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Just when the country thought it was going to get rid of Bush and his wiretapping civil rights violations, along comes Barack Obama.

January 9, 2003 BO sponsors bill in IL Senate (SB0008) that allows taped eavesdropping in controlled substance and marijuana cases and allows those tapes to be admitted as evidence at trial.

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I think you're reading it wrong. If I were arrested for pot, I'd want the conversations I'd have with police to be taped. I can think of few things scarier than me being in court with only my word vs policemens' word... and you know there'd be more than one policemen against you.

Obama supports cannabis decriminalization, but now that he's taking down Hillarytron and has a chance of winning he's toned it down and actively supports medical cannabis alone. None of the candidates that might actually get elected will be better than that. And frankly, even acceptance of medical cannabis is a shit ton better than what we've got now. Baby steps is the way to win.

I know he's not Ron Paul, but RP didn't have a chance of being elected. Just saying the truth we all know... for whatever reason, it wasn't gonna happen, now or ever. Realistically speaking, Obama's the next best choice.

I'm a chemical engineer. I can say that if you wrap pot in plenty of zip lock bags, the mass diffusion rate of pot through the bags will be too low for anyone to smell it. You might want to consider putting wrapped pot inside a bag full of water or something, and maybe freezing it too... never tried that though, but I'm pretty sure it'll work. Chemistry is fun!

The better choice here would be to leave it at home, or take a tiny bit you can swallow... like other people said. I really liked the video though, but I doubt a cop will take kindly to anyone asserting their rights.
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Yes they will do what they want because they can.. Go ask Rodney King about that... Some are just looking for you to give them an excuse, but not most.

I care that I have rights, but I don't have the right to carry weed, and the cop has rights too, to haul me in to jail if I am carrying, to search me and my car if has probable cause, and to beat me down if I resist. Those are his rights.

Carrying weed makes me a criminal. I don't have a lot of rights in that situation.

Keep that car clean, up to date and all the lights working, and if cops gets ya anyway be friendly and respectful and play the game... It works our better.

Now if I'm NOT carrying, than it's a different matter, but bucking up to cop instead of treating them like anyone else doing their job is just stupid. They don't mess with you unless your doing something stupid in the first place, and bucking up just makes it worse.
Saying you don't want to be searched doesn't give them just cause to search you...

and lol@ saying you would not like to be searched without probable cause is bucking up to a cop...no wonder pot's still fucking illegal in this country...I'd rather respect the forefathers of my country by respecting their willingness to give us protection.

you're not a criminal by wanting to assert your rights by any means whatsoever. I will NEVER IN MY LIFE consent to a search without probable cause(so long as I'm in America and protected by the bill of rights)

Fuck that shit. Just because we're only free to do what they tells us we're free to do doesn't mean that the constitution doesn't mean shit. It's innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent...WAY WAY too many of you have that ass backwards.

And for the record again, asserting your rights does not give them probable cause either. You may think it does for some reason, but it doesn't.

The reason we live in a police state is because of people like you who give the cops the right. I don't care if I have pot or not, but if I do have pot that gives me that much more of a reason to assert my rights. Why? Because I've been to jail, and it was because I was unaware and he told me that if I honest he could make it easier on me, boy was that a fucking lie. Six months probation and some fines later...I'd rather make it clear he doesn't have probable cause then once I go to court it will be made clear he violated my rights, if he chooses to do so.
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Saying you don't want to be searched doesn't give them just cause to search you...
Of course it doesn't. An he might even just let you drive off.

But all he has to do is say he smelled pot, he's got probable cause.

Or call out a K-9 unit, have it alert on command on the door, probable cause.

It may not be right, but a cop can get around your rights pretty easily if he wants to, and it'll probably hold up in court later. It's just wiser IMO not to give him reason to want to stop you in the first place, or reason to take you down if he does stop you.

To each his own man, just relating how I've gotten by 35 years without a bust, even getting caught red handed a few times. Do as ya will bro and good luck to ya. I've said all I'm gonna..
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i have friends and family that are in law enforcement and we often discuss this while i smoke and they drink and take an occasional toke what that guy did was a good thing keeping windows up locking door then whays found cant be submitted in court cause of illegal s&s. get a real lawyer not a public pretender remember he gets paiid by the people who arrested you so it in his best interest for you to go to jail so they will have the money to pay him.
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i was just busted yesterday for possesion.
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Yeah one time on a friday night I had just smoked a fat bowl in my car and then proceeded to drive home. i got caught up at a DUI checkpoint a few minutes later. so i'm like "oh fuck" the whole time, nervous as hell, rolling down my window to let it air out for 5 minutes or so...and when it's my turn to be questioned the officer noticed the smell of weed. he made me pull into a parking lot where officers searched my car briefly. he asked me if i had smoked any weed , i said YES, on my lunch break at work 6 hours ago ( a blatant lie--more like 20 minutes ago). He gave me a field sobriety test and I passed it . he told me i am "impaired but not intoxicated", whatever that means. I was really polite to that cop and he told me that if i hit someone and kill them i'd be charged with manslaughter and DUI--then the surprise. He said, "it's on you". and he let me go, to drive away in my car-- impaired, but not intoxicated.

