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Old Dec-06-2006, 21:16
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Ahh help!

Ok so I filled my res for tthe first time with plain bathtub water and I was about to put my seeds in my medium, but i decided to take a quick ppm an pH check. i my ph is like in the 7.5 range and my water is like 165. is this ok or not? im thinking its not.i have a shitload of advanced nutrietns to alter this stuff but i dont know what to do. i dont even think i should be using any nutrients for germination. please help!
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Old Dec-06-2006, 21:24
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Old Dec-06-2006, 21:29
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Lower your PH to about 5.8 and, you're right, you don't need nutrients till the plant is 3-4 weeks old.

And I would sprout the seeds between damp paper towels before placing them in your medium.
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Old Dec-06-2006, 21:42
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ok but how do i lower the ph? i dont have any ph down. is it absolutely necessary for me to germinate with paper towels? im using cococoir and perlite and the cococoir retains water really well. is my water ppm ok?
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Old Dec-06-2006, 21:54
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No it's not necessary, just faster. It will take at most two days for you to see a tap root and this way you don't put any dud seeds in your hydro setup. Plus you don't have to do anything to the water when germinating this way. Plus you don't use up all that water in your res when you don't need it.

For PH down some people use vinegar or some other form of organic acid but I don't recommend it. It's better to go to the local hydro store and get phosophoric acid. It's not expensive.

Don't worry about your water PPM. It won't cause any problems.
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read a book on growing hydroponics, your asking the very basic of questions that are answered in details no one wants to repeat. There are countless threads on all the questions you have and there are in depth detailed growing logs, and how-to's. I would suggest downloading, Growing with Mr. Green, its a very easy step by step video, we are all willing to help newbies who are willing to put in the effort themselves. However asking basic questions we see everyday makes us feel like your abusing the point of the forum.
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Old Dec-07-2006, 00:20
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read a book on growing hydroponics, your asking the very basic of questions that are answered in details no one wants to repeat. There are countless threads on all the questions you have and there are in depth detailed growing logs, and how-to's. I would suggest downloading, Growing with Mr. Green, its a very easy step by step video, we are all willing to help newbies who are willing to put in the effort themselves. However asking basic questions we see everyday makes us feel like your abusing the point of the forum.
ouch!! sometimes there isn't time for research ( i know i started this blind when my husband became lic. in colo) if it wasn't for someone taking the time to answer some of my "stupid ?'s" i think i might be in tears.
when i got more time i searched and asked more ?'s but it was the kind souls that found me and encouraged me who made this all worth while.(me being a newb)
i'm gonna have to go with my grandma and say that no ?'s is stupid it might just take guidance to get the person asking them to the right place.
guide and share any wisdom you have in a kind way, maybe all that is needed is direction.
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Blondie I see your point but I see Jack's also. Here is a sample of a few of the questions I have seen on this forum 1. My seed has been in the soil for 20 hours and has not sprouted. Whats wrong? 2. Had my plant under 12 hour lights for about 2 weeks now. When can I start taking weed off it? You are right when you say there isn't always time to do research but I seem to see a LOT of growers who would rather someone else do their thinking for them and it does get old! Sure everyone has a quick question now and then and no one minds that but when you see several questions in a row with answers that are easily accessible to anyone it becomes obvious who's doing the work and who's not.

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I've searched and read on here for months now, and even so I still come up with questions where I've already read all the threads and there is conflicting answers or still unclear. Also, when it's YOUR plants, it feels good to just ask.

For example, red veins/redness on main stalk. Blotchy rusty spots. Those are a couple of issues I'm studying because I have both of those, and it's everything from too much of this or that nutrient, or nutrient lockout, or nutrient deficiency, or even mold or parasite.. I think I'm going to have to resort to posting pics in the plant problems forum even though there are dozens of threads already..
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How are your plants doing otherwise? Growing? Seem happy or generally sort of blah?
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Well, I have RO water now, and I have only added very small nutrients still and some calmag+ at about half the recommended level. They're still doing ok, and I'm happy anyway since I havent smoked in a very long time so anything is going to be nice.

The newest growth looks nice and green and I'm watching closely for any spots to form on the newest growth. I am hoping that the rusty spots were a problem related to my old hard tap water and will clear up.

If it's some sort of mold or something, then I dont know yet what to do exactly.

It is extremely low humidity in this place until my humidifier arrives. It's only like 28%.. I wont get my MH and HPS system until next week. Hopefully I can nurse them along and flower them and take a clone or two and repeat.
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Blondie I see your point but I see Jack's also. Here is a sample of a few of the questions I have seen on this forum 1. My seed has been in the soil for 20 hours and has not sprouted. Whats wrong? 2. Had my plant under 12 hour lights for about 2 weeks now. When can I start taking weed off it? You are right when you say there isn't always time to do research but I seem to see a LOT of growers who would rather someone else do their thinking for them and it does get old! Sure everyone has a quick question now and then and no one minds that but when you see several questions in a row with answers that are easily accessible to anyone it becomes obvious who's doing the work and who's not.

I shall now climb down off the soapbox and calm down with a joint. Peace.
too true; in essence of both parties, i tell them to do their homework, and post a link so that they may do so... i took me two months to find this site, and even longer before i was linked to a good grow guide. i pass the knowledge every chance i get. so here you go babe, i think your answer lies within these pages...

http://www.marijuanahydro.com/hydroponics.html

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Old Dec-08-2006, 08:57
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kp solves it with her usual benevolent wisdom thank god. Mister E, just guessing but I think your problems probably were related to your old water. RO water plus your CalMag is the way to go. I found that once I did do things according to the way I was directed that everything fell into place beautifully. Every single time I have run into trouble it is because I'm "improving" or changing something (usually trying to get by with....)and not following the directions. This is one of the biggest things I love about hydro as opposed to growing outdoors (I have not tried soil indoors); when I do things EXACTLY the way I was told my plants will grow EXACTLY the way the way I was promised they would. My last harvest (done last week) was 2 and 1/4 oz manicured bud per plant which is plenty for me.

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Mr E if it is mold I have used a product called Serenade garden Disease Control Spray made by Agra Quest that I have had good success with in my outdoor growing--have not had that problem in hydro (cross fingers). It can be used in organic situations if that's what you are working with also. I keep that and some stuff called Dont Bug Me (FoxFarms) around. An extremely wise (although not benevolent like kp) hydo store owner told me if I spray these products on my plants once a week I will not have a problem with mold, fungus or pests. I have not done this religiously because I have not had a problem so far but keep them prominently in the room as voodoo charms.
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Sounds good. I may put these into flower already when my HID gets here and chalk it up to a learning experience in fact. Havent decided. As I say, I dont have access to any smoke at all, and it's been years so it would be something nice regardless to me. Plus I read that this strain I'm growing is best flowered early else it'll grow into a tree.
I think I'm close to having all of the supplies that I need now for several grows in the future..
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k, here goes

Weedhound,
thank you for the enlightenment, i guess i did do some studying before juming in and really wish i had found this site before i did but am very happy that i have it now.
Kindprincess,
hugs and kisses, thank you, thank you for the link
MisterE,
i hope all goes well and you can indulge soon
JackdaWack,
didnt realize how frustrating it could be that not everyone does research and is lookin for the "easy way" Peace
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