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How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
OK, every stoner's dream.
I want to open my own Co-Op/Dispensory in Southern California. How would I go about it?
Yes, I have a recomendation for MMJ.
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Dec-07-2007, 01:58
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i think you have to apply for a licence through the county
you can may alot of money but in the end you will most likely get raided by The DEA and they dont fuck around there shuting down all of the cannabis clubs... ONE BY ONE
but fuck it 
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first, set aside a few hundred thousand dollars ... that will be for your lawyers' retainer fees and Bail ... then, apply to your County District Attorney for a Caregiver's Permit, and count the days until they come and take you away ... pretty simple, actually ... I suppose that sounds sarcastic, but that really is what it has become ... when you allow street thugs to open storefronts for selling drugs, somebody needs to step in (and, they are, unfortunately the rare legitimate supplier gets caught up, too) ... 
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I want to open up a deliveyr service. Not your typical just like everybody else delivery, but a super delivery co-op. I know most store fronts get nailed, but I read that the DEA is slowing down the raids and also if you are doing deliveyr only that the dea ignores you.
Also, lets say I get a year or two out of it, SCREW IT! It'll be worth it and it'll be fun!
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I want to open up a deliveyr service. Not your typical just like everybody else delivery, but a super delivery co-op. I know most store fronts get nailed, but I read that the DEA is slowing down the raids and also if you are doing deliveyr only that the dea ignores you.
Also, lets say I get a year or two out of it, SCREW IT! It'll be worth it and it'll be fun!
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a "year or two" of prison would be "worth it, and fun" ??? ... Dude, you need to get out more 
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From what I've read, when a store despensory gets raided, they just take your product and you don't go to jail if you agree not to open up again.
From that, yes it would be worth it.
If there is any jail time, it still may be worth it depending on how much money you've made.
Now let's say I make 500K in six months and they want me to serve let's say 3 to 6 months in FEDERAL PRISON, not state or county, Club Fed, I'd gamble.
Would you go to federal prison for 6 months for 500K?
I've been in Federal Prison for 6 months before and it was easy. It was a complete breeze, just don't mess with anyone and RESPECT EVERYONE.
Dunno if I'd do a year for 500K. Six months without a problem.
For a cool (clean no taxes) Million, I'd do a year. Even 18 months. Absolute minumum security, my own cell, one conjical visit per month, one family visit per month and $$ on my books I'd do a two years.
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From what I've read, when a store despensory gets raided, they just take your product and you don't go to jail if you agree not to open up again.
From that, yes it would be worth it.
If there is any jail time, it still may be worth it depending on how much money you've made.
Now let's say I make 500K in six months and they want me to serve let's say 3 to 6 months in FEDERAL PRISON, not state or county, Club Fed, I'd gamble.
Would you go to federal prison for 6 months for 500K?
I've been in Federal Prison for 6 months before and it was easy. It was a complete breeze, just don't mess with anyone and RESPECT EVERYONE.
Dunno if I'd do a year for 500K. Six months without a problem.
For a cool (clean no taxes) Million, I'd do a year. Even 18 months. Absolute minumum security, my own cell, one conjical visit per month, one family visit per month and $$ on my books I'd do a two years.
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well if you think its easy then do it.
but when you do get in trouble your bail will be very high, also when you go trail you dont get to state the the marijuana you where selling was for medicinal purposes, so the the jugde and the jury think your an other person just selling weed to make money, and thats why cannabis clubs get raided, cuz PEOPLE GEt too greedy.. BUt yes can maKe alot of money but i wouldnt want to take that risk!!

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first time I was in jail, about 1968, it took me about 30 seconds to remember all the pussy is 'out there' ... figured I'd avoid jail from that point on ...  P.S., like they say in the joint: "fight, fuck, or climb a tree" (and, there aint no trees in prison) 
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Dec-08-2007, 10:37
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no if u go to norml.org i read on there feds r cutting down on busts of medical clubs so ya idk i thought i just throw that out there
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no if u go to norml.org i read on there feds r cutting down on busts of medical clubs so ya idk i thought i just throw that out there
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NORML needs to read the newspapers out here in sunny California 
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Sure Tony, please be just another greedy motherfucker looking for a quick buck while FUCKING EVERYTHING UP FOR THOSE WHO RUN LEGITIMATE CO-OP'S AND MAKING THE LEGAL BATTLES ON BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL FRONTS EVEN HARDER TO WIN WHILE HURTING THE OVERALL REPUTATION OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
Don't take this too personally but your approach and intent to get rich is exactly why we still have the feds running around and innocent people are convicted in federal court.
PLEASE, understand the meaning of the words 'REASONABLE COMPENSATION FOR SERVICES'. To me this means making a living....not getting rich.
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Dude? Why is it wrong to get rich? It's supply & demand. People in the IE demand a good co-op and I may be to supply them. What's wrong with making a profit off what I'm selling?
Sorry, I don't love weed that much to devote my time & money and risk prison without getting paid.
