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Contact your local and state representatives and tell them what you think of the Patriot Act, you could make a difference.



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I just order WW from Dutch seeds two weeks ago havent heard a reply yet but i heard it takes 21 days at the most.Im just prying that it will come by.
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Thumbs down Apart from the grammatical errors, you aren't up on Political Issues either.

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Actualy its illegal for them to spy and trapt you like that , so no you wont get caught.
I have a few problems with this reply. The spelling of the word actually is wrong in the post I'm commenting on. But kudos for correctly spelling the alternative metal band "Trapt". It looks as if trapped may be what you were attempting but that would not fit. You could use trap.

You did not assign a meaning to "them". I assume "them" is a reference to U.S. law enforcement officers. Also, you cannot be certain that an individual will or will not be caught based on the information you have and even if you had a true statement. How would you know? Risk is always a factor when dealing with the production of drugs in the U.S.

It is legal for U.S. law enforcers to spy and trap anyone in the U.S. and even abroad in some countries and territories. First off, spying became legal when George Bush signed the Patriot Act back in 2001. This is back when the terrorists scare allowed Bush to basically sign an act of sedition into law. Essentially, this act expands the power of law enforcement by allowing searching of phones, medical records, financial records, just to name a few provisions. What about trap?

I assume you are referring to entrapment, which you don't seem to understand when it comes down to the basic legal information. You probably should because you are way off. Entrapment is simply when law enforcement officers or U.S. agents persuade the person to commit a crime that the individual did not intend to commit. But there is no entrapment where a person is ready and willing to break the law and law enforcement officers just give a person the opportunity for the person to commit a crime.

Anyway, possession of cannabis seeds is legal. It's the cultivation which is illegal. And a good attorney can beat entrapment in some cases, but not the famous drug dealing stings you see on COPS. However, your computer and mail have a slim chance of ever being looked at. And seeds are just a blip in the scheme of things. You'd be a waste of time. But if other stuff happened and someone snaked you out while plants are growing in your room, then you may have some problems. If you even suspect you are being watched, move or kill all plants. Best idea is to grow in a good area or spot. IE: The basement of your wheelchair riding granny who can't walk down steps might not raise suspicion. Or the small clearing in the trees on your uncles large farm property would likely have lowered risks. Better yet, get an experienced grower to grow the plants for you, but for a profit. Or make some hybrids and clones of killer bud. Don't grow and show. Big mouths lead to big trouble. Omerta............
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Anyway, possession of cannabis seeds is legal.
This couldn't be further from the truth. Cannabis seeds are illegal in the U.S. unless they have been sterilized (or whatever the term is) for use in such things as bird feed. Since you're talking about cultivation I'm sure that your weren't talking about legal bird feed.

WOW! Why would you tell anyone that?
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WOW! Everyone needs to read this closely.



This couldn't be further from the truth. Cannabis seeds are illegal in the U.S. unless they have been sterilized (or whatever the term is) for use in such things as bird feed. Since you're talking about cultivation I'm sure that your weren't talking about legal bird feed.

WOW! Why would you tell anyone that?

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Anyway, possession of cannabis seeds is legal. It's the cultivation which is illegal. And a good attorney can beat entrapment in some cases, but not the famous drug dealing stings you see on COPS. However, your computer and mail have a slim chance of ever being looked at. And seeds are just a blip in the scheme of things. You'd be a waste of time. But if other stuff happened and someone snaked you out while plants are growing in your room, then you may have some problems. If you even suspect you are being watched, move or kill all plants. Best idea is to grow in a good area or spot. IE: The basement of your wheelchair riding granny who can't walk down steps might not raise suspicion. Or the small clearing in the trees on your uncles large farm property would likely have lowered risks. Better yet, get an experienced grower to grow the plants for you, but for a profit. Or make some hybrids and clones of killer bud. Don't grow and show. Big mouths lead to big trouble. Omerta............

no offense but i have a few problems with THIS reply!

1st. dont grow in the area that does not belong to u... u can get other people's life ruined if shit goes down

2. cannabis seeds are illegal as fake boobs mentioned. I even read a story a while back that customs is starting to use some really advanced machines that make any seeds passing through sterile, tried looking for the article but could not find it, will post if i found it

3. if someone snitches on your ass, regardless of where or how u r growing, u WILL DEFINITELY FACE SOME PROBLEMS. talk about the "anonymous tips"


Once u get involved with marijuana in any direct way, u r bearing some risk no matter how minimal... police and officials have shown in the past in absences of such a law as patriot act, that they can lie and fabricate or plant evidence on u... thats just too easy if there is any will to bust ya ass!

if u wanna grow, walk in knowing that if u get caught, there is no going back, u will forever bear a mark on your record. and u will go thru hell and back if caught

but I betcha if u act wise and do your best and be smart enough, there is technically no problems unless something out of your control happens. even for then u must have plan Bs and Cs and Ds...

there are 10s of 1000s of people growing in the US and some never get caught... cuz they have exhausted information and techniques and experience and know how to do it without getting caught.. they know wtf they are doin
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Just to clear things up..... cannabis seeds are illegal in the US.
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hey be careful customs might get that shit and you'll get green papers in the mail. Trust me it happened to me when i ordered a spore syringe of shrooms. It ain't fun and it is serious. Make sure the company labels it differently on the outside b/c customs look for key words and also some companies. But dutch seed company is very well known and is safe.
green papers? what do they say? what happens then?
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order from seedbay, they are the cheapest and i have gotten three out of three letters from them.

