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Old Jun-23-2006, 11:03
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great article on LST...

hey seen a bunch of post on the boards about " LST ", well here's a good article that should answer a lot of questions...
it's from another board, hope that i am allowed to post here....

http://www.gardenscure.com/420/showthread.php?t=63090

6 out of my 8 plants are being trained right now, the middle of my plants are now developing very nice, green, new growth... growing ALOT!!!
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nice find. thanks 4 sharing
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To bad it's mixed with in-correct information. There is a lot of good information there. But when you mix the bad with the good new growers get lost and don't know what to think.

To much personal feelings being sold as fact and no science to back up the conclusions.
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To bad it's mixed with in-correct information. There is a lot of good information there. But when you mix the bad with the good new growers get lost and don't know what to think.

To much personal feelings being sold as fact and no science to back up the conclusions.
Do you know where to find the best information on LST? Besides searching the boards all day long? Is there some kind of link I am missing?

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LST is so simple it almost needs no in-depth explanation. Bend over your stems/branches and tie them to something. That's about all there is to it. The reason you would do this is to moderate the height of the plant so light is used more efficiently and/or because your growing environment is height-restricted.

I did find some things in that posted article to be erroneous, particularly as regards to topping. Whether you get good or bad results from topping is entirely strain-dependant. Some strains NEED to be topped to reach their full potential in terms of bud mass, whereas other strains don't generate any more bud mass when they are topped (but instead distribute what would have grown from one cola among several). The strains I grow (White Rhino and AK-48) both respond quite well to topping, which I have learned through experimentation. The downside of topping is that the plant requires a bit more time in veg, so you may get as much yield/time by not topping and just cycling crops more often. For some of us, who grow just one crop annually, the extra veg time is irrelevant, and what matters most is yield/crop, rather than yield/time.
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Do you know where to find the best information on LST? Besides searching the boards all day long? Is there some kind of link I am missing?

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No there is no secret it's just like you see tie it back in small increments so you don't over stress the plant. As jamstigator said. Yes it's just that easy. LST you can keep them shorting looking by making them grow to the sides and not up. Cropping they still grow up but out at the same time.

Most KBS growers crop for the bushy effect and height control more then side control. As you can see cropping did not reduce the yield as stated in that post on the other site.

The idea is to read everything you can then try your best to make the most informed decision you can. Reading in knowledge and after a time you will learn what is truth and what is crap. There is almost always some truth in crap too that is what make it so hard to figure out. That is the one single reason I can go nuts over miss-information posted on this forum some time.

Like using MG to grow, it's like feeding your plants junk food and we all know how that turns out.
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No there is no secret it's just like you see tie it back in small increments so you don't over stress the plant. As jamstigator said. Yes it's just that easy. LST you can keep them shorting looking by making them grow to the sides and not up. Cropping they still grow up but out at the same time.

Most KBS growers crop for the bushy effect and height control more then side control. As you can see cropping did not reduce the yield as stated in that post on the other site.

The idea is to read everything you can then try your best to make the most informed decision you can. Reading in knowledge and after a time you will learn what is truth and what is crap. There is almost always some truth in crap too that is what make it so hard to figure out. That is the one single reason I can go nuts over miss-information posted on this forum some time.

Like using MG to grow, it's like feeding your plants junk food and we all know how that turns out.
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Different strokes for different folks. LST takes too long for me. It's a lot faster to snip off a couple of spots than to tie stuff down. It has virtually the same effect when all is said and done, unless you plan to veg for a really long time.

If you want to try LST, it's very simple. You don't need big long articles and fancy explainations. Just tie your branches down and spread them out as much as possible. Keep doing it as the plant grows, and you will end up with one massive, spread out plant that could take up a whole greenhouse if you wanted it to.
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Is it really necessary to un-tie your plants every now and again to let them get a break or is that just bs? It sounds...untrue to me.
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Is it really necessary to un-tie your plants every now and again to let them get a break or is that just bs? It sounds...untrue to me.
100% horseshit. Look at mine.
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not to give em a break from training
but with a fan blowin on em, the main stems get guite fat very quickly and as you have to tie them tight to keepem in place youll find the ties dig in to the stem after a couple of days its worth keepin an eye on and relocateing the ties before they start cuttin deep into the stems
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