Hi there,

just setting up a decent sized hydro grow room (in the next month) and I have been looking at different strains. Was contemplating using "AVALON" but Mr. Emery (who I was going to get seed stock from) is busy dealing with other "governmental" issues, and I don't think I'll be able to deal with him in the future. I was wondering if there might be another source for this strain, or if someone might have another strain in mind......

I'm looking for what everyone wants..... a high yielding, short grow cycle, potent strain in either the indica or sativa strains.

If anyone has a suggestion I'd love to hear their experiences (positives and negatives about them). I do have Jack Hare and Goo available in clones. They seem to be OK, but don't have any info on the using the hydronics

MUchas Thanks!

They are both fine in Hydro. 99% of the indoor strains grow hydro just fine. Hydroponics is just a system of growing there is no special plants that must use Hydroponics. Pick your favorite and have fun, if you use clones at least you know the sex already and can grow to finish faster.

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Zandor

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I had great results from AK-47 (Serious Seeds), and feminized Grapefruit (Female Seeds.nl) in a hydro grow. AK-47 was a big yielder and easy to cultivate. No growth issues, no nute-burn, deficeincies. I wish I could find the same strain in a female or feminized version. I'm growing Skunk Special feminized right now because I saw some awesome results by another grower on this message board. I too am looking for the ultimate strain (quick yield).

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no I don't work for them, I just live near them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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What was that strain SC I don't have my glasses on and you type face is so small I can hardly read it from a block away.............hehehe

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sorry, I got a little excited

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LoL...

That was funny... Nothing bad with recommending good stuff Stormcooker... and if they live near you... lucky, lucky you.

Thanks for the info!!!!!

Was going to start a hydro operation shortly, and have access to Goo and Jack Hare varieties..... Was wondering about AK47 and SR71 varieties...????? Is the any who can share their expeieinces in the growing of these 2 different strains? I want to know about ease of growing, yields, effects, etc...

Muchas thanks to all who answered my question last posting!

I want to share also my experience of AK47 and skunk special. As for AK47 i disagree StormCooker. AK47 have some phenotypes that are good yielder, yes, but i find it very unstable. Over 5 plants now in last days of life, one is awesome (4 enormous buds), one is interesting ( a dozen of good size buds ), one is a runt ( 4 hugly and little buds ), the last 3 are someting special. Last grow with AK47 i had 4 over 4 different pheno. Any way the high is always the same, very strong. Skunk special is very stable in shape and yield, and quite strong also but less punchy. What i am looking for , now, are very stable strain to grow in SOG. So i made a cross between AK47 and skunk special - AVAILABLE SOON -
Fhydro

Your best bet is to select a good yeilder/ solid grower from a vaiety of strains ..and keep the baddest MO as a clone bearer! Seeds are initialy expensive but one has to think long term...and once you have the baddest bitches on the block..you can keep on pimping them!! ONLY BUY THE BEST GENETICS [check out the latest cannabis cup winners as well as the old veteran strains]

lowryders work wonders on drip systems

Are you sure the phenotype is not from a Polly hybrid cross? What I mean is to make a viable true cross strain takes several years of crossing M to F and back and forth to stabilize the strain. You need to back cross about 10 times or more to grow a predictable stable strain. My guess is you just have a Polly hybrid that has shown it's dark side. I have been growing and crossing several strains for the past 5 years and they are not 100% ready yet. You just can't chuck some pollen on a flower and call it a new strain. (not saying that's what you did, but there are many pollen chucker’s out there that think one pollen cross and you have a new strain)

How l long have you been crossing your strain?
How many back crosses have grown out successfully?

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Zandor, there are 2 things. The "instability" of AK47, that's my opinion, that comes from the differents ancestors of this strain, and that is not my fault, right ? The "strains" i do : I'm not planning to go to cannabis cup in Amsterdam with my new seeds, i just grow my own seeds ( those i get unfornunatly ) to try them and i pollinated a female with a specific pollen and i will test those seeds to try, just to try. When i say "AVAILABLE SOON" it's just to smile and maybe make you smile... For serious grow i buy the seeds because i'm not very good at cloning, not the fact of cloning, but the management of time and room to do it properly. And i will buy certainly BigBud x white widow from female seeds.
Zandor, I'm not a serious breeder, right ?
Fhydro

And i add that some commercial breeders don't spend much time to stabilize their strains before selling them. I read strain base from overgrow and about Jack Herer for instance, one say that you have to grow 15 seeds to have the right Jack Herer phenotype, the one with which they wan the cannabis cup, the same for the HOG. So what i look for when i buy a strain is the stability. If i buy some big tomato seeds and i get some big ones and some cherry tomatoes, i will claim. My crosses are only for fun. Do you follow me?
Fhydro

Yes I understand you.
Now you also see my point too. I could not have said it better my self dude thanks. Way to may rip off breeders out there ripping off people and that just drives me crazy.

AK 47 F1 is a very stable strain by it's self. It's very old and has been grown for many years. The problem is when people try to do crosses with an F3 version or from a breeder who is ripping them off and his stock is tainted. Thus he makes you look bad (well not you but the person who bought the seeds to breed.)

Enjoy making a cross it's a lot of fun and exciting to do. Somewhere I have some text written on making crosses and how to stabilize strains. Email me and I will see if I can find a copy for you.

You did find the topic that pushes my button, my distaste for the pollen chucker..............lol

If you want a copy drop me an email I'll see if I can find it for you. If you want to play with making a true cross it will give you some insight in to the method involved.

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I bought the AK47 seeds directly to serious seeds. I don't know from which stock, the ultimate one i suppose because the seeds popped in less than 24h, and i don't know if they are F1 F2 or F3.
Fhydro

From serious seeds they should have been F1 for sure dude.

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