Well thanx alot everyone for the nice comments, i appreciate that , well to fill you guys in, i feed them every third watering with alaska fish fert,grotek's micro,mollasses and alaska morbloom.Other than that, i feed them water between with a bit of lemon juice to lower my ph level of the tap water. 12 on 12 off lights.I had a couple shoots that were getting to tall above the screen so i tied them down seeing as i am hoping for there to be top cola buds all around the screen,in a perfect world anyway hahaha.So i have fimmed these, in veg stage that is, cause i think you were wondering turtle and they are on day 24 of flowering today.I will post some new pics.nothin special yet but......... Thanx again everyone !

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nice bro, please keep up the updates. Im curious to see your yield!!

Hey thanx devil, well here's todays update, buds are starting to form nicely,unfortunately i have a vacation planned for next week and will be gone for a week, i am leaving my best friend in charge but hopefully it will all go well, ive timed it so he has to just give it water i already have put aside and measured.Then they will receive a nutrient feeding when i get back.Jezz they are starting to get stinkier now too, seems as if it's much more stinky than the last batch, which is the same strain.Although it was'nt in the rubbermaid.Won't let me upload my pics today sorry

Pokherking I ask for a truce between us and let the past be forgotten. If your up for answering some of my questions this would be most appreciative. Now I am using the Rubbermaid box idea, I have it all set up and currently growing three NL x AK plants. I have six 32 watt CFL's producing about 12,000 or 13,000 lumens in my two rubbermaid containers. I have had to remove two 32 CFL's from it because of a heat problem. Do I have too many or too little lumens. I also don't understand the heat problem, I have two computer fans one produces 72 cfm, the other produces 25 cfm with the outake being 144 cfm for that area. Can I put up another fan without fucking up the 2:1 ratio?

Truce ???? i did nothing wrong there pal and what you posted was pretty harsh out of the blue and had me pretty mad thats for sure but i brushed it off and forgot about it.....hmmmm....now you want help,,,irony....Well it's pretty funny but i'm not an ass so i will give you whatever help i can.

I would say the amount of light you have is plenty,don't use too many 32 watters, i use different spectrum bulbs for veg and flower which you may know or not ??? cool white or daylight for vegatation stage an warm white for flowering. So i am using 4 23watt bulbs and 2 29 watt bulbs i beleive,if you saw the earlier pictures you could see that i am using a desk fan and it seems to push the air pretty good,although i did have to add a second intake to help the flow, which is what i was going to ask you......what do you have for intake tubes or vents ???? Is good air getting sucked into those or that intake tube ???

This looks pretty sweet man, I'm thinking of building something pretty stealth and this looks like the kinda container I need.. I was gonna try source a pretty beefy computer case (had a perfect one, was a huge server sitting round my shed for years, but just last week my bro gave it away!) but I wouldn't mind trying something like this. I think the two boxes looks safer than the one..

Can I ask, roughly how much are you planning on getting per plant? I wanna start growing (prices here are a joke when you CAN find something) but I don't wanna bother if I'm not gonna be getting atleast an O, per plant if I can..

I've been checking out the Megaman line of Clusterlites, they seem to go up to pretty high wattages, their top dog is like 320w, but it's hard to find what spectrum they are, and how many Lumens they produce. I only wanna use CFL/Flouro's not HPS, because of elecy bill/safety reasons.. Would I be better off using relatively low wattage and plenty of them as opposed to one/two whopper ones? I feel this would give a better spread of light.

Let me know what ya think!

And to re-iterate, whopper looking grow! Can't wait until I'm raising something like this!

Thank for the encouragement and friendly comments mistawes, well to answer ur questions......you can never really judge how much you get from a single plant, too many variables, how much light,what strain,how much stress the plant had,the nutrients, you know what i mean. But an ounce per plant is about right if all goes well i beleive.But...... this is my first grow in the rubbermaid so i have no idea what kind of yield i will have, but if it all goes well i hope to get about 2 ounces or so and i have 3 plants in my totes.I have topped and lst'd these plants as well.As for the lights,i would suggest using more lower wattage bulbs rather than a few high wattage bulbs, more light to spread around,more of an area.I would say stay with cfl's DO NOT put an hps bulb inside the rubbermaid idea, i think it would be a complete fire hazard and you would also have major heat issues in there.Just make sure you have good air circulation,lots of air going out and lots of fresh air getting in.And don't forget to use 2 different spectrum bulbs for the 2 stages of growth, cool white or daylight bulbs for vegatation and warm white for flowering.Good luck ! and let me know if i can help with anything else.

