i want to know how to build a ebb and flow step by step the cheap way like home cheap o and blows way with pvc piping can u help me and if so can u give pics lmk

so no one can help me i want to get parts for home depot and lowes can some one help me with a parts list for my ebb and flow

forget the PVC pipe.
Get a 4x8 sheet of plywood and cut it into 2 4x4 squares. Put one aside for building a dawghouse.
Get 16lf of 2x6 lumber, cut into 4 foot lengths.
Buy a box of coated drywall screws- the 1-3/4" ones- and a CORDED power drill if you don't have one already, or if your cordless is wussy.
Buy a 6x6 sheet of heavy rubber pond liner.
Assemble the above into a leach tray. I'm sure you can figure this one out.

Now, since you are going to have to go to the hydro shop anyway, start making your parts list. You have your tray, which you could have bought for about $100 and probably paid at least that in parts and labor for. Now you need your drain set. There will be a fill fitting and an overflow fitting. They each require a 1 1/4" hole (depending on type you get) and work best sunk into a depression in your leach tray. Since you built one from Home DePOT parts, it's probably not going to have that depression, and will therefore not drain all that great, but HD is all ya got so c'est la vie. Add a hole saw to your list so you can cut those holes.
Now you need a reservoir. For a 4x4 tray, you want 40 gallons. Possibility: A rubbermaid tote. Problem: Lack of rigidity. Solution #1: Buy more lumber and build a stiffening structure to hold it. 40 gallons of water weighs over 300 pounds, so build it strong. Solution #2: Go to the hydro shop and buy a thick-walled rigid 40 gallon reservoir with a nice cover.
You also need a pump. Pond and hydro pumps for that size rig are going to run you from $15-$40 depending on brand and gpm.
Now you need media. 2- 50# bags of hydroton will be adequate for a containerized grow on that table. You MUST go containerized if you aren't assured of proper drainage, because you WILL have troubles with water pooling at the bottom of the tray.

I am going to very strongly recommend that if this is your first hydro grow, to buy a small (2x4 or 3x3) leach tray and 25 gal res, appropriate for a HPS400, and test your your skills. You can build a system at home depot but since you are asking for a step-by-step on it I'm going to guess that you haven't yet acquired the knowledge to do it totally from scratch and make it work.

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well im new to growing and i know theres many hydro systems and the ebb and flow looks easy for a first time grower i have the light for the setup im looking for some in site on the ebb and flow lmk

If you don't want to do the carpentry..... for the first ebb and flow, buy yourself one of those under the bed plastic storage boxes. They are about 2 ft by 3 ft and about 6 inches high. A perfect tray for about 12 bucks, or if that's not enough, get two of them. Then buy a 30 gal storage box, plastic bin or whatever its called. place your tray on top, drill two holes into the bottom of the tray one for the pump and one for your adjustable drain.

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thanks for the info what would i use for a sealer for the drains i dont want it to leck on me

you really don't need any sealer. you are pumping the nutes up from the reservoir thu the tray, if there is any leakage, it will just drip back into the rez.

If you buy a correct drain-set, a soft rubber gasket is included.
You can't get around a hole saw for this either- it will give you the perfectly round opening you need for the gasket to seat.

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I use one of these. 11 Plant System with great success. cost me about $15 minus the soda bottles.

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nice i like looks easy to set up and do u have any real pics of the setup would like to see one and thanks for all the info

Would this system fit in a 3X3 grow space? Such as the hydrohut mini? I'm quite interested in building this setup possibly.

I grow this way with good results this what I did...

I bought a under bed tote box 30"Lx16"Wx7"H it was a transparent blue color it fit's about 12.5 gal. , a dark colored 18 gal. rubbermaid tote, a 3/4" and
1/2" ebb and flow drains w/ plenty of extentions and 2 screen tops, some net pots, 3/4" and 1/2" tubing...I'm using a eco-plus 185 gph pump... get a timer and some black and gloss white PLASTIC spray paint and we're ready to get building...

with the lid on the under bed box drill with a hole saw the size of the net pot your using.. GO EASY SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWW I found this out the hard way CRACK...I find this system to work great for a sog grow w/ clones... for larger plants from seed place alot less plants per gro tub or go recirc. DWC

once youve drilled your holes remove the lid and flip the tub upside down to drill a hole on each end for the fill and drain lines, when your done drilling all your holes remove the burrs with sand paper... now we are ready for paint..

spray the black paint on the lid and tub do it in thin coats letting the paint dry in between, also be sure to tape off the holes in the botom of the tub so no paint gets inside of the tub... when the tub and lid are both complety black spray over the black with the gloss white paint to cover all the black, dark inside for the roots and reflective on the outside.. just be sure to let the paint dry completly before putting this into service...

I built a small table just large enough to fit the tub and tall enough to fit the reservoir directly underneath... drill the holes in the table for the tubing for the fill and drain lines...

install the fill and drain fittings to the bottom of your tub then connect the tubing. thread the tubing thru the holes in table the
1/2" tube goes to the pump in th res, the 3/4" tube is the drain for the tub which goes strait down into the res...

inside the tub connect the extentions onto the drain side as high as you want the water level and top it with the screen the fill side just gets the screen no extention... plug the pump into your timer and your redy to go..

I didn't use any air stones in the res which will change on the next grow.. I'm also thinking about putting some air stones or one of those flexible air diffusers in into the tub and set the air pump for the tub and water pump on the same timer, I dunno still expirementing... would like to do a recirc. dwc for some bigguns' still recearching and planning that build, as I tinker with this ebb n flow deisgn...

hope this was a help I know it sucks reading alot of crap but I'm a writer by nature and some times I just can't stop myself from going on and on...

later D

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I looked at that system and looks pretty cool and fun to make, but how do you keep the roots from plugging up the 1/2" hole in the caps? I wouldnt think it would take long for it to become a problem. Cut the roots?