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Old Dec-06-2006, 23:50
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Question can't raise my light any more, HELP

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i started flowering on 11-17-06 this is what the girls look like tonight. (think i started flowering to late...but would like to fix the problem.)
the problem i'm having is that i can't raise my light anymore and close the doors. the girls keep growing up and burning the tops. i've talked to a friend who suggested bending the tops down which i've done as much as possible but the stems are so big and thinck that they don't bend real easily without breaking.
i don't want to cut off the tops... but i know that tom. when i wake up the girls will be at the glass and burning.
HELP what should i try next?
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Old Dec-07-2006, 00:41
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You are right not to top them. What I would do is get a piece of screen like chicken wire or something and use it to push the tops down. Get the kind that has about 1 inch squares. Rig it so it stays there tight. In effect you will be constructing a makeshift scrog setup.

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Old Dec-07-2006, 01:10
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hey P,
? this is a "self contained unit" when i get wire is there a specific kind i should look for so as not th mess with the rest of the gr?
i'm thinkin that i can use duct tape (macgyver style) to put it up? will this hurt the inside of the room? is there a better tape?
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Old Dec-07-2006, 01:35
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Ya use duct tape to attach it to the sides of the cab. It won't hurt anything.

No specific kind, just whatever you can get your hands on. Go to your local Home Depot and check out the fencing section. You can use the metal or plastic kind, just get the something with smallish holes in it. Cut it down to the size of your cab. Fit it over top of your plants and gently push down, then attach. It should work alright.
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THANK YOU!! i can't tell u how bummed this has made me. you give hope that it'ss be ok
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screen seems to be your only option. hurry, you still have a week or two of stretching ahead... good luck
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THANK YOU!! i will be doing this in the morn.
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High blondie, first up, give those ladies a trim, small but equal trim.....then start A.S.A.P tieing down thos main branches and only at about a rate of 1 inch every 2-4 hrs downwards.......its time to start SCROG'ing girl.....not in the morning......now!!!!.....now!!!......now!!!.....af ter you do this, then add a wire mesh screen as mentioned above....because you want to help the plant, so do the tieing first, this prepare's the plants for the wire screen..also i would suggest going 3" & above with the wire squares...... peace out and good luck.......keep us updated
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Wow those really took off when you went to flower them! Good luck on getting them to behave
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High blondie, first up, give those ladies a trim, small but equal trim.....then start A.S.A.P tieing down thos main branches and only at about a rate of 1 inch every 2-4 hrs downwards.......its time to start SCROG'ing girl.....not in the morning......now!!!!.....now!!!......now!!!.....af ter you do this, then add a wire mesh screen as mentioned above....because you want to help the plant, so do the tieing first, this prepare's the plants for the wire screen..also i would suggest going 3" & above with the wire squares...... peace out and good luck.......keep us updated
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Thank You Bliss,
do you have any links,to threads, that you would suggest for more scrog'n info. this is going to take more studying on my part but i really would like to get my girls to behave without doin' damage
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hiya,
WH way to close for comfort working on solving that now thnxs
ME they did just take off, when i did research and talked to some of the people i know who have grown in soil they said the claims of the yeild being made were BS well i think the claims are proving true hydro will produce more.
now all i have to do is get them to behave. thnxs
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jay, you're a total trip dude...
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I don't think nit is a good idea to trim at this stage...You are too far into flower and trimming could hermie the "lot" of them.
Get a string trellis at the garden store, and put it over top of them and tie down, or do what I used to do, before I got my grows under control. use big "Nuts"...like nuts and bolts, "Nuts"...and use a twist tie to attach the nut to the top of the plant to weigh it down...Works great, If the top is weighted down your under branches will fatten considerably, good luck.
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Latewood would the nut thing work for this girl?

k ive tied tops down, except the right one, im afraid to break her, and put chicken wire on canopy, will have to drive to the city for access to a green house or garden shop to get trellis LW suggested. here are pics that i took tonight any suggestion would be greatly appreciated
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i love that they are doing so well and as they are in my living room talk to them a lot but will do as you suggest and remind them that this is for the best and the destiny they are to fulfill will be rejoiced
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Well on my last grow...like my 1st, I had a NYCD grow into the horti-...so I bent...Yes! I said, bent/broke the top over, and it grew this gnarly fatass scary cola on the top. If you can handle it...Just bent it over about a foot or so from then top. I will try and find piks...peace. I changed to new computer and don't have my pik software set-up yet...
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Blondie- You are doing a nice job keeping them healthy. With the love and attention you are giving them there is no chance they won't give back to you.

Latewood -I just read Soma's "Organic Marijuana Soma Style" tonight. The dude is really spiritual about his plants and it is crazy but he absolutely advocates and promotes supercropping. One of his only 2 examples in his book talk about growing NYCD and bending it. Are you Sure you are not Soma?
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On T.H.SEEDS video they guy breaks or should i say softens the top branch about 6 to 8 in down fro m the top by squeezeing his pointer finger and thumb together until you it makes a crunching sound then rotateing his fingers and doing it again in the same spot then the top simply fell over he then put a stick in the bucket next to it and tied the head at 90 degree angle the outer part of the stem never was dameged my buddy did the same thing on 4 monster soil plants he did it 3weeks into flowering and got great results the head buds all grew sideways and flurished because of the avalible light i think no stress ever showed and the thing stood back up the next day he tied it down just an input good luck
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I think they call it fim'ing...it does work...I found out when I accidentally broke one of my prettiest plant stems during 1st big grow back in the day...lol
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actually, that's called super cropping... fim ing is when you top 3/4 of the leaf bud at the very top of the plant. you can get up to eight new branches this way, instead of the traditional two...
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