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    WHEN IS THE VEGETATION STAGE?

    I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE VEG STAGE STARTS AND HOW LONG THE LIGHT PERIOD IS .I HAVE BEEN 24/7THE PLANT IS ONLY 2 INCHES UNDER A 40WATT F40T12 PHILLIPS PLANT&AQURIUM LIGHT ANY HELP WOULD BE NICE.
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    anyone?

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    Well my friend it is in the veg. stage/emergence. Some people keep
    the lights on 24-7 during this stage and some use 18/6.
    I go with 18/6 myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yabatab View Post
    Well my friend it is in the veg. stage/emergence. Some people keep
    the lights on 24-7 during this stage and some use 18/6.
    I go with 18/6 myself.

    And might I add thats a sweet teddy bear blanket you have.
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    yeah thats not where i sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by busteruk7 View Post
    i agree
    cheers all
    On the teddy bear blanket? Yeah its sweeeeeet I want one myself!
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    i agree to but i usually start mine off at 18/6 and every week put it up an hour or two until you reach 23/1 , then work back down to 18/6 and flower or if ya got time when you get back down to 18/6 you can keep goin down every week or so till you get to 12/12
    i find this works well but can be time consuming if you go the long way
    i suppose it doesnt really matter
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    do you guy use timers for the lights?

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    A vacation timer is a must have for lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsoxian22 View Post
    I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE VEG STAGE STARTS AND HOW LONG THE LIGHT PERIOD IS .I HAVE BEEN 24/7THE PLANT IS ONLY 2 INCHES UNDER A 40WATT F40T12 PHILLIPS PLANT&AQURIUM LIGHT ANY HELP WOULD BE NICE.
    To actually answer your question, nobody else has, vegetative stage starts when the plant reaches its maximum blades per leaf.This will take some weeks. Seedling stage BEGINS, when the second pair of leaves, the one's set opposite each other, show themselves, they are usually single blades.

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    the vegatative period is the time you have to give your plant as much light as possible for photosyntisis!!! this is the period between seedling and the time when flowering begins!!! then lights should be put onto 18/6 17/7 16/8 etc etc until 12/12 is obtained!!! then after 7-9 weeks your bitch should be oozin her juices!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzlemenizzle View Post
    the vegatative period is the time you have to give your plant as much light as possible for photosyntisis!!! this is the period between seedling and the time when flowering begins!!! then lights should be put onto 18/6 17/7 16/8 etc etc until 12/12 is obtained!!! then after 7-9 weeks your bitch should be oozin her juices!!!!
    At what point is 12/12 "obtained"? How is it obtained? At what point is it best to begin flowering?
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    well they say its recomended that u can start flowering once your plant is 12" tall, as it reaches maturity, earlier and it culd cause stress, wen your plant is about 8 week old, then u can probily start to flower for another 8-10 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNVB View Post
    At what point is 12/12 "obtained"? How is it obtained? At what point is it best to begin flowering?
    When you want to flower the plant, you switch the light times down to 12 light, and 12 COMPLETE darkness. No light leaks. The best time to do this is when the nodes start alternating. This is a sign of maturity in the plant, and means its ready to flower.

    The plant will measure the UNINTERUPPTED light time and this will release a flowering hormone. You then keep the light on 12/12 for the rest of the grow.

    If its a male plant the preflower will be small balls. These contain pollen and you should kill them as soon as you see them.

    The female preflower will be little white hairs. As the flowering carries on the buds will form around these white hairs, and when you come to the end of the flowering cycle [Normally 8 weeks] you can give the plant complete darkness if you feel you want to. I dont know if it DOES make a differnce, but i do it anyway. If your using nutes then you need to flush the plant about 2 weeks before harvest, and then stop giving it water. [This will stop it from being completely wet when you harvest]

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    hi can any one help i have just finished building a all red LED grow light it has 150 super bright led's and is very powerfull...ok iam still in the seedling stage with the first two serated leafs come through can i start using the red led light from now as at the moment im only using one CFL and want to get more light in there please help thanks

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    hi can any one help i have just finished building a all red LED grow light it has 150 super bright led's and is very powerfull...ok iam still in the seedling stage with the first two serated leafs come through can i start using the red led light from now as at the moment im only using one CFL and want to get more light in there please help thanks

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    Yes you can add the led at any time, the more light the better. Although a higher Kelvin temp is recommended for vegging, it will still help your grow.