I was so surprised and relieved because I had weed in my car which they did not find, a pipe in there that they did not find.... but the simple idea that he was a reasonable man made me feel like not every single police officer is a fucking Nazi.

Or maybe he felt sorry for me. Or maybe he was just too lazy to write me a ticket and arrest me.


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well me and my friends got pulled over yesterday...

he pulled the driver out of the car, not sure exactly what they talked about, and he allowed the car to be searched. god, well he ended up finding a bong, a bottle of jack daniels and a bag (like half an eighth) O yeah and i feel o so stupid, the officer told us to hold still as he talked to the driver, and they were gone for like 5 min, and i could have pretty easily reached down and grabbed my jacket which contained like 1/5 gram of keif left. but i didn't and he ended up finding it, god i feel sooo stupid i didn't do anything, all i had to do was put it in my shoe and i didn't i just locked up and sat there

now im just hoping i can learn from this and use different strategies for my advantage, and have the guts to not consent to a search.
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I've been to jail, and it was because I was unaware and he told me that if I honest he could make it easier on me, boy was that a fucking lie.
Haven't fallen for that since grade two when the teacher told me if I admitted to stealing this kids 'tazo' she would make this go a lot more easy. I guess by 'easy' they mean, 'won't have to argue for half an hour'.

Anyway, to people saying that you should just be nice and polite etc. I would only do this if the cop is nice in the first place. Mainly because if you are just looking to get yourself off the hook, you are ONLY getting yourself off. There's still millions more people just like you who need to get let off, and by protecting your rights you are fighting for them as well. And also for yourself when you get pulled over again.

Think about it, if everyone just covered their own asses and cowered in fear of the almighty popo, do you think politicians would ever even think about legalising weed? No, because nobody would even put forward the idea.

Got pulled over by this cop with my friend driving. It was the night before the last day of year 12. We were going to fuck up the school. This cop pulls us over even though there were like 2-3 other cars of people who had already fucked the school up and were now bailing. This guy is a total asshole! Comes up and says "what the fuck are you doin round here?"
"Just driving mate"
"Where you going to?"
"home"
"Why are you out here?"
"we just went to get some coke(drink lol)"
"Stop being fucken smartasses and tell me what the fuck you are doing"

He clearly wanted us to admit we were trashing the school. so I chimed in with

"nothing, we got some drink and we're going home, now we're not doing anything wrong! and stop swearing at us" haha

"Can you breathe into this" lol I know I got him off that topic now and he just wants to bust us for something so my friend breathes into the breathalyser thing, dunno if you have em in america, just tests your blood alcohol content.

He takes our names and lets us go.

By the way we had spray cans and rotten eggs and all heaps of shit but when they flashed their lights all we did was slow down, turn down the next street while subtly pushing the bags of stuff under our seats, then pull over. It also takes them a while to get out of the car most times. And it did this time so we had an opportunity to get it all hidden. They put their headlights on full beam so you have to kinda not move your body and just put your arm close to the side of the seat or wherever your hiding your shit.

Anyway that probably made no sense but I just wanted to share some thoughts. Give a bit of advice etc. This is a good thread keep it alive.
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well your correct, if you have the balls to assert your rights then thats great, more power to you. But if you want to avoid getting arrested then its ill advised. Judges are supposed to be non biased in their opinions but the reality of it is EVERYONE is biased in their opinions whether they try to or not. Most judges will look at the case and side more with the cop rather than the constitution unfortunately because the fact is most people who are up there in the legal system are against pot. Its possible to win that case but it would be incredibly difficult to do it....I mean you'd have to have a lawyer like OJ's to win something like that. If your not afraid to get a criminal record then it would be important to stand up to it but like a lot of good citizens in this World we have a hell of a lot to live for than loseing some of those rights. I would only fight for something if it heavily violated my freedoms. For instance, if I called the cops because someone stole my money and the cops beat the shit out of me because I bothered them, then I would go up in a riot and most certainly risk my own freedom and life for it but risking your life for this is like risking your life when someone stole 30 dollars from you. Its better to just be submissive about it.



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I know its for training purposes, but FUCK this shit pisses me off.. I cant stand even to watch the BULLSHIT those fuckers pull..

