the lit end of a joint burns at a minimum 400c it is 10mm wide and 10mm deep.
thc vaporises at 200c.
i take the first deep breath on a new joint,the thc in the first 30mm of the joint vaporises(because the tip burns at 400 while thc vaps at 200) and i inhale,then i pass the dutchie to my friend.
he inhales and smells+tastes the marijuana which i also smell+taste.
the thc hits me but does it hit him as much?.i say no because if thc vaporises at 200 surely the first toke is the strongest(taste and potentancy )
SO does a joint work at 50% strength after the first toke?or have i just been smoking to much;-)

You have been smoking too much, that's for sure. however, i vaporize for the exact reason you've stated. It tastes better and gives me a better high.

lol^^^^^

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All these numbers!

I just smoke and eat man, haha.

all i know is weed + fire = smoke

the less hits that have been taken from weed smoking the more potent the hit was. Now with joints your sucking the smoke throught the rest of the joint. This coats all the weed in a layer of resin, the resin contains thc and other smokable products that may not be healthy. So as you smoke more from a joint, there is more resin building up on the weed behind the lit section. As you smoke this you get a harsher hit, but with a considerable amount of THC on it as well. the 400 degree temperature you state is only partially right because from the moment the smoke leaves the combustion site it starts cooling, i dont think we all inhale 400 degree smoke into our lungs, that would be painful. So you get higher with the greens hits, but still get high from the resiny hits as well.

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I vaporize with fire, actually. I hold my glass bowl sideways, stuff some grinded up bud in there, and hold a flame about an inch under the bowl. After about 10 seconds the bud starts to release vapors, and once you get the hang of it you can keep it just at the right temperature so the buds turn brown, but never actually burn.

The taste is so much better then burning the weed, in my opinion. It is like the difference between eating or smelling a nicely cooked steak and eating/smelling a piece of old charcoal.

Plus I can hold in the hits for 30 seconds a pop without fear of diseasing my lungs.

Same here lol

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that is why pipe and bongs and bubblers and vaporizors are FTW.
also that is why if you smoke like 3/4 of your joint then decide your done, and then smoke the last 1/4 later, you dont get near as much thc

holy hell man
you're thinking about it wayyyy too much, just smoke it

to add, wouldn't it make more sense if the joint would be more potent once its almost finished, cause of all the previous smoke with thc in it passing through it?

just a thought

Yes, joints work the entire way to the roach, as many as I've had I would have realized if I was only as high as a few hits instead of an entire joint. Acutally, the resin coating the paper and bud makes them more potent at the end.

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I was hoping this was mentioned. I also notice as the joint burns the bud left down the J gets coated with resin, all the way down to the roach, and this makes those hits pretty strong..

now ive been thinking about this,you lot say resin do you mean tar?or do you mean thc crystals?if you mean tar you dont get high of any amount of tar,if you mean that thc vaporizes at 200 and then solidifies when it cools that cant be right,it must be wrong.
IF thc returns to a solid state when it cools(as in the joint,as in your mouth as in your throat as in your lungs)then surely a vaporizer balloon would crust up inside as that dosent get anywhere near 400 degrees(which is the outside of a burning joint tip(the centre of the burning tip is nearer to 600)vaps are usually set at 200 and if thc solidifies when cool it would cool in the balloon just like in a water bong or long pipe.
i reckon thc stays a vapor after being heated until it can bind to an oil(fatty) subtance(your brain,the oil in cakes or maybe coconut oil for canna capsules)so i stll think i'm right!
(i'm not a scientist type just a stupid stoner with to much time on his hands!!!)

and another thing,a joints worth of thc in a roach by this reasoning?.so why dont you suck on the roach then,i'll guarantee you do not get high!

Yes THC does collect in the resined weed as in TAR resin not CANNABIS resin. Joints work the whole way but the question is is it worth smoking all the other shit in a roach to get what little THC built up? PROBABLY NOT. I dont smoke roaches its way to unhealthy. Just smoke the first 3/4 of your joint youll get high enough. If your smoking perfectly cured homegrown then smoke the whole thing. I am sure most of you are not though.

