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Busted: A citizen's guide to surviving police encounters

For some of you young adults such as myself out there, this video could possibly provide you with knowledge to make yourself much less susceptible to being busted in certain circumstances; I was never aware you could refuse a search without probable cause until I watched this. I watch this every couple months or so..

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Great flick...a MUST watch for all!!! I got that sticky on this for ya.

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awesome video.great tips.
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great video. I've seen it before. Even if you aren't doing anything illegal it is still very important to be aware of your rights
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this is super educational, gettin my liscense soon, good stuff to know
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WATCH THIS VIDEO!!! This Video could pottentially save me Probation, Jail, and large Fines!! Thanks a ton!! One thing that is a little unclear is, If they smell it, is that probable cause? I live in Minnesota!!! Great Video!!!
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Woah guys hold the phone! I'll agree with this video on the pedestrian part and the house part but do not under any circumstances LISTEN TO THE CAR PART!!! He's right about those laws being your constitutional rights but lets step back into reality here. Everything those stoners did in the car scene is giving that officer reason to suspect something illegal is going on. Though it doesn't give him the right to search it does give him the right to do other things. For one thing he cracked his window which is an indication that he's attempting to hide the smell. Also he refused consent which is the stupidest thing anyone can do. Also he locked his car which would obviously make him suspicious. Though all these are very well in our consitutional rights doesn't mean it will really save you. By doing all of those it will certainly raise an eyebrow for the cop in which case he would then call for back up, I.E the k-9 unit. Cops are allowed to detain you for as long as he likes even if it meant all day. So after getting the k-9 unit to come by though they couldn't physically get in the car they are allowed to sniff around it which is generally enough for a dog to sniff out pot. If the dog goes nuts and starts scratching to get in thats probable cause which is enough to search your car and that would lead to your doom. Even if the k-9 unit really didn't smell pot the cops literally train the dogs to go nuts when they say phrases like "go get it boy". By training them to go nuts like that it makes the dogs believe their "toy" is in there which would cause a false read. So heres my advice...

First off if your driving around with anything illicit find a really good hiding spot like the speakers or under the dash board. Usually hiding it in really low or really high places makes it more difficult for the dogs to sniff out. The stupidest thing would be to put it in one of those shaving creame cans that screw off....cops know all about those things. The only way those things would work is if you had other things around it to associate it with like in a shaving creame kit inside a duffle bag. So you have a super good hiding spot right? If a cop pulls you over just act calm and cool. Don't fidget, don't smoke a cig, don't shift your eyes. Just look him straight in the eye using your poker face. Cops gonna ask you what to do and of course you don't admit to any wrong doing but he may or may not ask you for a search. IF HE ASKS CONSENT! The reason being is because if you don't that will raise the eyebrow. More than likely the cop is going to search through simple places like glove compartment and under searts. He more than likely won't unscrew the car just to get to it. After he does a quick search just be on your way.

This video is 100 percent true about the legality of it but not really accurate about the reality of it. The best thing to do is put yourself in the cops shoes and make it appear as if you have nothing to hide. Keeping a clean face and a safe location are good starters but there a million other things one would probably want to do as well which they failed to mention. For one thing if your carrying stuff don't speed. Even 1 mile over the speed limit is enough to get pulled over. Also under speeding is just as illegal. Best thing to do is go exactly the speed limit therefore they cannot legally pull you over. Obey all traffic rules like complete stops and turn signals and whatnot. Also don't have bumper stickers like legalize it or even ones like help the police. The best thing to do is have no bumper stickers at all. Also don't go around with a pot shirt and dredlocks...cops arn't dumb. And most importantly don't go "hotboxing" if your gonna smoke do it in your home or another safe location...use your own judgement for that. And if your only carrying pot and its only a small amount your best bet is to just simply eat it. Anyway the video had some good tips but definitely needs a reality check.
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Dream, you are half correct.....the reason you do and say all that stuff in the car part is to cover yourself. If you asert your rights then you can bring that up in court, and with a decent lawer you can show that your rights were infringed. Also if it's only MJ then and you really want to bring up the Bill of Rights and the Constitution you can say/show how MJ being illegal is Unconstitutional even though it's a "law", I'm shure that if you play your card's right, as well as asert your GIVEN/ENTITLED rights as, an AMERICAN that is free to make your own choices, that don't infringe on any other AMERICAN'S rights, And SMOKING/VAPEING/EATING/LOVING MARIJUANA is not doing any of the latter.

But I said half correct because if you don't live somewhere where argueing your political views can get you somewhere( like where i live )then you better hope that the cops arnt compleat assholes and they follow the law as well.