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    ok thanks Closetgrowin that has really helped me out as been wondering all day whether to put in or not....ok to get the temp up should i add a normal 60/100watt bulb high up to get a bit more heat in there....(its in a single wardrobe btw) again thanks for the reply

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    or have i got the meaning of kelvin temp wrong...(bit of a newbi soz)

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    The kelvin temp is the color of light a bulb emits. A high Kelvin temp is more of a white/blue light which is better for vegitating plants. A low Kelvin temp is more orange color and needed to flower your plants. Try for a Kelvin temp of 6500k for veg and 2700k for flowering. Usually says on bulbs or box. The temp of your room should be around 75.

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    ok cool stuff... i also have 12 ultra bright white leds which i will put in i no its not much but hopfully will make sum diffrence i also have a load of yellow leds but heard yellow is useless in grow what does anyone think to yellow light.....thanks

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    Ya yellow is useless

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    To answer the OPs question, You have there a sprout or seedling, it will take 2 to 3 weeks for it to develop a good root system, then it can be called the vegetative state or mode and it will stay in this mode for many years at anything over say 16/8 light, (but more ppl use 18/6 or 24/0) unless you "force" it to flower by changing the light schedule to 12/12. Generally they will stay in this veg state and grow opposing branches (one out each side at the same level) up to about the 9th node, and then the plant will switch itself to alternating branches. You may begin to flower now if you wanted, but it's better to get some roots going first.

    You can also flower anytime while it's growing the 9 nodes, but it's better, imo to wait until it switches to alternating nodes, no matter the time it takes to get there. As the 9th node forms it can be deemed to be in the "pre-flower" mode. And flowering can commence at any time after that depending on how tall you want to go. Height has nothing to do with it being ready to flower or not(it's a personal decision), go by the nodes you count. You can have a 3 node plant that's 12 inches or a 9 node plant that is 3 inches. There are some right squatty strains out there now! The veg mode can be however long you want it to be, but most indoor growers have a limit that is called a "ceiling", that prevents us from growing 10 or 20 ft plants, so pick a max height you want your finished plant to be (use the maximum height you can raise your light(s) to and still have the distance you need to the plant)and veg to 2 or 3 feet FROM (ex: you want a 5 ft plant, so veg until it hits 2.5 to 3' and then send into veg) that and send into flower mode by cutting back the light cycle to 12/12. The reason for this is it will not instantly stop growing in height when in flower mode, but will continue to grow another few feet even while flowering. And yes, it is very important to make sure the dark cycle is total and uninterrupted! It's the dark cycle that will send it into flower, not a shorter "day".

    There is no advantage imo and it will slow everything down to incrementally change the lights...go straight to 24/0 (18/6 or anything in between is acceptable) after the seedling phase, and when ready to flower go straight to the 12/12...not only is it a PITA to change in small steps, it definitely slows the changes down.

    You can veg for a very long time (years), which is how we keep mothers to clone from, but I generally veg for 4 to 6 weeks, depending on strain, then go to flower depending on when I want it finished and how much I want to harvest, although the harvest will be what it is. Flowering times are much more set at certain times again depending on strain...some will be done at 6 weeks and others could take twice that long. Go by trichs color for best harvest, again, a personal choice! Some go 30% amber and cut, some 50%, some 80%, but any longer in flower from 80% amber the potency may start to go down, so there is a point of diminishing returns! Whew, I hope this helps cuz I'm tired of typing!

    PS You will not get much of a plant or any buds with that light! I doubt it has enough power to get the plant to bud properly. MORE LIGHT! Get more light! LOTS MORE LIGHT! You may want to consider a more powerful light even!
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    The Ex should read "....then send it into flower"....I typed veg SORRY! dam I cain't even edit gooder....DOH!
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