|
|
|
|||||||
| Hydroponics Share methods of growing without soil. |
|
|
|
 |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
Nov-25-2006, 16:16
|
||||
|
||||
|
I think shes dying
Well outa 4 only one is showing signs of nute burn... there alll bag seed, now i increased my nutes a couple days ago from 800 to 1000 and the 3 took off but the one has leaves that are curling down and in like a canoe, i have about a week left of flowering before there done, im gonna cut nutes in about 6 days and feed em plain water for a couple days. this is wack
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED 
|
| Cannabis Links |
|
Legal Bud | Rolling Papers | Herbal Smoke | Herbal Vaporizer Scales & Accessories | Cheap Vaporizers | Seeds Cannabis
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 18:35
|
||||
|
||||
|
changed out my res water, hope this helps. Im loosing all my fan leaves. There is no way i shoul dbe getting nute burn at 850ppm while 6 weeks into flowering.... at least the other 3 are doin good. i started using liquid karma could this be the problem?
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 19:11
|
||||
|
||||
|
I've never had a problem like that with liquid karma. Only one plant is doing it? How weird. 850 doesn't sound like too much to me---I had problems with my plants having not enough nutes at that strengthin flowering. That's so weird....only one.....
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 19:36
|
||||
|
||||
|
remote resevior, there is no other water but that, the water is pumped to the net pots and then recirculated constantly, ppm pen just bought it.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 19:42
|
||||
|
||||
|
Always a good idea Mr E, cover all the bases...hope you figure it out Jack. Was the one plant looking normal before you increased nutes or sort of sickly at that stage as well? What are your trichomes looking like at this stage?
Last edited by Weedhound; Nov-25-2006 at 19:44.
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 19:42
|
||||
|
||||
|
the other plants are lovvin it. lol so incredibly wierd the others are thrivin, and this one looks like its had enough. its got the ram horn effect going on def. looks like nute burn 100% happend over the course of 1 day and sympotms are geting worse node branches are being effected too. the plant is almost done and im thankful it is happening now and not a couple weeks back. but either way i would like it to be healthy to the end. like i said i changed the res water and im gonna keep an eye out for anything getting worse my water could have been locking out nutes as well. really no way to be sure. I'll update tomorrow with some pics. and news on hows she doin. Everything is in order and on track, its like de-railing a train with a penny.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 19:44
|
||||
|
||||
|
it was normal at first, and i was cutting the nutes back cause i thought she was done but she wasnt, so i added some back and i used a ppm meter for the first time. i had a 600 read out at first look, so i jumped it to 800. then i saw the 3 take off and the 4th wilt.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 19:51
|
|||
|
|||
|
Is there any way to sort of lift it up and give it a spray on the roots with plain water maybe after it floods (would that dilute the dose it receives)? Hell I dont know honestly. The plant could simply be storing more internally than the others so it's burning it some/more. Is the leaf mass about the same? Root mass? Assume so. It could be natural and it seems like all else is equal.
And again just so it's asked, you did calibrate the pen first? They definitely need it right out of the box. My meter did anyway, it was super far off when brand new.
|
|
Nov-25-2006, 20:44
|
||||
|
||||
|
its off by 60 i think
damn it was off by at least 180 directions said it was factory calibrated, i figured it would be off but not by that much. my ppm is 980... though it was arounf 800
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 03:29
|
||||
|
||||
|
lights dont go on until tom. spent time trying to fix it, wasnt thinkin about pics. i will put some up.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 16:20
|
||||
|
||||
|
ok the first three are of the sick one and the last one is of his neighbor whos doing really good.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
Last edited by JackdaWack; Nov-26-2006 at 16:24.
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 18:06
|
||||
|
||||
|
Dude what happened???!! Your last one does look very nice to me but I don't have a single idea on your sick baby. Hope latewood or somebody with a better eye can help you. I'll check back and see....good luck
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 18:41
|
||||
|
||||
|
arrgg so fustrating, im pullin hair. How do i get a good ppm reading every time i check it it changes. and im checking it often. i give the res a nice stir but i can still see a diference in ppm from different spots in the res. Also i can see undisolved particles in my water and i put 2 air hoses in there with a pump to keep the water turning.... if i didnt it would all settle at the bottom. i use organic bitonicare products. this is so wierd i put some fresh water in to lower ppm and it stays the same. I checked the calibration on the pen its ok.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 19:36
|
|||
|
|||
|
Wow I wish I knew
 I topped up my small system with a half gallon a little while ago and PPM went down by 10. It's only around 8 gallons total, and I was at 560, now 550 after putting in the half gallon of plain.Maybe you can pump out a couple of gallons and replace? I would certainly think you would see a drop anyway.
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 19:49
|
||||
|
||||
|
im taking out a half gallon at a time and replacing with fresh water. my well water is at 200ppm which is ok. and im sitting at 730 right now, seems stable and my water no longer has particles in it. i think my problem might have been undesolved nutes sitting at the bottom of the res. still doesnt account for only one being effected maybe the strain requeres low ppms.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-26-2006, 20:55
|
||||
|
||||
|
I'm guessing your roots are all white and healthy looking underneath? I'm really having trouble believing that even being off by 100ppm or something would drop that plant like that. You have the waterfarms right? Can you block the one off seperately and perhaps get some distilled water to try? I;m just throwing things out here because I really have no clue....those curled twisty leaves.....???
Last edited by Weedhound; Nov-26-2006 at 21:00.
|
|
Nov-27-2006, 01:37
|
||||
|
||||
|
no its a home made system with rubber maids. but still.. its all properly set up.
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-27-2006, 02:26
|
||||
|
||||
|
Are you sitting down? Just kiidding...well live and learn. I will try and help you figure out what is going wrong, but 1st.
You say you are doing rubbermaid and everything is done right...Well explain it to me please? You say you nutrient ppm readings are low enough not to have problems...clearly you have problems. So, we need to start form info/scratch...OK? ppm/ec meter...make/model?_________________ tap or distilled/ro water?____________________ what ph is water before nutes?_________________ ph meter...make/model?____________________ ph after nutes mixed?________________________ how do you adjust your ph?_____________________ what kind of nutes are you using?___________________ how do you mix you solution?___________________ what additives?____________________ are you growing in a box...a closet....a room?_________________ what kind of lights?___________________ location of ballast?_____________________ exhaust/ac?_______________________ room temps?_____________ canopy area temps?_______________ answer these for me and maybe we will find something. peace later Last edited by latewood; Nov-27-2006 at 02:28.
|
|
Nov-27-2006, 03:02
|
||||
|
||||
|
ok, 2 rubbermaids which both drain into a res, top feed system netpots with hyrdoton. The drippers run all the time as the root just hang.
sunleaves tds meter not sure model Well water 220ppm i use a ph standard water kit(not elec.) ph is about 7.5 before anything never checked ph after nutes add, i just ph it to 5.8 i use ph down from the store Pure blend pro bloom and liquid karma i just put in ussually half recomended and stir liquid karma closet 4x8 (4x3 actually grow space) 400wtt hps balast is in the room exhaust 465cfm blower+carbon filter room temps 80/68 85
__________________
I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that your not allowed to have an opinion. - George Carlin We don't have rights, it's just that simple. The best way to accomplish anything is through education. Smoke WEEED
|
|
Nov-27-2006, 09:59
|
||||
|
||||
|
Wow...sounds good. temps you want to try and get into low 70's in flower. It looks like toxic salt build-up???despite all the measures you took...I am kind of stumped. Heat can also contribute to those problems...what is humidity in closet?
best thing I can advise is flush completely. perhaps you can get them back on track, but from the looks of them, the damage is done. I would consider flushing and taking the most damaged plants and harvesting them. leave the healthy one/s to finish. I use the exact system (partially, I have so many different systems)(right now I am vegging in this type of drip system and transfer to bubblers for flowering) and you shouldn't have any problems with this. Anyway goodluck and let me know what you decide to do>>>When you start again...we will go from scratch. peace
|
|
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
|
|
|
Linear Mode