I'm compassionate and I care about people but I'm not going to risk my life to help others without a benefit for me. Heck, a Fireman who puts his life on the line would't be doing it without the pension. A Doctor who cares about people wouldn't be so caring without the money.
Didn't know I'd be ruining it for everyone if I tried to open a Co-Op and make a few bucks off of it.
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''gotta spend money to make money''
hope you have the funds to start up a buisness in socal
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But that's the thing.. you're not trying to make a few bucks, you're trying to make a lot, and given the current legal environment that's a disastrous recipe' for everyone. Also, keep in mind that any federal law suit is typically accompanied by assett forfeiture which basically means that you can lose your house/land or whatever you own. Or if you're renting then the landlord stands the same risk.
Now if you want to help some people and make a normal living then I think it's marvelous and I'm behind you all the way.
Again, don't take it personally, I do understand your motivation, and if marijuana was legal and taxed as it should be then competition would drive prices down like on everything else and you'd be able to make a regular living and without the risk.... hopefully some day.
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As a medical marijuana patient I see absolutely nothing wrong with a co-op running their business to make money, personally, I say God bless the free market. Free market is what allows a person to run a large business that can process consistent high quality products for consumers to purchase. I really don't care if the people working at the co-op I visit are making millions of dollars, as long as I can get high quality medicine at a reasonable price, I will continue to visit.
To Tony:
My personal feeling is that if you really want to do this, do it, I don't care if your motivation is to bring safe access to the dried out Inland Empire or to make a lot of cash, I believe you deserve every penny you profit off of. However, I will again recommend you don't actually open a co-op if you honestly believe the chances of being arrested are low. Opening up in the IE would put you right in the cross hairs of the DEA, making you almost as wanted as Marc Emery.
Don't be stupid, get a damn good attorney before you start anything. Not some Larry H Parker lawyer, a real one, one that will cost you a lot of money, that is what you need. If you don't hire the best lawyer available then I don't want to hear your sob story in the newspaper about how you are being unfairly sent to prison. You have been warned and I gave you examples with the links above.
I am not going to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, that is up to you, but just want you to fully realize what you are thinking about getting involved with. In my personal opinion you seem a bit naive, which is why I highly suggest consulting with an attorney rather than a bunch of pot heads on an internet forum site.
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I'm not from Ca. I only get info from what I read, although I'm all for someone making an honest buck, there is a predatory, greed driven, tone in Tony's posts. I became a cannabis fan in the 60s, things were very different then, the quality wasn't as good, but people were eager to share, when you scored, you tried out the product before the sell. I just would hope that people that provide mmj as meds to people that are ill would not gouge patients like the big drug companies do. I tend to agree with Bulster, there are too many parasites out there,  and to prey on sick people is really bad karma.
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If I were to open up a Co-Op, I'd cap at $75 an 1/8th and deliveries would be a minimum order of a hundred. Not outrageous & not expensive. Seriously ill patients would gre free meds of course.
The only way I'd get into it is if I made more then 25% profit and was able to get super serious weed. If I can't provide top shelf buds (heh, nice name, Top Shelf Buds) I wouldn't do it.
Sure some would complain about $75 an 1/8th but most would be thrilled not to wait around for a delivery guy or not to drive through L.A.'s wonderful traffic to get meds.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with starting a business STRICTLY for the profit. There is nothing wrong with wanting to get rich.
My grand dad once gave me some excellent advice: If you see a man selling bags of his own shit for five dollars each, is he stupid? I answered YES he is. The old man told me, No he is not. The person who buys that bag of shit is the stupid one.
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If I were to open up a Co-Op, I'd cap at $75 an 1/8th and deliveries would be a minimum order of a hundred. Not outrageous & not expensive. Seriously ill patients would gre free meds of course.
The only way I'd get into it is if I made more then 25% profit and was able to get super serious weed. If I can't provide top shelf buds (heh, nice name, Top Shelf Buds) I wouldn't do it.
Sure some would complain about $75 an 1/8th but most would be thrilled not to wait around for a delivery guy or not to drive through L.A.'s wonderful traffic to get meds.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with starting a business STRICTLY for the profit. There is nothing wrong with wanting to get rich.
My grand dad once gave me some excellent advice: If you see a man selling bags of his own shit for five dollars each, is he stupid? I answered YES he is. The old man told me, No he is not. The person who buys that bag of shit is the stupid one.
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thats real big-hearted of ya, when 1/4 oz of excellent smoke is going for about $80 with a decent hookup in my area of CA ... 
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Tony - There are already about a dozen delivery services in the IE. Prices for good MMJ start at $50/8th and go up to about $75 for the really good stuff. There are delivery services that open at 8:00 am, and services that deliver until 12:00 pm. There is absolutely nothing new or revolutionary or "super" about what you want to do. If you want to open a delivery service, more power to you; I wish you the best of luck. But I doubt you'll be the Sam Walton of MMJ in the IE. What your are proposing is simply not unique.
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