are you fucking kidding...This information is in this grow log.

This information is in this grow log. To humor you I will fill this out. But, I swear to god that if I hear that cal mag is the solution to this problem, like it seems to be the answer for everything on this forum...I am going to fucking leave this forum because I will be a firm believer that this forum is run by the company that makes calmag solution.

(takes a long deep bong rip)...sorry guys. Back to business. I felt a little tense...now back to business!

What is your experience level? Been a part of tons of guerilla and backyard outdoor grows.

What type of hydro set-up are you running? Drip system to rockwohl cubes.

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. T5 four bulb...2 hot and 2 cool bulbs.
B) Distance from tops? I am about 3-4 inches from the tops
C) Reflector type? Reflector came on the light
D) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 18/6 light cycle...wattage is about 350 watts
E) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? yes...two oscilating fans...an exhaust fan.
F) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? yes...already answered this redundant question
G) Size of reservoir? 5 gallon

Your nutrients and water:
H) Source of water. (tap or filtered) Ph of water is 5...distilled water from store.
I) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. one feed every day for 15 minutes, nutes being used are 3 part GH system. 1.5ml-1.5ml-1.5ml


J) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water? no idea
K) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution? no idea
L) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (reservoir high and low temps) temp at 74 degrees
M) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? do not have a ppm checker.
N) Does the ph fluctuate? no...stable 5.8
O) Do you foliar feed? no
P) How often do you replace reservoir water/nutes? every week

Your growroom:
Q) What size of closet, room or hut? 4x6 veg room...in a larger 10x7 room
R) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? temps runs around 76 degrees while lights are on humidity is at 50-53%....Lights off is about 70-72 degrees 48-50% humidity
S) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? got rid of the gnat problem. Have not seen anything in days!
T) Are the roots long and white, or brown and slimy? white...and starting to come through the bottom of the rockwohl.

Your strain:
U) What strain are you growing? Citral
V) From seeds or clones? Seeds
W) Is this an autoflower strain? Yes

LMAO!!! Well being that you ARE using distilled water, you really DO need Cal-Mag....Butttt to me it just looks like a bit of nute burn. They are too young to be receiving nutrients. Then again I'm not a hydro grower, so not really sure when nutes should be introduced to young seedlings as those.

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christ...I knew it. Paranoia setting in and the walls are closing in
Cal mag solutions does, in fact, own this forum!

Now can someone with some hydro experience please tell me what this is on my leaves!

well its not nute burn since the prob was there b4 nutes started, its not Cal-mag as you have been using that from the start. I would give it a day or 2 and see what the GH 3part does for ya.

I see the drip stake right at the plant. How wet are the rapid rooter plugs and rockwool. Maybe that. Might want to direct the drip away from the plant a bit. rockwool can be tricky when watering but didn't you say only one water time a day. HMMMM. They don't look that bad but it does look like nute burn somewhat.

So I found the issue...those plants were not rooting properly. Rooting out of the rapid rotter was non-existent. 8 plants are doing fine, their roots made it through to the bottom and they are already outside of the rockwohl.

I am wondering now that the roots have gon through the bottm of the rockwohl, if I should put them in a hydrotron medium?

I removed the plastic wrapping from around the rockwohl, I was starting to believe I was over-watering. I even thought that perhaps the plastic wrapping was not getting enough oxygen to the roots. But, the cube was light and it was bone dry in the middle. Water was the issue, just a lack of it. I put the plants on 2 watering cycles per day.

Nutes and Ph are perfect. I had to toss the plants that were not doing hot into the humdity dome, and put them under 3x120 watt CFL bulbs in my clone room. I want them to root better before they go into the rockwohl. I am sure most of you will agree with this decision.

I have my strongest 8 little girls under my t5 light in the main veg room. They all have extensive rooting outside of the rockwohl cubes. I am very happy with them so far and I am positive they are going to be sexy little bitches!

I have also decided to buy some clones to work out any issues I might have with my flowering setup before the little girls get into the stage that I can take cuttings from them. I think this is a wise move to make sure I do not have any issues with the setup prior to heavy use.

Also, my white widow showed up. Started their germination last night.

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I have a very similar setup to yours. I'm currently growing six plants in a 4 inch rockwool cube buried in hydroton. They've been vegging for 6 weeks under a 8 t5 bulbs. I would definitely recommend more t5 bulbs if ur space allows it.

glad to hear you got it figured out Marty!!

I want to first start by saying thank you. I had three different issues going on with my grow. Lack of light, lack of water, and the nutrient solution needed to be adjusted.

Adjustments made:

Besides putting the smaller plants back into humidity dome under another set of CFL lights. I began to notice weak root structure in these plants based upon where they were places in my 2x2 tray. I was not feeding them enough water with nutes, and I was also lacking light to a number of the plants.

Major issues solved:

Lack of light (lumens)
Lack of Water
Lack of nutrients

This tri-fecta of problems with kill 80% of your plants. Even the luckiest of growers will be able to keep 2 out of 10 plants.

Plant Status:

You can already see the difference in one day. Of the strongest plants that were showing signs of spotting and minor wilting, are now perfect little girls again. I love the resiliency of this strain...I definitely recommend this strain to first time growers. Just be prepared to have to prop up your seedlings as they are prone to being leggy.

The new growth is strong on all of the plants under the T5 light. Root growth is through the bottom of the rockwohl, and I will be adding hydrotron on Monday. I need to give these roots more oxygen and this is the best way.

Enjoy the pictures I am supplying for you. I think you will all agree that this system is definitely working best so far.

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I am on this already. I just ordered another T5 light with 8 bulbs....should cover this entire veg space with light. 4 cool and 4 warm bulbs. Remember that this is my second veg area. I will only be using this 2x2 tray for mothers. The strongest plants will the the founders of this room. The other females will be flowered...just for the fun of it!

