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My new grow :)

Ok so I thought I would start a thread monitoring my new grow. They are still babies with just seedling feed right now but I decided to try out the gh flora series nutes... was using floranova series but I remember getting a better yield off the gh flora series nutes. Anyhow... as time goes on I will be wanting some helpful hints in ways to improve my yield. I am using a 400 watt hps light for this with a 3x3 hydrohut mini 170 cfm fan with an elf carbon filter.
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Nice and super clean! I personally would use 5 if you can. In a dice pattern. That will really make best use of the light and also if possible move the air pump outside that will pump in cooler air.
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Thanks! I forgot to mention that they are about a week old right now. They grow so damn fast in a hydroponic setup though. In about 4 weeks they will be ready to bloom for sure. I don't have the money for another waterfarm right now but if I get at least one female I'm happy. Its for me, not for everyone else . If I moved the air pumps outside the tent, I would have to buy all new air tubing because of the fact that they have been cut to a certain length. My tent never gets hotter than 85 degrees. The fan seems to suck enough air in through the floor vents to keep the temperature down. Plus our central air conditioner does a great job of keeping the temps down especially in that room. More pics to come!

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consider turning your rez into a recirculating wf.....if you think they grow well now.....
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GH WATERFARM USERS: SIMPLE RECIRCULATING SYSTEM

Don't know if you've seen this thread but you can set the system up easily and cheaply. Your plants will LOVE the recirculating part and grow a bit better for it.

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GH WATERFARM USERS: SIMPLE RECIRCULATING SYSTEM

Don't know if you've seen this thread but you can set the system up easily and cheaply. Your plants will LOVE the recirculating part and grow a bit better for it.

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I have to ask... wtf is a recirculating kit and why would I need it? I don't even have a controller.. I top off each farm when needed. Please explain the benefits versus what I have going already. I am just using 4 individual waterfarms not 8. thanks for info ahead of time.
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No controller? Well no recirculating for you then!! Just carry on the way you are going.

The reason for recirculating the nute solution throughout the system is to keep all the waterfarms numbers more even and balanced without the ph and ppm jumps you get in each individual w/f. GH talks about how you can adjust ph etc just from your controller but as you have found there can be large changes between each w/f so keeping tabs on the numbers from the controller alone isn't really practical unless the system recirculates. Also water that is moving around also picks up more oxygen which translates to happier plants as well.
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Here is a set of pics I took today... growing rapidly!
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Not too worried about the oxygen since I have an air pump for each res. Plus its not hard to keep on top of four systems. Maybe when I do 8. lol
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That's what you say now.......

Wait until they are larger and in bloom. I actually do a recirculating system even just for one plant.

But your way will work fine as long as you stay on top of your numbers and amounts and dont let them get rootbound in those red buckets which is kind of common. So keep an eye out for that as well.

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anything I can do about algae growing on the hydroton.. I usually just wash it off when I do my weekly nute flush and change.
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That stuff CAN cause issues if it gets thick enough......I didn't have algae problems with hydroton but I don't use it anymore.

For algae there are a couple things you can do.....either cover your medium to block the light (you can use a plastic plate turned upside down and cut in half OR add hydrogen peroxide at 2 teaspoons per gallon every other day. Using H202 carries its own issues so look into it first.....it's much easier to cover the medium but make sure you allow for air flow and breathing room between your cover and the medium and drip rings.

PS...There is no such thing as too much oxygen in your solution.
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Here is a newer progress pic so far. The back left corner plant is taking off like a mother. I'm suspecting this one to be a male.... possibly.
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Everything looks good. WH is spot on though about recirculating, you simply need a controller and to recirculate. You are going to have a hell of a time in full bloom topping your water off and also something no one mentioned, individually checking your pH and ppm. You dont need to buy GHs controller either, it can just be a 5 gal bucket or something.
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the point of the recirculating system is so that all the plants get the same nut solution, water lvl, ph and you can control everything from 1 res instead of checking up on the 4 individually. I think is mainly a time and maintenance saver. At least that is what I think i understand about it. If they are different strains you'd probably like to fine tune the individual WF's in case some are growing faster than others and what not. I have tried to learn some about the system even though Im just growing 1 plant from a feminized seed in a WF.
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yep, that is pretty much it, and it allows you to have a good supply of nutes and not have to change out as often.
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Yeah I know what you mean about the bloom phase... I had to top those bitches off before when my last batch went into bloom. I usually had to top off about a gallon a day per farm. I usually will add 1 gallon to each one and also add one full dropper of ph down to each gallon added. I got the right touch for the ph levels here in my area. Seems that 1 dropperfull of ph down works for each gallon. I may look into getting a controller but for now I will have to do it the not-so-easy way. I usually have no issue doing it this way so far. thanks for the input and more pics to come as it goes. So Herbie, maybe you can direct me on how to set up a recirculator using a 5 gallon bucket? Thanks!

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Okay, this is exactly 2 days later after the last pic post. They seem to be doing well. My only problem is with the back right plant. It is growing way slower than the other 3 but I may need to flush it and up the nutes to early growth feed not sure. I think it has a nitrogen deficiency because the lower 2 leaves are a really light yellow although the new growth is green seems stumped with the grow. Any ideas?
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just as long as the leaves sway a bit.
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O.K. I was able to get that little one to perk up again. I pretty much flushed out all my plants (since it was time anyhow) and gave them a higher nute dose and the little one's leaves literally have grown slightly bigger in just a matter of 9 hours. I think there must have been some kind of nute lockout that occurred this time. Oh well... I just carefully and cautiously flushed its hydroton extra well and then mixed up a whole new nute solution. I also visited the local hydro shop yesterday and picked up some kool bloom (might I add that this will be my first attempt to use a bloom booster) and I must say that I'm very excited to see what this will do for me when the time to bloom comes . More pics to come as I go along.
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Are you completely flushing your hydroton after every nute change or just the ones where you change the dosage?

Im looking forward to hearing/seeing the difference you have by using the kool bloom. I almost bought some but didnt because I didnt want to make this first hydro grow too complicated.
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Are you completely flushing your hydroton after every nute change or just the ones where you change the dosage?

Im looking forward to hearing/seeing the difference you have by using the kool bloom. I almost bought some but didnt because I didnt want to make this first hydro grow too complicated.
I change the nutes weekly to avoid any nutrient imbalance and to help keep plant waste and salt buildup from occurring in the hydroton. I flush the hydroton completely. I used one of those water shower heads that you can disconnect and use as a sprayer to spray through the hydroton and to rinse my buckets. I usually rinse the hydroton for about 15 seconds each time I flush to make sure all salts and plant waste are flushed out.

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just as long as the leaves sway a bit.
Does the fan help the plant's branches become stronger?
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Yes! What happens is as the branches sway it creates small tears in the stems and branches. The plant repairs itself and then some so that it can take the "punishment" the next time. Its pretty much like when you lift weights. Same principal. Small tears are made in the muscles and when it repairs itself you become stronger.
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