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Ok. So, I want a hydro system where I can use a tupperware container, grow 8 plants at a time I have the BC 3 part system of nutrients. I also have some super thrive.

I plan on getting a 10 in deep tupperware container that is 3 feet long approximately.
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a 2 port air pump I already have one airpump I've been using in an unsuccessful attempt in the aerogarden.
3 12 or 14 in (the largest that will fit) in the container airstones,
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getting 3 inch pots.

What am I missing? Is the container deep enough? Will the roots get tangled? Should I get a water pump too?

Do I need any other nutes besides the 3 part BC system? Their feeding schedule online says you need like 12 things, do you really? Or is the three part system enough?

I want to make a system that will work the first time. My aerogarden experiment has left me with 8 seeds, so if this doesn't produce, I have to reorder seeds and have nothing to show for my last order.

I plan on getting as many pieces and parts as I can from lowes, the rest from a hydro store that is a bit of a drive from here but isn't too far away. Please, be nice in your criticism but tell me every little place I could do better so I can make the best system possible. Please please help me out on this one. I want to start building soon. My birthday gift certificate from lowes should be in the mail tomorrow.
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I'm no expert by any means. However, one thing I can offer is that when you buy your tupperware container, make sure it's light proof. You don't want bacteria and algae growing in your resevoir water. A layer of Duct Tape around the container should do the trick if it's not already dark enough.

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The container is already dark blue so there should be no problem on this part. Can you think of anything else I'm missing? I'll give you rep if I can
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I should also note that my seeds are autoflowering white dwarf. I wasn't ready to deal with the control of strict light schedules and such and wanted to make life as easy as possible for myself. So the seeds are autoflowering. The lighting is cfl.
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You got rep anyway, so there . Any other feedback you have is more than welcome. I really want to get this right on the first try. I'm not playing with bag seed and so far my aerogarden has killed two plants and tried to kill two more. I don't want to spend a bunch of money and repeat the disapointment.
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I also have a kit with ph measurement and ph up and down
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Ok. So, I want a hydro system where I can use a tupperware container, grow 8 plants at a time I have the BC 3 part system of nutrients. I also have some super thrive.

I plan on getting a 10 in deep tupperware container that is 3 feet long approximately.
Hydrotron media,
rockwool seed starters,
a 2 port air pump I already have one airpump I've been using in an unsuccessful attempt in the aerogarden.
3 12 or 14 in (the largest that will fit) in the container airstones,
and
getting 3 inch pots.

What am I missing? Is the container deep enough? Will the roots get tangled? Should I get a water pump too?

Do I need any other nutes besides the 3 part BC system? Their feeding schedule online says you need like 12 things, do you really? Or is the three part system enough?

I want to make a system that will work the first time. My aerogarden experiment has left me with 8 seeds, so if this doesn't produce, I have to reorder seeds and have nothing to show for my last order.

I plan on getting as many pieces and parts as I can from lowes, the rest from a hydro store that is a bit of a drive from here but isn't too far away. Please, be nice in your criticism but tell me every little place I could do better so I can make the best system possible. Please please help me out on this one. I want to start building soon. My birthday gift certificate from lowes should be in the mail tomorrow.
DWC is pretty fun. you might want to get a pump to pump out your reservoir when it needs to be changed. I've read that people get good results with the BC 3 part nutrient system, but I use FF 6 part nutrient system and have been having great results. Im pretty sure that's everything your going to need as far as construction wise. Just do your research and make sure your careful with your ladies... take care of them and come harvest time they will take care of you.
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I'll be glad to make it till harvest time That would be a success at this point. I don't know the abbreviation of the nutes you use. What are they?
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I'll be glad to make it till harvest time That would be a success at this point. I don't know the abbreviation of the nutes you use. What are they?
Fox Farm, I got a DWC bucket going right now. I'm a newb at growing but if you wanna scope it out for ideas feel free. Just click on the link in my signature and it will take you to the thread
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Does anyone else have any tips? I expect my gift certificate in the mail today or tomorrow and I'd like to be ready to start when it arrives. Happy Birthday To Me
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Sounds like your ready. We run 10 gallon strilite tubs from wally world. but I think your tubs are deep enough for autoflower as they will not get very big roots. The PH will be what you want to look out for and take into consideration the color of the water and nutes together, it will throw your test color off just alittle but nothing you can't deal with. A meter is nice butonly when you can afford it. A TDS meter would help but you don't have to have it. Follow the mix on your nutes and watch for leaf tip burn.If they burn just back off the nutes or add more PH water to dilute.
As far as clf's get as many as you can as close as you can. The bigger the light the bigger the buds.

