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Old May-08-2009, 23:46
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Bad soil there friend. No pearlite, no drainage = big problems. You should have let them alone, try not to go slicing and dicing the first time around. LST Low Stress Training read and learn about it if you don't already know it's a great technique for closet cases. Words of wisdom i received was to take is slow and persevere. Before you post up looking for answers show us that you have done your research. (unless your growing autoflower you aint seeing sex for a while my friend)

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As for the drainage, yes sir, I know, i wish i had some, but, we didn't, will get some next grow around. But these plants are actually around 2 1/2 months old. Before I brought my box over, these guys were struggling to survive on 2 13 watt soft white CFL. My buddy really doesn't know ANYTHING about growing, so I thought I would help him out with what I do know. I have learn books worth from this site and the plants made an amazing turn around in the past 2 weeks from being in my box.

As for the cinco de mayo plants. chucked 2 of them and kept the big one. Its got some STRANGE ass growth. I'll take a picture today to show you what I mean. The first true leaves are like....rounded then go into normal form, who knows. Heres some pix of our flowering box. Only going to flower 1-2 at a time so that the others can veg out more. Heres the spex on the new box:

-2 30 watt daylight(5000k) cfl = 2000 lumens each = 4000 total lumens(in mail)
-2 12 watt 3 1/2 inch fans; bottom = intake, top = exhaust
-Matte white finish of interior

If I forget anything, I'll post it up next time.


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You'd be better off using 2700K CFLs for flowering, 5000K+ is mostly for veg.

also, for 2000 lumens is really not great for 30W CFLs... its not bad, its just not great thats all.

I really like these ones - Lighting > Lamps > Compact Fluorescent Lamps > Lamp,FLE29HLX/2/XL827 : Grainger Industrial Supply 2200 lumens @ 2700K for 29 watts. (which is about 10 lumens per watt higher than the bulbs you mention).

I however would not buy them from that URL... thats a crazy crazy expensive price!

Also, don;t bother with an in-take fan, you should only use fans on your exhaust and have a passive intake.
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As for the drainage, yes sir, I know, i wish i had some, but, we didn't, will get some next grow around. But these plants are actually around 2 1/2 months old. Before I brought my box over, these guys were struggling to survive on 2 13 watt soft white CFL. My buddy really doesn't know ANYTHING about growing, so I thought I would help him out with what I do know. I have learn books worth from this site and the plants made an amazing turn around in the past 2 weeks from being in my box.
I've came to the conclusion that even though you have READ a whole lot, it's not as useful as getting your hands in there and getting dirty. You will learn a lot more doing it then reading about it! They are starting to look better though I might add. Hope they all turn out females!
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ill keep that in mind, ill see what goes down them might get some new ones

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welcome my friend, as I said I'd be here to the end! I try to keep my word and keep giving the wisdom that was taught to me, to you!
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Haha awesome, well, me and my buddy are trying to get at least a constant 2-3 plants going at a time, so hopefully, you will get to see our progression. Here's a pic of our new plant that's got some weird growth. Its not bad growth, its popping up everywhere, its just super weird looking...here judge fo' yo' self.

As for the passive air system, I'll see whats up with it when I get my lights in there, if its to hot definitely, if its good, I'm not too worried about it. On the grow box that these plants are in now, there is a 6" fan mounted to the cover of the box and a hole in the bottom, I'm guessing that's what you guys are talking about with a passive air system? I would switch the intake fan around if it wasn't such a bitch to do, but if it is needed, so be it.

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passive air

If you would like to see some good passive pics check my thread linked at bottom of this post. basically have double the size of your fresh air holes then the exhaust and you would then shift the static pressure and move the air thru your box... kewl hobby huh.. it leads to working with tools for sure..
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Well, ran my temp test last night in my new box, got up to 90ish, but where the lower piping sticks out, its very cool, think I might just leave it how it is, and just direct the cooler air where need be., we shall see
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Alright, well, change of plans. Turns out he's gonna bud, I'm gonna veg my little guy. My plants growth is nuts, I finally have some good pix of it, but like you will see, its not the normal plant. Made a reflector this morning from an old lamp, was just gonna use the lamp, but it was just too big and bulky. As for him, he's gonna throw his older 2700k spectrum lights in when he starts budding to help a bit more than the 6500k, any suggestions, throw 'em at me. Now for pix.

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I REPEAT, THERE HAS BEEN NO DAMAGE TO THIS PLANT, THIS IS HOW IT CAME OUT OF THE SOIL!!! If anyone knows whats up, hit me with the response, I kinda like it, there's tons of growth.
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I wouldn't worry about it, as eventually normal growth will develop and continue from there....In my last grow I had a plant that main stalk grew weird. Here is a picture below. See how there is no fan leave on the main, just some single leaves making a cross.
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Well, I am going to buy perlite today, when and how immediate do you guys think I should transplant? I'm very good with transplants, have a very good past in successful transplants, not with my own plants, but with other peoples, lol. So yes, give all advice that can be given about transplanting my little one.
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How big is the container and how long has it been in there?
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6" dia. pot, about 8" tall, and I planted them on 5/5/09, thus, it is my cinco de mayo plant. I purchased perlite today, transplanted the largest plant of the others, and am going to do this one as soon as you all say I should, its doing great though.
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If it possible to slide the root ball out without damaging anything? If so, look at it and see if it looks like it needs a transplanting. Depending on the environment, they could need transplanting anytime b/w a couple weeks to a month. It's all really dependent on how fast your root system is growing. Just make sure to mix at least 1/3 perlite to the mix. If it's topsoil then maybe you should mix about 1/2. I like a lot of perlite as to I'd rather be giving my plants watering more often to give them fresh oxygenated water compared to something that takes a week to dry before needing water.
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Haven't looked at root ball yet, will after this post, then I will update after this post, again, lol. So yeah, the plant is only 12 days old, so hope its doing good under the soil. And yes, its just plain top soil, so I mixed it about 50-50. Wish me luck....

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Well, it all went alright. I definitely needed to do it, there was tons of moister down there and you could tell the path that the water drained because thats the only place there was alot of roots. Its all good now though, heres the pics.

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Well, here's some updated pix. The things next to the plant are a BIC pen, I'm using it to keep the leaves off the soil. I have counted 7 nodes and it is under an inch tall, what is up with this plant?

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It will be alright, mine have about 7 nodes to and it's only about 3 inches tall and only about and inch and a half wide. They are like tiny bushes!
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yeah thats soundsabout the same except that miune is only 1/2 inch tall, i know its going to produce something awesome, I just odnt know what its going to be like.

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Man I was drunk last time I posted, now I feel......

Anyways, here's today's pictures. I think I have taken a pic the last three days, I see a huge growth in the plant, take a look.

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More updates.

I took pictures yesterday, jsut never got around to posting them, so the first two are of my little plant yesterday, the next 2 are of it today, and then the last pic is an updated picture of the plants in the other box. They have been on 12/12 and we weened out the males, actually took him and planted him outside to see what would happen. Major improvement I feel from before. Well, take a look.



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Man, that sucks, I was editing my last post cuz I forgot to mention we were starting some cloning experiments and it all got thrown away cuz I took too long. Anyways, we have 2 clones sitting in water, my buddy said he wanted to try it. I accidentally took the top off of the little plant to the right in the picture and put it in my own little experiment, I'm not too sure either of the experiments will work, but who knows.

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theres that persistant dude.Excellent work you nurtured those hunnies just right.Keep it up man!
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Very nice work, so much better than the first project!

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