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well your correct, if you have the balls to assert your rights then thats great, more power to you. But if you want to avoid getting arrested then its ill advised. Judges are supposed to be non biased in their opinions but the reality of it is EVERYONE is biased in their opinions whether they try to or not. Most judges will look at the case and side more with the cop rather than the constitution unfortunately because the fact is most people who are up there in the legal system are against pot. Its possible to win that case but it would be incredibly difficult to do it....I mean you'd have to have a lawyer like OJ's to win something like that. If your not afraid to get a criminal record then it would be important to stand up to it but like a lot of good citizens in this World we have a hell of a lot to live for than loseing some of those rights. I would only fight for something if it heavily violated my freedoms. For instance, if I called the cops because someone stole my money and the cops beat the shit out of me because I bothered them, then I would go up in a riot and most certainly risk my own freedom and life for it but risking your life for this is like risking your life when someone stole 30 dollars from you. Its better to just be submissive about it.
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Yes, Dream thats what im saying, if we can have people stand up for their rites as well as let the people who are not educatied on the gloryous MJ and educate them on is, i bevlive in that sort of thing going on(being detaind for long peirods of time) and afecting the avaibility of cops, they can bring it to the attition to everyone about how some cop waisting time with some mear "breach in our rights"(gettig busted for MJ possesion/growing ect..) is being detaind for long peirods of time whilst another young teenage woman is raped or a kid kidnapd and the cop cant respond quick enugh to find the "creepy guy in the night", JUst because one "suspeicious looking man/woman" is standing up for their rights. And in adidtion to wasting time, they are also wasting MONEY,(TAX PAYERS MONEY), DO u see what i'm getting at here. If we do this and spred this message around i think that we will some NORMALITY in our life time.
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Dosnt matter. Cops will still bust in your car and cuff you and then bring you to jail even if there case is going to be dropped.
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yea exacly im well aware of the repercusions of the situation, but its the reprocusions that im trying to change and that is one way that people can stand up for whats right, with a good lawer or even just with you own argument you can show how that law is unjust, and show that there is a real problem with our goverment when Citicenz of our cuntry are hastled for envoking their rights, in adition to wasting billions of dollars of tax payers money in the process. in aditon to other things that i said before.


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yo, great tips. really great. im gettin my license soon so its all good to know.

that dumb mother fucker in the back just fucked over his friends. everything was rollin fine until that kid in the back bugged out.

well, i'll be on my way now as i am rolling an extremely large blunt.
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i paused this video at 4:20

im so high =]
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fuckin texas cops suck man, atleast around the houston area
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well your correct, if you have the balls to assert your rights then thats great, more power to you. But if you want to avoid getting arrested then its ill advised. Judges are supposed to be non biased in their opinions but the reality of it is EVERYONE is biased in their opinions whether they try to or not. Most judges will look at the case and side more with the cop rather than the constitution unfortunately because the fact is most people who are up there in the legal system are against pot. Its possible to win that case but it would be incredibly difficult to do it....I mean you'd have to have a lawyer like OJ's to win something like that. If your not afraid to get a criminal record then it would be important to stand up to it but like a lot of good citizens in this World we have a hell of a lot to live for than loseing some of those rights. I would only fight for something if it heavily violated my freedoms. For instance, if I called the cops because someone stole my money and the cops beat the shit out of me because I bothered them, then I would go up in a riot and most certainly risk my own freedom and life for it but risking your life for this is like risking your life when someone stole 30 dollars from you. Its better to just be submissive about it.
I will never let an officer of the law trump on my rights. The constitution was written for a reason, and as an American, I'll be DAMNED if they're going to pretend like it doesn't exist without me intervening. If The pot's in my ashtray and he asks to search my vehicle even with the ashtray closed, it's not worth going to jail over, and I'll simply respond by asking if he has probable cause. I like your negative attitude though, hopefully a lot of my fellow young people aren't as ignorant towards their rights
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Yeah Markass, thats what I'm talking about. Stand up your rights as an American, and even if you have nothing to hide you shud still stand up for whats right and make shure that police are not taking advantage of the power, And if they do hastle you and try to give you a hard time for no good(or any reason related to MJ) reason then you should always tell your senator and/or the news media. Because there is no way that the laws that are putting people that are not doing anything to anybody(people embracing the Herb i've come to know and love, Marijuana), in prison for the same length of time as someone who raped a little girl or some other violent crime that is scaring someone for life, are in any way justified to be laws.
So for any one elce like Dream wants to let your rights be broken like its nothing, you might as well not even use the "magical plant" because, you wouldn't be helping me or anyone elce like me that wants to see Marijuana be legalized in my/their life time by not standing up for your self.
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"JUST SAY NO".

i paid $250.00 u.s. dollars for this advice from an attorney.
"JUST SAY NO". pass that to all of you for free.
anytime a cop asks permission to do anything,"JUST SAY NO".your not gonna beat the ride but you can beat the wrap.
dont be a smart ass and dont be rude even if he is, nowadays everything is on video and audio.this benefits you more than them believe it or not.the camera is the only non biased witness therefore the best witness for you and its undisputable evidence in court,for you and them.usually they say i smell whatever and i can search your car anyway if i want but id like to have your permission "JUST SAY NO". now this will piss them off because now they are no longer in control of the situation.and they dont like that at all. if you aint rude about it and just state matter of fact that you are within the bounds of your rights not be searched. if hes gonna do it he doesnt have to ask and probably wont , hell just say he's gonna do it if he really has probable cause.he saw a joint in your ashtray you forgot about or you had residue from rolling one and driving on your shirt, ect.ect.thats probable cause and so is smelling it.

its all a game , learn to play the game and use the rules to benefit you, not them.they have to play by the rules to a certain extent.and if you dont know the rules your fubared.

if your getting jacked or think you are being harassed by the cop at all, ask to have a supervisor come out to the scene. im not sure about all police depts but most they will have a super come out and you can talk to him instead.
dont let your emotions get the better of you be cool and calm and just say no.
dream has alot of good points but dream you should never ever incriminate yourself, so if you have something on you you arent supposed to for sure you say no.if you got some good dank they are gonna smell it. especially under the dash where its gonna get into the ac or worse the heater. never carry more than you are willing to eat.was always my phrase.

my mom calls it being invisible,all your lights work,including your liscensce plate light. tags and inspection are good. little stuff to give them a reason to pull you over.as far as speeding,well if you go 1 mph over around here youll get run over. a lil slower than the flow of traffic is usually good.most people run 10mph over here, i usually run 5-7mph over. never had a speeding ticket ever.(knockin my own head now to knock on wood).
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