFL's for vegging)

kudo's to whiskeytango and doughboy for thier pioneering work!

bozo,
peace, love, dope

Weedhound · #23 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:35

We didn't really feel the need to take pictures of this figuring everyone would be able to handle it by themselves but here are some photos of rez with 3 holes (and stop valves) in it and the bucket we are circulating with the system. In this case we're only using one but just imagine it as 8 of them all daisy chained together because the priniciple is exactly the same no matter what.

TIP: Buy those 1/2 inch stop valves in bulk.....you'll thank me later.

Afterthought: After drilling a third hole in the res it occurred to us that you really only need two of them (strictly speaking...an intake line and an outtake line) and the lower rez DOES come with two holes already. If you want to keep an eye on the water level you'll need 3 but can GET BY with the two already there.

Weedhound · #24 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:36

PS....the power plant has improved quite a bit and is doing very well in a recirculating system. Plants just grow better with it generally imo.

justanotherbozo · #25 (**permalink**) May-18-2008, 14:54

i'm still just dealing with my DWC bins individually, once i get my plants sexed and i begin production, then will be time enough to really understand how to make a recirculating system.

in truth, i plan on a SOG using 4x5gallon bins with buds in differing stages of flower so, wouldn't that mean different feeding schedules?

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