also cannabisseeds.com has the cheapest price on seeds anywhere but they are selling name brand strains without consent. if you have the $160 to spend on that official White Widow seed pack from The Flying Dutchman thats cool, but unless you are rich just get the knock offs from cannabissseds.com. or do what i do, get official mandalla seeds from seedbay, they are only 20 bucks a pack and the weed is HIGH GRADE (especially White Satin, stoned me as hard as any white strain i have ever smoked).

mandalla is the shit, name brand quallity, knock off price. High Times loves pushing his strains cause they know hes really down for the cause.
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yea yo, you gotta watch out for whats around already.. i thought emery seeds was out of business already, i remember DEA went to canada and shut their shit down and wanted marc emery extradited to the US on some bullshit..
alot of companies on the net are also DEA decoys, be careful who you purchase from, and be careful of who you talk to about these kinds of things, you dont know what kind of leo's watchin, then throwin in the bait to reel you in.. they DO do that, it HAS been done, and for that it can NOT be DISregarded as NOT possible or NOT going to happen in your case.. people also think it wont happen to them because theres like a million other people for them to worry about.. but then again theres like a million other people thinking the exact same thing.. so BE CAREFUL!!! don't go all in until or unless you know the GUARANTEES..
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its the same question diffrent country

has anyone know if its safe to order seeds to israel more then us?
i am from israel and here no one talk about this in the net
how safe is it?????????????????
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i thought seeds are fine to have but once germinated they can cause problems.....

it is ILLEGAL to have them shipped to you from another country though.

but if you have a bag of seeds on you and you get pulled over there isnt much they can do except have suspicion of other STUFF like having marijuana on you..and then they have probable cause to search you/vehicle....
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i thought seeds are fine to have but once germinated they can cause problems.....

it is ILLEGAL to have them shipped to you from another country though.

but if you have a bag of seeds on you and you get pulled over there isnt much they can do except have suspicion of other STUFF like having marijuana on you..and then they have probable cause to search you/vehicle....
Here in the US seeds will get you busted just the same as buds. Seeds are illeagle to have.
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I know 2 people who sold seeds on the internet who lived in the USA...They were doing really good until some 13 year old stole money for the seeds from his mom and got caught..... the mom turned in the breeder to the local Leo and the Feds also got involved

Now both of those people are looking at up to 40 years and 100s of 1000s of dollars in fines


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A 20-year-old Michigan woman appeared in federal court Wednesday, accused of being part of a large marijuana-growing operation that used the Internet to sell seeds around the world, all based from a Hamilton Lake home.

Laura Allece Wass was indicted this month by a federal grand jury in Fort Wayne, along with Jesse Groth, 29, also of Michigan. They face two counts each – possession of more than 100 marijuana plants and maintaining a common nuisance. Groth remains in the Newago County Jail in Michigan.

While the federal indictment sheds little light on the activities of the two, parallel state charges filed in Steuben County Superior Court against Wass detail some of the case, as does a recently unsealed federal search warrant.

Wass was arrested this month on two local charges, also possessing marijuana and maintaining a common nuisance.

According to court documents, the two were shipping a variety of marijuana seeds around the country and to other countries through their business "Elite Genetics." They lived in a home on Hamilton Lake.

Their activities came to light in early June when a woman from another state e-mailed the Ashley Police Department saying her teenage son had stolen several hundred dollars from her and admitted he had sent the money to a marijuana-seed operation in Indiana.

The woman searched her son’s computer and found evidence of e-mail communications with Elite Genetics that directed her son to mail payments to Laura Wass on Hamilton Lake, according to court documents. Undercover investigators established an e-mail address and began communicating with Elite Genetics about buying marijuana seeds.

Around the same time, in a separate investigation, U.S. Postal Service inspectors contacted the Hamilton Police Department regarding Groth. He was a fugitive, having skipped out on a 2006 sentencing on federal wire fraud charges.

Groth had been charged with bilking eBay buyers out of thousands of dollars, not sending them sports cards they had bought. He was sentenced in absentia to two years in prison on two of the counts and ordered to pay $20,788 in restitution, according to court documents.

Postal inspectors believed Groth was in the Hamilton area, and the address they gave local police was the same one under investigation in the marijuana-seed case, according to court documents.

On July 14, federal, state and local law enforcement served a search warrant at the Hamilton Lake home – seizing computers, cash, fluorescent lights, envelopes, seeding heat mats and numerous seeds, according to court documents.

The Elite Genetics Web site was still active Wednesday, offering dozens of varieties of marijuana seeds.

A detention hearing has been set for next week for Wass and Groth.

If convicted, each could serve up to 40 years in prison and be required to pay hundreds of thousands in fines, according to court documents.

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Well,

I have ordered many times never had an unexpected visit or order seized by customs. I will keep doing as I please in the so called "Land of the Free" till otherwise. But what do I know?

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Several years back the bureau set up a bogus hydroponic store, got credit card info with addresses etc. and busted the fuck out of a bunch of people. Thats not entrapment folks. Pay in cash.
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