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Sep-29-2005, 19:01
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New to Hydro... How are they looking?
Not sure how they are supposed to look 20 days in... so tell me how they're doing?
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Sep-30-2005, 00:29
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Oh sorry... 20 days into vegetative stage...
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Sep-30-2005, 00:33
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Did you start from seed?
You may need to increase your nutrients and your light.. notice how light green , almost yellow your leaves are.. that's a sign If it is 20 days in.. and they were clones, we have a problem!! nice first grow.. congrats!!!!
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Sep-30-2005, 00:51
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more nutes... ok... and closer to the light? Do u see in the second pic how they have spots... on www.overgrow.com they show a pic like that and says it's due to burns from the light... what do you think? I have them on a 18/6 cycle... and yes... from seeds... should i just try more nutes first and see if they get greener?
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Sep-30-2005, 01:22
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What kind of light are you using?
Do you have a fan..? You need a small fan.. just to keep the air moving between the lights and the tops of the plants... Air flow should be good enough that you can bring HID lights within a couple inches of the tops of your plants. If you are using fluorescents you can bring them within 1/2 inch.. just keep the air moving.. even if it is a very very subtle movement.. Do you know what your ppm or ph is? You definitley need to get a ph tester if you are growing hydro... http://www.plantitearth.com/store/pr...d=304&catid=65 or go big and get http://www.plantitearth.com/store/pr...id=73&catid=65 very smart investment!!!
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Sep-30-2005, 04:40
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Yes I have a fan directly on the light... here I'll find a pic of the whole setup... I have the plants about 3 feet away from the light. (I just tested my pH.) Wow... it was incredibly high around 8 if not higher... I added pH Down and got it around 6-6.5. I don't know my ppm, what do I need to find that out. I'll take more pics in the morning... but I also noticed that the tips are browning... what's that mean? {{Pic is not up to date setup, but shows how the light and fan are setup}} Thanks for all the help!
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Sep-30-2005, 08:39
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Ok, Absolut,
Here's the thing::: We're all getting mis-understanded... When Garden Known tells you that you need a fan on the light, it isn't "on the light", it's actually a fan pointing towards the top of the leaves... So the hot-spots/hot air on top of the leaves/buds, etc. circulates and the plant doesn't burn. I suggest you leave your current fan where it is (pointing towards the light) and get another fan blowing on the plants themselves.... The air flow towards the plants also helps them produce stronger stems. Keep us updated  -turtle420 
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Sep-30-2005, 17:38
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Oh.... I see... aight... how far above the leaves should the light be? I thought the fan needed to cool off the light... didn't know the plants needed to benefit... excellent info... thanks a lot. Lemme make changes and take pics...
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Oct-01-2005, 00:44
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Ok I added a fan that you can't see that is blowing on them lightly... and lowered the light. Is the light too low? Also... take a look at the pic of how I have this hydro-watering system setup... I used to have this water flow on 24/7... now I changed it to 15 mins on, 15 mins off... should I leave it at that? My fan is also on that timer and the light is still on 18/6. Within a couple hours of the light being lowered I noticed that some of the sets of leaves... completly turned... one of them turned sideways... is this because it's trying to find the best fit for the direct light? (Can't notice the turned leaves in these pics) But take a look at the pics anyway and let me know how u think they're doin... thanks a lot.
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Oct-01-2005, 01:06
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Here's an up to date pic with everything done... any other suggestions? [And check out my homemade cloner... that's pretty dank all by itself!]
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Oct-01-2005, 08:16
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Absolut,
Light looks good... Also, the fan gets an A+... As to the leaves turning, I can't comment on that. I have no idea/experience. Dude, you've got so much freaking space!!! Your next grow, make something bigger! Inside my grow space, if I fart, I'll blow a wall out.  Best, -turtle420 PS: Nice looking plants!
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Oct-01-2005, 20:44
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Hahaha... I'll show you what I had planned... it's the 11 plant ebb and flow system w/ a 315 gph pump with custom framing for perfect water balance... all built to 100% perfection... it's a real eye-opener... and thanks a lot for all the advice... I'll get more pics up... they are starting to look much better already! (Check back later tnite for more pics, the center leaf sets have opened already and another is on its way! Interesting how the sets on the left plant are all 7s and the plant on the right has all 5s...?!?!) Thanks again for all the help turtle and all you other shmoketeers!