I will also be putting together the flower room shortly so you all can see my new clones go into flower after 1 month veg.

From what I'm seeing you still have your seedling leaves, you should wait until those fall until nutrients are added. The marijuana plant has nutrients stored in those seedling leaves to get it going in the world, once those are gone it then relies on the root system that has established over its seedling phase. So my suggestion would be back off on the nutrients for now and make sure that temperatures are hospitable for your ladies. Good luck bro, happy growin

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According to every website that sells nutrients...You are supposed to add nutrients to seedlings when growing via hydroponics. Advanced nutrients and General Hydroponics both recommend using nutes with seedlings.

CLICK HERE FOR THE GENERAL HYDROPONICS LINK FOR NUTE SCHEDULE...

I don't want to be argumentative...but, I honestly do not think they would say to use nutes if they didn't think it was a good idea. its not like it is enough to make you have to go out to buy more...1.5ml for each gallon is not a big deal!

The funny thing is that with growing...there is always something new to learn and add to your growing system. You can always be expanding and learning more, otherwise we would all still be smoking dirty hippy schwag! Feel me there?

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as I suggested earlier a WEAK mixture for seedlings/clones is acceptabe. If you run 100% nute mixture you will kill them real quick but using 1/8 - 1/4 str is fine. As Marty stated even manufactures give you this info right on the bottle. A drop of ST per gal also will help with root development and growth as this is a vitamin supplement that allows better intake of nutes and such.

Key word "sells". I try to ignore the doses and growing info from the bottles, the simple facts are that ofcourse the manufacturer to the nutrient solution is going to recommend that you use their product as much as possible (means more green for them) and those directions that you read are not specifically for marijuana.

I use these as my source of information for growing:

Marijuana Horticulture medical grower's bible by Jorge Cervantes
High Times Growers Series: Jorge Cervantes' Ultimate Grow DVD 1 & 2
Cannabis.com
Grasscity.com

I'm not trying to be argumentative but those recommended doses and schedules were not created for the marijuana plant. Live, learn and toke

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Jorge Cervantes is indeed a great man, but he is mainly a guerilla grower. Not to mention, that with my experience in outdoor or soil growing, I would totally agree with you and not use any nutrients in this stage of growth because the soils are filled with nutrients.

But, with indoor hydro, it seems that people are split over this theory in the different publications. I think it goes to your personal prefrences here. I personally saw my girls do much better in terms of growth with a 1/8th nite cycle and then the 1/5 I have them on now. I am sure over time we will all experiment and find what works best with each strain. As, I am sure we have all learned that all strains are totally different than the next.

I will experiment to find the best growth and yield of my plants until I find my personal "right nute mixture" as I am sure everyone does.

In the end, I believe we are all correct as long as we are able to stinky, sticky high potencey ganja, with the best possible yield for our efforts. It was not too long ago that hydroponics wad first introduced. There will always be advancements, and we all should learn from everyone and incorporate it into our growing regiment. Whether it be scrogging or nute schedules, we can always find new ways to make fat sacks and mighty fine hash!

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Hey support, nice grow there buddy. Those bitches look sexy. I will watch your progress there for sure. U should net over a pound for sure. Wish there was a smellernet so I could drool over the aroma. How is the smell so far, and are u using a carbon filter to keep it under control?

you are correct about the cotyledon containing nutes. i've however seen big, mature plants with them still on and as green as ever. some say this is a way to judge the health of your plants.


feeding nutes to seedlings in hydro is fine, as some of you have said.

correct me if i'm wrong about the nutes, but it is either general hydroponics or advanced nutrients that ARE formulated specifically for cannabis? i know it's one or the other.


-shake

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advanced nutrients is what your thinking of. I'm not that advanced though haha. I use the FF 6 part nutrient system and attempt to tailor the ppm's to the needs of my women. I really like FF because of its organic properties and also because it breaks down so well for organic ferts. still learning haha.

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Thanks man, and yes I am using a 6inch goblin carbon filter for the aroma... it smells great man. I've never even seen, heard or smoked BlueHog or Groman... but from the looks of it, it will be worth the wait.

Blueberry X Hogsbreath = yum

Romulan X Shaman X Grapefruit =

YouTube Video

haha, thanks for the complement. Looking forward to seeing some fat nugzzz on your grow to bro

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are you talking about the liquids and the soluble powders? if so, isn't the only one of those that is organic is the big bloom?


-shake

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"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

yes I am, and the big bloom from what I understand is the only one that is both organic and natural. The others have organic materials in them but they have chemicals in order for the organic materials to break down more efficiently. One of the problems that I read about organic fertz is that they break down much slower and are less efficient then the non organic, the non-organic has all of the nutrients made available instantly. As for the organics it is supposed to break down at a slower rate and makes it hard to accurately read the ppm's. As I've stated before I am still learning, but that is what I have come to understand.
BigBloom = worm castings, bat poop... cant really remember, but to sumarize; yes, technichally the only fully organic fert is the big bloom.

You may correct me if I'm wrong.

p.s. not sure if the soluble powders are organic at all, can't remember :/

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you are right, big bloom is the only organic. the solubles are not. probably not even close.

not trying to jack your thread marty. what's up on some pics?


-shake

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"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Headshake, I am starting to think you are into seedling porn. LMAO!

So, not much going on today. Here is the progress so far, tomorrow, the plants are going in hydrotron...This is necessary! Enjoy the pictures!

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i appreciate plants in general marty, thank you very much! i enjoy looking at peoples setups and stuff just as much. i like to see how others think, get ideas etc etc.

the plants look like they are coming around nicely. glad you have gotten a grip on your woes.


-shake

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence