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This is what I run and you've seen the results. For flower i use 20-40-240 for my 10 gallon res, thats why I told you I use about 2 gallons of flower to each gallon of micro and gro. Also I add the kool bloom at flower and Liquid Karma to the clones feeding.
On a side note I'm just about to bottle that beer.
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Latewood may now be found running hygronomics . com, which is a great resource for those of us who aim to produce our own food and live in ecological balance. While canncom is no longer his home, he and Zandor made this grow area what it is today and I've re-stuck this excellent thread because it is so valuable as a starting point for a grower looking to expand his knowledge into the water... It's good reading for all of us.
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yeah man, my order of GH nutes came in today. i'll be doing a res change as soon as i get out of work. If you have a few free moments you should swing thru and see what's happening.
i have a few fun tales to tell you. About the beer, let me know when you are gonna bottle that shit up. If you need a hand or want some company i have nothing happening after lights out (7:00 pm). sweet deal. thanks bud. "Skeet" |
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Hey guys would you mind taking the beer talk elsewhere? Not a topic for this site. Thanks.
I'm going to be going through and cleaning up this thread to make it more approachable pretty seen.
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Sorry bout the beer. I'll get back to the topic at hand.
So i got my GH 3 part Nutes today. Did a full res change on both veg and flower. Everything seems cool except for my PPMs and i'm still learning what that's all about and how to control it. on my veg side: i use 9 gallons of water, so i ph'd my tap water to 5.8 and then added the 1-1-1 (72-72-72ml) to the water like i'm sure i'm supposed to. I checked the PPM and just plain water was roughly 180ppm. then when i added the nutes, it jumped up to 1100ppm. That seems high for veg to me, but i'm following the recipe...thoughts? On the flower side i use 10 gallons of water. so i'm in week 3 of flower so i used the .25-1-2 (20ml-80ml-160ml) and my PPM is only around 1100...which seems low for flower, but i'm following the recipe...thoughts? also, i have a full bottle of B'Cuzz PK 13-14. I'd like to use it if possible, otherwise it'll just sit around for eternity. Does anyone have any advice on how to straighten out my PPM (if they are in fact wacky!) and any advice on adding the PK 13-14 to this mix would be appreciated as well. thanks and sorry for noobin' on ya'll. Skeet |
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Theres a lot of shit in this thread but later in it latewood explains that for the flower you should use 2-4-24 for flower, which is what I've been doing try this out and see what your ppms are, but as you know I know nothing about ppm readings. I prob won't be able to stop over until the weekend unless you guys are still up around 1am, I'm sure your shit will be fine.
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hmmm...i just read through the entire thread and some more board searching looking for the 2-4-24 reference and couldn't find anything. I did however find some talk about 0-1-3 and LW using hammerhead 9-18 as well as talk of other bloom boosters. That leads me to believe i'll be alright adding in a bit of pk 13-14.
Pete, i've seen your results so i'm not disagreeing with your 2-4-24 suggestion, but i think i'll stick close to what i've read with the addition of the pk 13-14 until i'm comfortable with the process, then i'll see if i can push it a bit more. fun times. thanks all for the info. Skeet. |
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Hmm...i do remember you saying that you used KB. Which do ou use? i did some searching and there are 2 Kool Bloom products...both are from GH, one is 2-45-28 and the other is 0-10-10? I'm thinking the latter is kinda similar to the pk 13/14 (0-13-14) but i'm not sure.
I had some issues with pk13/14 really wacking out my pH. it jump from 5.8 to 6.5 in a matter of seconds and it took me 2 teaspoons of pH down to fix it. rather discouraging. anyways. We'll probably be harvesting the NLxS this coming week. We snipped a little lower bud to sample ahead of time. It was quite nice regardless of the quickdry and lack of curing. i can't wait to see the final product. if you have time you should check them out before they get the ol' hatchet. Later, Skeet |
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now i'm totally confused can someone please clarify.
use 1 1 1 in veg use 1 .5 3 in first half of flower? "or is this the new formula for the last half of flower?" use 0 1 3 in last half of flower? and it goes G M B right? or am i still wrong? |
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1-1-1 in veg. .25 - 1 - 2 - first half of flower 1 - .5 - 3 - second half of flower. the idea is to give higher P and K and less N. especially towards the end...many suggest cutting N out completely 7-10 days before you start your flush. Like latewood said, use this as a guideline and adjust as you see fit. hope that helped, Skeet |
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I guess you make sense but 2 of my friends read it & they didnt understand either. I haven't grown in a while because I had failed attempts so I'm looking to do things right very shortly...small grow with 4 plants, 1 hps 400w light, 2 fans, and some CO2 tablets plus all soil/nutes that VapedG13 recommends. Problem is that it's still cold out and heat isn't always constantly on 24/7 but soon...ill be posting grow log w/ pics.
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![]() ![]() I myself have been growing with 3-2-1 then 2-4 with 1=to only 2.5ml (the general hydroponics feed chart cut in half) I was told a long time ago that you don't want to use full strength nutes in dwc because of the constant feeding. I have been lazy and let the ppms get up to 2100 due to water drinking and lack off topoffs, and they never died. My water is about 180ppm, and my total finished ppm in flower is usually around 1000. I think I am going to try this and see how she grows! Last edited by AllforMe; Feb-19-2009 at 09:25. |
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We're you growing in rockwool cubes? Last edited by immortal420; Feb-19-2009 at 16:52. Reason: forgot to subscribe :p |
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WHAT ARE THE P P M ' S!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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TRY IT YOURSELF AND LEARN!!! (and stop using caps...) |
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Just at the end it changed……..
Just before Latewood left he changed his bloom formula to one he liked better. Does anybody know if the change was to replace both halves of the bloom protocol (1st 4 weeks, and 2nd four weeks). Or might he have been referring to only 1 of the two halves.
Thanks, Horsemanrocks
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can someone please direct me to the lucas method? I can't make heads or tails out of this info. |
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Lucas thoughts
Michael……It’s a long one….like 26 pages or something, but there is a lot of info here.
Cannabis-World - Ask Lucas It will definitely answer your ppm questions from your other thread. Lucas gives a much clearer explanation than Latewood……that doesn’t mean that I think his method is better, it might even be the key to understanding Latewood better. I personally had to rewrite Latewood over “in my own language” to create a worksheet that I could work from. If I can find a way to post it here for you I will. If anybody has a list of usable formats for posting here (pics) that would help. I tried to post something in a JPG2 format here recently, and it didn’t go through. For the moment I photographed my worksheets…..maybe it’ll come out clear enough to be helpful. Latewood 001.jpg Latewood 002.jpg Latewood 003.jpg As always…..good luck HMR
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