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Old Feb-21-2008, 00:04
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yo, great tips. really great. im gettin my license soon so its all good to know.

that dumb mother fucker in the back just fucked over his friends. everything was rollin fine until that kid in the back bugged out.

well, i'll be on my way now as i am rolling an extremely large blunt.
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There are two options:

Consent - 'Co-operate'

Don't consent - 'Resist'

Both options are viable in preserving your freedom, depending the precautions you take.

Iris is correct when he emphatically quotes Berry Cooper. By not consenting, this throws out a huge red flag, the radio lights up with calls of "We have a refusal' The cursury search can usually be beat if the hiding spot if good enough. The only negative, is that if he does find it, you consented, you're arrested, can't contest it in court with a motion to suppress.

It's quite satisfying not consenting in my opinion. Standing up for your rights. You don't fall prey of their mind games and their domination and power. This is the anarchist way. So, if you don't want to consent, be aware they may call a K9 unit. Therefore, wrap you cannabis while wearing gloves, do this before you leave in a new baggy, so it doesn't have time to permeate. Put it in the middle of the vehile, possible high up so the dog can't smell it. Better safe then sorry.
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Then here's a question for you. I was popped at the border patrol area in the US on an obsure shortcut road I take all the time. I've passed that checkpoint all the time and they have dogs out there.

This one time I actually had a pipe and a gram of weed in a backpack in the back of my car I had completely forgotten about(shame on me right?) Unaware of any of the rights I had, I consented to the search because the dog tagged my car. I was arrested and booked but months later the case was dismissed with prejudice just because I kept dragging it out and asking to talk to the city DA. I was lucky, I admit, but if I did not consent to the search would I have been in the wrong? I mean, wasn't it probable cause that the dog targeted me?

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fuck the police me and my buddie got pulled over with a half of so pretty potent skunk bud on our way back from a club one night it just so happen to be the K9 unit in which case your automaticly fucked and they took my brand new pipe i was pissed they gave my friend possession but i bailed him out the next day and we got hi as hell
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fuck the police me and my buddie got pulled over with a half of so pretty potent skunk bud on our way back from a club one night it just so happen to be the K9 unit in which case your automaticly fucked and they took my brand new pipe i was pissed they gave my friend possession but i bailed him out the next day and we got hi as hell
the question that's lingering in my mind is, do they have to have probable cause to bring in the dog??

anyone?? I know there's a lot of well educated people here, at least one who can probably accurately answer that question..thanks guys
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what if your smoking in your car and you get pulled over can you still tell them they cant search it?
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ok so i got stopped the other day by the cops and when they tell me to put my hands on the hood if i say i dont consent to any searches do i still have to put my hands on the hood?
Well, hopefully you wouldn't give them enough of a reason to get you out of the car...But if they did however they do have the right to pat you down to make sure you don't have any weapons or something that could be of harm to them..

If asked to step out of the vehicle I'd respond with...why officer, am I going to be detained?

I'm tired of being pushed around by cops...it stops now
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Hell yeah mark....thats what i'm talking about...But as far as the DOG goes, i would think that the cops are going to be dick heads and say shit like that to scare you into going along with the search
or w/e but, if theres NO probable cause, any thing that happens after you say NO I DO NOT CONSENT ect... is all bullshit, and as long as you stay with in your rights and dont tell them anything about anything, you would most likely have a good chance of fighting your case, because if you can show how your rights were VIOLATED you can then show them some paper with a law suit all over it...... basically you have to play them, the way they are playing you, and remember everything that happend nd how it happend.....

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This is a bomb ass vid. Thanks a bunch. This is so good to know, I find it kind of funny how close you can be to getting caught but then avoid it. Knowledge of your right is very important.

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I've read both sides of the "sticking to your rights" vs. "hiding well and allowing a search" argument and both have valid points. It really comes down to reading the cop in the situation and playing it by ear so to speak. Some interstate cops will just give you a ticket rather routinely for speeding and send you on your way because that's what they do, and I find that most local cops tend to want to be heroes and bust "criminals", AKA you and me, and will likely go through whatever hoops necessary to get into your car. The thing that sucks is that those dogs can smell through anything depending on how long its been where its at, so the best advice is to keep it in nested air tight jars if at all possible.

If you do manage to get pulled over, there are some things you can do to help your case and lessen the chance that the cop will care to search. Keep your car in good repair, make sure ALL the lights work, use your blinkers, etc. Its also a good idea to keep your car free of trash. If cops pull over a clean car, they will be able to see everything through the windows without wanting to snoop around, so unless there's a bong laying on the floorboard, he probably won't feel the need to dig around. In high school, way back before I even though about smoking weed, I had a bad ass stereo in my crappy rusted out Cavalier. My car hit around 145 dB easily so I went out to a parking lot in the industrial section on the edge of my town to tune my new head unit I had just finished installing at like 9 PM. A cop pulls up and finds me reading the instruction manual and is flashing his light around in my car looking at stuff while he's talking to me. I was wearing cut off jean shorts and a Limp Bizkit (yeah, I know) shirt and my car was full of garbage, all of which I'm sure made him more suspicious. He eventually asked to search my car like I knew he would, and of course I let the pig search my car because there was nothing in it but garbage. Afterwards, I made sure to thank him for harassing me for being a decent citizen and tuning my stereo outside city limits instead of at my house where I would have woken up a 5 block radius. He then attempted to be nice and told me good luck with my stereo. Yeah, thanks pig!