What kind of water ? I know people on here say you can use chlorine tap water but this is what happens to me. I can use just one gallon tap to 5 gallons R/O and my plants turn yellow and die. I tried all tap water and watched them fall over as the water hit the roots. Maybe your problem with the areogarden.

We have been using R/O water and cal-mag plus this time and things are looking great.

When you cut the holes in the tubs becareful and try it on some scrap to make the fit. Some use and tin can just the right size and heat it with a torch and we use a 2 and 7/8 hole saw for 3 inch netpots. You can get a 3 inch hole saw from lowes but some cheap netpots fall through the hole.
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You might want to consider buying a ph meter. I'm growing hydro now and I'm constantly adjusting ph. Thinking back when I had to rely on liquid testers makes my ph meter a valuable tool.
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We have been using R/O water and cal-mag plus this time and things are looking great.
I use tap water run through a brita pitcher and kept at luke warm overnight. Gets the calcium and other stuff out. When I've used tap water straight I've had crud on my aerogarden.
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You might want to consider buying a ph meter. I'm growing hydro now and I'm constantly adjusting ph. Thinking back when I had to rely on liquid testers makes my ph meter a valuable tool.
Definately something to consider when I have expendable income. Right now I'll have to settle for the cheaper stuf.
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Sounds like your ready. We run 10 gallon strilite tubs from wally world. but I think your tubs are deep enough for autoflower as they will not get very big roots. The PH will be what you want to look out for and take into consideration the color of the water and nutes together, it will throw your test color off just alittle but nothing you can't deal with.
I'm Using The BC series nutes. Can someone tell me whether this is a three part series or not? On the website they want you to use everything they make, but that doesn't seem right. I've seen several feeding schedules. Can I have some professional advice here?
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Sounds just like GH nutes. You don't need all the add ons.
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I use tap water run through a brita pitcher and kept at luke warm overnight. Gets the calcium and other stuff out. When I've used tap water straight I've had crud on my aerogarden.
Straight tap water may have done the Aero in. You will need a bigger filter or R/O system. The britta helps a little but you need much more clean water now.

There are 2 types of chlorine. One evaperates into gas and the 2 is a solid, so you can't get it all with just a small filter. Not to mention floride and salt that's put in to make it soft.

If you can find nice well water that would help. My bro has perfect well water. He is soo cheap he doesn't even add nutes for most of the veg time. He needs it during flower but by the time he sees white hairs he's smoking and can't understand why he can't finish. LOL
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If you want water with NO nutrients in it at all, buy RO water or a home filtration system. Home RO filtration systems are kind of expensive and very wasteful. You can buy a reliable home set up with a monthly maintanence charge, but if you can find bottled RO water in large quantities, go that route because home system installation usually requires a monthly mechanic to come and change filters and whatnot.

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does it matter that regular tap water did wonderfully when growing from their kits?
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Just wondering what type of lighting are you using? I am starting out my first hydoponics system it is a bubbleonic. I think i too have everything set and ready but i feel like im missing somthing. Is yours in a grow hut or closet? do you have ventilation and fans? I have well water and was told its better than tap what kind of water are u using? I am going to use stealth hydro fire,grow and bloom nuterants and i am using 2 100 watt cfls and 2 led 54 watts blue & red lights. I have not planted yet because i not sure if im ready. I also have a pump in mine that constanly feeds my girls 24/7. Is that how your is set up?
mine holds six plants. my temp is 75 and 65% humidity. What do you keep yours at? I dont think i am missing anything any help would be great.
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does it matter that regular tap water did wonderfully when growing from their kits?
If your tap water does good for you then use it. I guess it's one of those try and see things. Some do very well with tap water. Some have a salt build up and that's in part because of nutes too. You will know when you get close to finishing how the buildup effects your stuff.
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Just wondering what type of lighting are you using? I am starting out my first hydoponics system it is a bubbleonic.
Right now I'm using the lights that come with the aerogarden plus some cfl's on the side. My new system will use cfl and flourecents.
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