I have for an exhaust fan a 4' inline fan with an attached carbon filter for my intake i have those two computer cooling fans. It sucks pretty good at 144 cfm. Is that important to use cool white for vegetation and warm white for flowering. What is the significance?

adr0510 you may not be getting enough air "out" of ur box due to the carbon filter ?? i'm not sure if thats the case or not ? kinda sounds like it, whats the temps in there ? that you need to know if you wanna know if it's too hot or not.As for the lights,the difference is the spectrum of the bulbs and yes it does make a difference.More on the flowering end of it though, what i mean is, from my experience, which isn't much by the way,you can use both types for vegging but it really seems to make a difference in flowering when you use warm white rather than cool white.I can't get into the specifics of the bulbs themselves, just look it up,it has to do with the heat they put off (Kelvins i beleive)

The temperature is usually around upper 80's to 90 degrees. It could be that my Odor Sok Carbon Air Filter is blocking air too much, it is a good filter but maybe too good. I have to be stealthy and cannot afford to use duct lines to a ventilation shaft. So cool white is what I have I think it gives off a pale white light, while the warm white gives off a more yellowish, less bright light is that correct? I guess I'll go with 5 32's instead might stablize the tempature a bit

here's some pics i took 5 minutes ago

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I probably need to go to the original gro box thread. I just came across it the other day. Are the specs and install of the lights included in there ? Well I guess I'll find out but in case I miss it perhaps a link or something.

Thank you!

Odorsoks aren't rated for a fan that small. You need a real blower to run carbon filtration correctly.

You REALLY need to lay off jacking other peoples' threads. Another warning.

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Well i am back from vacation, well it was actually a really long drive to check out a seed store about 2000 km's away,kind of an adventure......Anyways, my friend has done a great job taking care of my babies and they are doing great, in my eyes anyways.So today is day 36 in flowering.A very resiliant strain thats for sure, it's nice and easy to train and just easy to grow all around, wish i knew where it's "roots" came from.So i picked up some seeds on my venture, i got some "skunk indica", it says it grows nicely at around 3 feet so training it a bit shorter should be no problem.The strain i have now is a sativa and it seems to train nicely even though they normally grow tall, lets just hope this strain is as tough as this one is.Well here's some pics

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wow ! i really have to say those buds have come along really nicely. Do you think you could sent me the design for your superstealth box as i might make one for scrog.

Also may i ask what lights you are using ? (lumens/xxxxkelvin/watts)

Good luck with the harvest mate

I sure do hope your ubds don't swell up more than your screen has space for. :/ Beautiful grow man. I once tried to do te same thing but couldn
t resolve my heat problem for my Rubbermaid. I was determined to have at least 8 42 Watt CFL's in there and I just couldn't keep that kind of heat down. But the problem is resolved now
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Good luck HomeBoy.

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how'd u get the temps down?

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Well here's todays update. nothin special really, buds are a little bigger, it's day 40 in flower for these ladies.Just germinated my new seeds,gonna put them in pots tommorow and find me some females !! well i hope they all grow female really.

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oh you lucky lucky man its like you just won the jackpot

Wow man, that looks great. I saw some rubbermaids at my work that look like that and I was thinking of doing the same thing. I just finished with 2 nice girls in my closet that turned out pretty nice. One gave me .5 oz and the second 1 oz, which I don't think bad for my first grow. But my problem is the closet I use has huge gaps in it and some light gets out, and possibly even in when they are in dark time. So I was thinking to do just what you did, with the expectation of having 2 fair sized females in it. It looks like you have like 30 in yours man. I'm to high to read everything in this thread, but good job man and I'll definitely be trying it out.

Hey thanx, well i only actually have 3 plants in there, the trick to it all is "training" i have used l.s.t. on these ladies....look it up, look back on this thread even.I just used 3 pots cause thats all i could fit.I have also used my whole closet before, and if you have light leaks you gotta get those fixed, i used to put up 2 black sheets with tacks to keep the light out or in .......you know what i mean.Try out the rubbermaid though....it's sweet.



Hey Love2Chief thanx, So i saw you have a little set-up going yourself......If you cover the whole inside with 2 layers of that emergency blanket material it will stop that much light from getting out and when in flowering later on, light from getting in.And you also wanna find a way to not let light get in the vents in the fan you have, but that is down the road.

Ello, Pokherking.. I don't know if you stumbled upon some pics of my improvised rubbermaid set up, but thanks to you it's going quite well. I am going to double back and light proof it a little more by adding another layer of mylar or such. Light is leaking a lot through the fan and a little through the passive intake. Any suggestions?

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Ello jackforest, glad to hear i have influenced you.It seems i have messed up a bit, i thought the thread i was looking at was love2chief's thread but it was actually yours.....oops.. sorry, So it was your rubbermaid i was looking at, so love2chief disregard that last post by me.So jack... you gotta make some sort of shroud for that exhaust fan, i used thick black cardboard paper and made a little shroud for my fan so the air will direct out but not let the light in, have the airflow pointed towards the ground.Keep in mind i keep mine in the closet where it is already fairly dark.As for the passive intake tube, i use dryer vent hose, and if you use the white kind like i did, you can put a heavy dark sock with the toes cut off over the intake tube to prevent light getting in. Anything else i can help with let me know, good luck

im actually done with my grow .timed them so i can smoke on 420 YEY YEY!