Anyways, your appearance and how you present yourself and your vehicle give a way a lot of your secrets; whether or not this is ethical is debatable, but what is not debatable is that it happens and more often than not, the cop is right. They are stereotypes for a reason, so if a cop pulls you over in your car full of garbage and you're wearing tie dye and rocking dreadlocks, chances are you are going to get treated a lot worse than an "average" person in the same clean vehicle with "normal" clothes. It sucks, but its a reality of the society we live in, so plan accordingly.

All in all, this is an awesome video, so thanks for posting it.

Oh, and I don't recommend smoking in your car ever! Its kind of like how you shouldn't drink beers in the car. Save it until you get to your destination, because getting pulled over after smoking is not only a buzzkill, but it could also land you and/or your friends in jail because there's no way a cop won't smell it.

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Barack Obama is no friend of marijuanna users

Just when the country thought it was going to get rid of Bush and his wiretapping civil rights violations, along comes Barack Obama.

January 9, 2003 BO sponsors bill in IL Senate (SB0008) that allows taped eavesdropping in controlled substance and marijuana cases and allows those tapes to be admitted as evidence at trial.

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Yes, You have the right to resist arrest.

However the cops have the right to beat the crap out of you for resisting. And deny and the search and the game is on.

Only screw with the cops if you have nothing to fear.

once you piss them off they don't care if they are right or wrong. They will have you in jail or court, just to screw up or day.

USA cops have the rights to pull some NAZI ass stuff on you. Don't put it past them to plant alittle on you either. They are asshole humans and maybe had a fight with girlfriend or wife didn't give no ass last night.

My Lawyer told me that the police can lie all day long to you about anything. And they did to me. Ask to have your rights read to you and see what you get for it. Because then you can request a lawyer be present. Talk about pissed cop. Anything you say before rights are read is valunteering info to use in court.

Since what happened to me a little over a year ago. The cops suck ass and cannot be trusted for anything. If you ask me I would rather have crackheads being cops. At least you know they will stick you for a few buck for crack. Cops do it for fun. Because of the way my court deal went, I know for a fact the cops smoked my drank 12 oz's I grew cause they dropped that in court so they didn't have to bring it in court and I heard rumors. Small town.

I have been waiting for them to come ask me to grow some more for them. LOL.
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i'm pretty sure
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Did anyone notice, unless Im wrong, that at around 35 minutes when the 2 officers were in the ladies house, they arrested here and walked out of the room....leaving the weed on the fucking dresser!!

That shit made me laugh.
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Here's another point of interest not stated. HAVE YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE ALWAYS. Although you may not think it, cops in most states have the right to arrest you On The Spot for not having a license. I mean immediately step out of the car, no questions, handcuffed, your car is then searched, whether or not you consent. If they find a pipe, they'll call it warm whether or not it was and you bet your Ass your going to jail for a DUI, no field sobriety tests or anything. Simple as that, they do what they want and make up reasons for it. Also, NEVER ADMIT TO ANYTHING, you may think it will just piss the cop off, and if you admit yeah man I was tokin he may just let you off, HA! They have microphones for a reason, assume the cop is Not going to cut you a break. Like the adam and whatshisface video linked, assume the cops cannot relate at all to being human. If your car smells and you have to crack the window and the cop asks you why... well your windows broken. He wont figure out that its not if you have your license, dont consent, play it cool. I disagree with the cigarette part, light that sunabitch as soon as he pulls behind you. You can say your a chain smoker, it may keep him from smelling the stuff in the first place, and if he smells something it will give you a point to argue in court. No sir your honor, not pot, just clove cigarettes.
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If people didn't have balls back in the 50's then the civil rights movement would have been stale therefore I encourage you guys to do this, however, in this point in my life I really can't afford to stir up a little revolution. My life is too important for me and this Mj laws is only a discrepency for me rather than a profound affect on my lively hood.....if I want to smoke I just do it at my house and grow my own stuff. I'm saving my energy for the real fights such as more restrictions on the freedom of speech if this whole muslim thing gets worse or if this North American Union deal goes into effect.
This is MMj's problem most ppl have the same attitude they all
just wanna grow it,smoke it; but not stand up and fight for it!!
If everyone who smoke's cannibis would get out of there closet's
and stand up !!Fight!!and tell the U.S government to make it legal!!
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The biggest problem people have is their defensive from the start with cops. If you treat them with respect, straight forward answers and look them right them in the eye, let them know you know they have authority, they will generally let you go. I got pulled over in the middle of a deal, I had an ounce under the seat; cop comes up, ask what I'm doing, I said just driving around, than asks if I have been smoking any dope. Said no once again with a giggle to make it seem like absolutley not, and he let me go.
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I'm a pretty old fart now, smoked for 35 years, and have learned a few things.

You don't challenge a cops authority unless your ready for some pain and a long hard fight. He's able to do about anything he wants, and all you can do is hope to make it up later, with lawyers and a lot of expense.

Best is to keep your shit together. Current pates, current inspection, insurance, ALL your lights working etc.

It's well known cops expect and look for drugs etc. from someone who drives with expired shit and non working lights etc. If ya don't believe me ask one some time.

Keep cool with the cops, keep the attitude he's just doing his job and know it's always easier for him to let you go than to bust you, and most cops are looking for a reason to let you go if you give it to them, not all but most.

Act the fool, buck up and get in their face, and it turns into looking for a reason to bust you down every time.

I've been caught with an oz of pot several times, never been busted yet. Was caught with a dozen small plants, no bust. The cops either dumped it out or took it, and let me go on my way. I've also seen guys take beatings Rodney King never even dreamed about and everything in between.

I was let go because I always show respect, let em know I know they have the authority, and they are just doing their job, and I'm a decent guy that doesn't need to be taught a lesson.

They WILL get a dog to search your car if ya don't let them most of the time, they will bust you if they have to do that.

Or just don't carry more than you can swallow..
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