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Watched it 3 times, to get it in my head. :] It's an amazing video, and thanks for stickying it.
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i for one, drive far far better when im dirty or intox and try to follow all rules i know... that gives u the best layer of protection: Don't do shit to have a cop on your ass! drive @ speed limits, lower music in neighborhoods or vacant/silent streets, have your lights/stickers and tires checked routinely, if u feel u r swerving out of control just pull over, find something to eat and that will just kill the high instantly! then get on
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I was so surprised and relieved because I had weed in my car which they did not find, a pipe in there that they did not find.... but the simple idea that he was a reasonable man made me feel like not every single police officer is a fucking Nazi.

Or maybe he felt sorry for me. Or maybe he was just too lazy to write me a ticket and arrest me.
the first cop ever to pull me over was one of these non-nazi guys hahaha I felt so good about the encounter i had since he said "boy, I can smell the alcohol from your mouth" and i wasn't even 21 plus i was driving @ 4 am and 5 miles or so over speed limit... i ended up passing the soberity test, and nothing on me with a clean record, so he came to my car and told me i can go... was lucky he didnt force me on a breathalyzer cuz i didnt know at the time i can say no to that as well!!


to me after buncha google searches, it means that he knows u have smoked/drank something and thus u r under its effect, but since u passed the soberity test and they "searched and found nothing" it was perhaps no good use of his time and systems time to process u when they aint got anything legally against u


i think this will explain it better: there is a legal limit for alcohol in system and driving... however if u are below the legal limit, u will be considered impaired but not fully intoxicated
further reading Impaired Driving - Why You Should Never Drink and Drive
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good stuff here! if not on here already, "ask ed mj law-dont get busted" great book, highly recommend it, stuff we all know, but its good to go over every once in awhile! my tip----never admit to anything!, a good lawyer can help you GREATLY! if busted and you don't have money, don't be afraid call a few lawyers and see if they can work with you, example; i know of a similar situation where a guy got some great help from a 'good honest one lol' in exchange for landscaping!
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being aware of your rights is important, but what you must also be aware of is the fact that a police officer can arrest you for a whole number of things perfectly legally. In my profession as an EMT, i have had patients who NEEDED to go to the hospital but refused where a normal patient would. to give you an idea it was something along the lines of "you understand that leaving your medical condition untreated or unchecked could have severe consequences including death" in other words it was clear that he will die if he didnt go to the hospital. a police officer had arrested the man under 51-50 stating that if he agreed to the fact that he will die, he is mentally unstable and a danger to him/herself and was arrested and taken to the hospital. police have much more legal authority than most people realize. and what that officer did was perfectly legal.in the same way you can be arrested for trying to commit suicide, you can be arrested to agreeing that you will die if you dont go to the hospital because its suicide.
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I think you're reading it wrong. If I were arrested for pot, I'd want the conversations I'd have with police to be taped. I can think of few things scarier than me being in court with only my word vs policemens' word... and you know there'd be more than one policemen against you.

Obama supports cannabis decriminalization, but now that he's taking down Hillarytron and has a chance of winning he's toned it down and actively supports medical cannabis alone. None of the candidates that might actually get elected will be better than that. And frankly, even acceptance of medical cannabis is a shit ton better than what we've got now. Baby steps is the way to win.

I know he's not Ron Paul, but RP didn't have a chance of being elected. Just saying the truth we all know... for whatever reason, it wasn't gonna happen, now or ever. Realistically speaking, Obama's the next best choice.

I'm a chemical engineer. I can say that if you wrap pot in plenty of zip lock bags, the mass diffusion rate of pot through the bags will be too low for anyone to smell it. You might want to consider putting wrapped pot inside a bag full of water or something, and maybe freezing it too... never tried that though, but I'm pretty sure it'll work. Chemistry is fun!

The better choice here would be to leave it at home, or take a tiny bit you can swallow... like other people said. I really liked the video though, but I doubt a cop will take kindly to anyone asserting their rights.
what you can also do is vacuum seal you marijuana. i've done this and can vouch that it DOES work. I had recently gone on a 12 hour flight (ugh..) and i took 2 MMJ edibles with me. i had vacuum sealed them and put them in my carryon with a couple of chips and other snacks for the flight. it didnt set off any alarms for the woman behind the xray or the drug dogs because it looked like snacks for the flight to the woman and the dog couldnt smell them through the vacuum seal. i dont know about how good those ziploc vacuum bags are but i used a vacuum sealing machine from where i used to work.
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Beat them like this, say no to consent dont move around fast, and use a good odor elimination spray to get rid of the smell.....

I use bioextreme, it is the fuking best stuff ever to get rid of the smell. I even beat the dog's nose with it. It is supposed to be used for hunting but it is the best damn stuff I have ever used, dont smell like nothing so no suspicions on strong odor or cover odor and it gets rid of the smell instantly for good.

Use it at home to, hell I even use it on the kids football and soccer gear google it they have a web site I buy it from its cheap and damn well worth it.
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