Your not crazy, I was just thinking about the same thing a week ago and it has still been a big question for me as well.

My guess is that it wouldn't take out all of the thc behind the amber dissapear until it gets to the last 1/4" of roach. That is why the smoke burns your throught more when it gets short, becase that last 1/4" is smoke that is above 200c.

Thats my guesstimate.

When you smoke a joint, the THC bonds with the tar in the smoke which passes through the rest of the weed and gets stuck to it. When you burn the weed that has this tar on it you're also burning the THC in it. So yes, a joint will work until the very end. I've smoked many roaches in my lifetime and i've always gotten very high off of them.

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Whether or not you believe that what coats the end of the joint has thc or not is completely irrelevent. There is still weed in the joint that you paid for. Go ahead and try and tell me that it won't get you high. Throw it away and waste your money if you want to.

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I save roaches to stuff in my bong. They get me nice and high every time. I'm no scientist either, but I would say that is scientific proof that it is still potent with THC. Whether it is from built up resin (which I'm sure is part of it) or just the leftover cannabis, it still seems to work pretty darn good. I don't waste my herb. Which is also why I usually don't smoke joints, because they are so damn harsh at the end.

Yes, the weed itself acts as a smoke filter, the first hit off a joint is nice, because there's a lot of weed there to filter it, as it gets smoked it's less efficient at filtering the smoke. But just as a cigarette filter with weed in place of a cigarette, the filter absorbs much of the thc (I can't even cop a buzz off a full cigarette stuffed with weed instead of tobacco, cause of the filter) just as the other weed absorbs much of the THC. The roaches are potent as shit let me tell you, that's why many a stoner will save up their roaches to roll another "Generation Joint" a very potent joint from the tar and resined up weed from joints past.

Another viable argument would be that vaporizers would in turn, also cause all the THC to burn up (as many go well over 200 degrees) right away (by burn up I mean vaporize), but that's not the case as a whip style packed up can be hit with potent vapor coming out many a time before the THC fully diminishes, thus the hot vapor being inhaled from the end of a joint going on down through a solid insulator (not just air) and filter would in turn not consume much if any of the THC as deposits from the smoke passing through pass of a compensating amount which in the end gives a roach that's contents are more potent than the previous weed (which could be why it's so harsh actually, along with tar, actual resin and kief is murder on the lungs, even kill weed can give you a coughing fit).




Case closed.

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i don't have a clue if thats true or not but i find a roach will get me a much more clearer high than just smoking half of a joint.. try a test for yourself try this.. smoke 2 joints and put both out half way, bust up those roaches from the previous joints that you now have, roll 1 joint and smoke it.. i am sure as fuck you will get more baked off that 1 joint than you did the second 2 put together and burnt weedas you little ones call it is second generation weed in other words a retarded stone

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i smoke my roach before i smoke my roach... then i smoke my joint !


WARNING !! i suck at speling !! WARNING

If you think roaches aren't powerful, then you've been smoking crack, not weed. I've smoked many roaches, and generation joints, and man, those things really knock you. One time when I smoked a second generation joint, I was so stoned my legs were shaking and I didn't think I could walk.

yeah man i've smoked second generation blunts before and they fucking destroyed me. Another thing that gets me fucked up is taking the leftover weed out of a roach and just packing it into a bong - one bowl of that and i'm good for a few hours.

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a few days before 420 me and some friends smoked some joints, and ended up having 3 roaches left over. On 420 i then proceeded to pack them into a bowl and got 2 bowls worth, and i got smashed into a wall with that high.

a few days later, we rolled this really fat blunt, it was so fat we had to leave 1/3 of it unsmoked. I waited until the next day, and i smoked the rest of it, it had me the highest i have ever been, the world was actually spinning, i would say that if i can say i got too high, that would be it, but after experiencing that, you can never get too high.

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Maybe your friend has a higher tolerance than you ^^