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Oct-01-2005, 21:45
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2 q's 1...what is the wattage of your light?
2...is that your nute solution under your plants in that aquarium? If so, then you need to cover all that up with black tape 2-3 x's or something to keep the light out or else you will grow algae, algae kills roots lights cause algae...get it? in dwc there is to be no light allowed in the res, or... see above here is how you find out how close to get your light...you acclimate the plants to light.which you have. Then you lower the light 6 inches a day monitoring the leaves reaction...until you have light (this depends on the wattage of your lamp) 6-12 inches from canopy, without burning the leaf tips...if you get to the point that you notice the leaf tips drying and pointing up or the tips brown, don't panic, just move the light back 3-6 inches and monitor leaves reaction...as the canopy rises you raise the light keeping it at the same distance throuhout your grow... for fans you need a small oscillating fan 24/7 on your plants to strengthen their stalks.. and a stationary fan directed across the top of the canopy and under the light, blowing the heat away...this will allow you to place your light closer than you could believe, but be careful. If you don't pay attention you will burn some tips. when I see your reply, I will advise you further if you like...
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Oct-01-2005, 22:07
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Chronic,
Ideally you should have that light only a couple inches from the tops of your plants.. Put you hand where the tops of the plants are.. and lower the light until your hand feels uncomfortable.. With proper airflow you should beable to bring a 400watt hid within an inch or two ofthe tops of your plants.. This is the most important thing you can do.. From the looks of your plants and the light you have.. you need to FLOWER NOW!! Thanks for letting us help.. its fun to watch your system evolve. There is a lot you can do but it is very very important to keep that light close.. it will drastically effect your BUDS
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Oct-01-2005, 22:08
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please post current pic of your plants
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Oct-02-2005, 05:32
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Wow... thanks for all the help and comments... I'm currently working out all the best solution but here's what the look like upon request... thanks again!!!
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Oct-03-2005, 01:59
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looks to me like u just need to cut those brown leaves off
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Oct-03-2005, 16:40
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Santa that's what I was thinking but I read somewhere not to because they also hold a small amount of nutrients that wouldn't hurt to keep attached. When should I start flowering?
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Oct-03-2005, 17:20
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chronic...bro.. good news..
Your color is better nodes are closer bad news.. not good enough, here's what you do.. chop the tops off and make a couple clones.. bring the light right on FUCKING TOP of your recently cloned plants..(NOT the CLONES) keep the fan blowing.... let the plants grow for 5-7 days (after you clone them and then FLOWER.. 12 hour light.. 12 hours dark.. try to get 4 clones at least!!!
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Oct-03-2005, 18:13
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Garden Knowm... ok... I also have good news and bad news...
Bad News:: Parents are flippin' @#$% because they never thought it would actually work out and grow... so they don't like the idea of my plants in their basement. Badder News:: They will rip them out if they see any more attempts to grow anything else. Good News:: I can grow these two for now until I get my cabinet setup goin' and growin'. Overall:: I can't take the chance of cloning them right now because I can't push my 'rents to the edge. So work with me on this... let's try to get these two green beauties bloomed. Here's up to date pics at day 24. I am in the process of changing the resevoir and setup a little because like somebody mentioned before... algae is starting to grow in the bottom of the tank... and that's never good. Anyway... let me know what you think my next move should be. Thanks for the help again, and ya... I know it's a bummer cloning isn't a possibility... I even have the setup for it too. Damn! Oh one more thing... I have 2 fluorescent bulbs at 30W each, should I set these up under the 'canopy'? Would these be more beneficial?
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Oct-03-2005, 20:31
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latewood... job accomplished... just put it into a plastic container that i sprayed black... works wonderful... I'll take pics later tnite...
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Oct-04-2005, 00:14
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they are actually starting to look like weed plants..
good JOB!!! I look forward to the pics!!
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