So im on day 47 grow day 19 of flower. Im thinking of adding a bloom nute. I havnt even looked at what is available, but maybe I could get a few tips if I should, could, or shouldnt use. The soil I used was a Miracle Grow soil, with nutrients in it already sorta, one that retainded water better and a starter potting soil, plus perlite. My buds are looking good, and I have about 5.5 weeks left of 12/12 so, I dunno, I just wanna make her as big and strong as possible. Let me know. Thanks guys.

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FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
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You can add nutes till 2 to 3 weeks before the end. If you're on a budget try Alaska Fertilizers Morbloom. About 1 tablespoon per gallon once a week.

hmm, what about watering and watering with nutes. I am having to water every 2-3 days, depends on the weight of the pot, but ya, so you think I should give it a go? if I get nute burn then Im gonna have to flush and all this other crap, I mean shes looking good. I dunno.

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CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow
FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
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if you are wanting to grow a stronger and more healthy plant you want to add nutes. flushing is part of the process. pick your poison......

as far as watering/feeding. this is something else you are gonna have to figure out on your own. you will be able to tell when she needs to be feed. if the new growth is light green, feed. if your plants are dark green with tips that are starting to burn, don't.

a schedule you might try would be something like water/feed, water, water, repeat or water/feed, water, repeat.

start our with 1/4 or 1/2 strength nutes and adjust as necessary.

you can also try some molasses, preferably black strap, but it doesn't have to be. this will add carbohydrates. use at 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. you can use this with your nutes. it works really well.

good growing.


-shake

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I use that stuff currently in my BB grow. I use 2 teaspoons of Morbloom and 1 teaspoon of the fish fertilizer to each gallon. Then a tablespoon of molasses (unsulphured black molasses) to the gallon jug and give it a GOOOOOOD shake as the molasses tends to cake up at the bottom.

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Im curious about the strength I keep hearing people talk about. I went out and got some miracle grow bloom 5-30-5. On the bottle it says add 2.5ml per 4l of water. So I made 4 2l bottoles with 2.5 in each bottle on accident, ill even it out somewhere. It did say double this for outdoor plants, but I guess my question is should I follow the bottle, or really im just going to have to test it out and see.

Oh and one other thing, will adding nutes cause my ph to flux

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CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow
FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
ohhhh yeaaaa

Add only 1/4 to 1/2 of what they say on the directions. Yes, I think it will make your PH drop. Adjust your PH to 6.8 then add your ferts to it. It should drop it to about 6.5 with the runoff.

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sounds like a plan. so should I water with nutes everytime? every other time? im not going to use molasses. I dunno, to much extra crap you know. plus i havnt used anything yet and its looking good.

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CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow
FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
ohhhh yeaaaa

with the miracle grow definitely go with 1/4 to 1/2 strength to start. didn't i post that above? and some watering/feeding schedule ideas too?

c'mon bro, read the posts!

be careful with the miracle grow!


-shake

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Thanks shake, I did read your post, Im just a little lazy brained atm. I think when you said I will have to go with it and just see your right. I find it strange that I shouldnt use what it recommends but half or a quarter. Thats like so little per the amount of water I will be using. Hmm. K well we will have to see. Thanks again.

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FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
ohhhh yeaaaa

that's because a lot of ferts are chemcials. there is no real way to tell how your ladies will react. that's why you start small. you can always add but never take away. not to mention those nutes aren't made for cannabis.

some strains of cannabis can be picky about nutes.


-shake

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

sounds good. thanks man. are there nutes that are made for marijuana? literally haha.

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CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow
FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
ohhhh yeaaaa

i think advanced nutrients is supposedly made for cannabis. you might want to post that as a new thread. someone with more experience than me will chime in, but i think those are.


-shake

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I thought you only flush if you give too much nutes? Can you better explain flushing if I'm offbase?

you do flush if you give too many nutes. you also want to give your ladies a flushing about once a month with pH'd water. add some NON-ANTIBACTERIAL dishsoap at the rate of a couple of drops to a gallon. adding the soap will help to get rid of any salt build up.

you also want to stop giving nutes about two weeks prior to harvest. you only give water as needed. this is debatable but most recommend it. this helps the plants use up the nutes stored in itself and helps with the taste/smoke.


-shake

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

thanks shake

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CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow
FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
ohhhh yeaaaa

no worries.

good growing.


-shake

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"happy trees"

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

as far as watering/feeding. this is something else you are gonna have to figure out on your own. you will be able to tell when she needs to be feed. if the new growth is light green, feed. if your plants are dark green with tips that are starting to burn, don't.

hey shake this thread was pretty much exactly what i was looking for as i am using MG MC along with "rainbow mix bloom" which i mixed in with transplant as i changed to flowering. i am 4 1\2 weeks into flower and they are looking great but just seem like they arent getting as thick as last grow and i just used straight MG MC and had smaller pots, but these new ones also have almost twice as many nodes before i topped as last time, maybe its just cuz they are focusing on more areas or i am just impatient and they will get where i want them had to let them go 9 weeks last time so they still have 5 weeks to go.

anyway they are dark green and in the last 4 days or so i have notices my tips turning yellow.... is there something i should do or is this normal, should i try to give them anything before i get to flushing time?

i'm not sure what rainbow mix bloom is? do the directions say to mix in with the soil? are there directions for mixing with water and feeding?

when did you top them? when did you stop topping them?

keep in mind that there is the 40/60 phenomena.

this basically says that the first 40% of time in flower is spent stretching and the last 60% is used to thicken up those flowers!

if they are dark green and the tips are starting to yellow then i'd say you are right at the edge of pushing them too far with the nutes. the dark green is more than likely too much nitrogen (which is not good in flower, although it could be a nute deficiency). the yellow tips are nute burn though (from the sounds of everything). so that coupled with the dark green is where i arrive at my answer.

you might want to post in the plant problems forum. fill out the troubleshooting form and post pics if ya got 'em.


-shake

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"some of my sweets be tight and some of my sweets be fucked up, but all of my sweets gon' blow so killa smoke gets sucked up..." -Bun B

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." -Deceleration of Independence

the nutes dont seem to be causing any harm. The leaves are nice and vibrant green, not deep green or yellow tips.

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CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow
FirstGrow|CFL| Afgani Frost Aug 09
ohhhh yeaaaa