If this is just a civil case it won't have as much meaning. It will allow collectives to sue and recover costs from the DEA but won't stop them.

Better than nothing. OK maybe it's not a large step, but it's pretty big compared to what has been going on.

It's coming...

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I agree but hitting a govt agency in the pocket effects their bottom line. They will at least think twice about raids. A presidential order could also stop the DEA from entering bank! Money is a big issue these days! but what do I know Im sure the DEA has more money to wait out a lawsuit than most banks would! Its a crappy world!

I always wondered that... do the employees face punishment for having a job or do they just lose their job?

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It's a step in the right direction but I think the Raich case is more important. If the Raich case is upheld in the Supreme Court then it could open the door to complete legalization on a state by state basis. Now that is HUGE!!!

If drugs are illegal on a federal level through interstate commerce then keep it intrastate commerce and you don't break federal law right? As long as you can keep supply and demand within the state then the feds can't touch you. Period.

Somebody tell me if I'm way off here because I'm high or if this really makes sense

Blessed be ~

It seems that somebody forgot to tell that to the feds.

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"If they think it's the law and they have all the guns..." And that's an authoritarian approach. So much for freedom.

"If drugs are illegal on a federal level through interstate commerce then keep it intrastate commerce and you don't break federal law right?"

Wrong! Although logic would seem to dictate that you would be OK, the Supremes saw it another way. They said basically that if you grew wheat for your OWN use, it interfered with interstate commerce, therefore it could be regulated. This covers it.

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Doesn't make sense to me either! But then, neither does MMJ prohibition!


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u know, this can pretty much be the salt poured into your beer bottle, a few high profile cases is all thats needed to stir things up and push for some kinda change...

DEA is there cuz its a money maker, it keeps hundreds of thousands of jobs.

to me, the only reason we still have marijuana prohibition is that if it ceases to exist, alot of money will not be made, many police-dea-doj jobs will be lost!
sure they may switch their focus to real crime and hard drugs, but i think if marijuana is cleared from illegality, we will have surplus of personnel and assets for drug wars! almost all other drugs are purely imported goods. with exceptions of mushrooms or piote, things like these...

so hitting the purse will hurt them... especially if it goes into large sums or gets to supreme court, unless ofcourse none of these cases make it thru

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Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".

fuck the policE!

Hey Granny~ Does this mean I'm interfering with interstate commerce by growing my own food too? Can I go to jail for that too? Seems a bit ridiculous for "Big Daddy" to make me buy stuff. Is that really constitutional or is the judiciary just ignoring the constitution too? just wondering.

Blessed be~

Makes no sense to me! But it seems to me we have a double standard for homegrown tomatoes and homegrown cannabis!

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Yes, I believe hypocrisy is a prerequisite to be an american nowadays.

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The police are generally just good regular people like you and me.

For them to keep their jobs they must enforce archaic asinine laws.

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I have come to conclude that no1 can truly generalize "police" as anything, bad or good... they are far too many of them of both kinds and in different areas they may be different types of personalities who wanna "enforce some crap" they may not agree with @ heart to others

I generally find some1 who goes to police for with above motivation to be among the bad cops. some1 who seeks position of authority, rather to have real sympathy for the system, laws, tax money, safety or the people, such a cop would be outspoken about marijuana violations and would join the resistance for while doing the rest of his duties and we have quite a number of these cops.

again I have no statistics, but my own exp and what u hear around or see in media.

however, fuck the DEA! any1 and all of them from janitor to scientist to officers! they are the real scumbags!

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-Göring, 2nd in command of Hitler

Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".

An accountant took down Capone. I have no problem taking out the crooks in Washington DC the same way.

heres a link to the co-op who got it rite "FREE MEDICINE"
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and here I sit with no meds I need a ride to the coast lets go...

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those days are over. american public must buy stories that are already out there and mount pressure on these crooks, but this seems not to be happening with all that much of a force or speed.

there are plenty of evidence against this unjust situation and perpetrators who keep living on this mess and profiting from it (LE & DEA + justice/prison system as a whole) they are too powerful and a lot of people are careless about MMJ, the result is the situation we currently have regarding MMJ

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Whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship, the people can always B brought 2 the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All U have 2 do is tell them they R being attacked & denounce the pacifists 4 lack of patriotism & exposing the country 2 danger. It works the same way in any country.

-Göring, 2nd in command of Hitler

Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".

Please rephrase your comment. That one made about as much sense as shoving an Easter Egg up one's bunghole.

come again?

if i didnt make myself clear here it is: Too many whistles have been blown on this issue... just check around these forums to find the stories... even congress has pressured DEA to avoid intervening with medical MJ research without much luck... cuz the majority of people dont care about this issue... at best they say they dont have a problem with MMJ in a poll or they support it or whatever, but will they actually do something about it to change the situation?! will they take any "action"?

I think very few compared to the total population do so...

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-Göring, 2nd in command of Hitler

Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".

No, you didn't make yourself clear and you still aren't. If I understand you correctly you're saying nevermind the civil lawsuit approach because in your opinion nobody really cares anyway?

Uhhhhh, right.

what i said was that there have been civil lawsuits b4 and even current ones, and government manages to force its way thru the court somehow and no1 cares, no1 cries in the public for it but only our minority community

and i didnt say nevermind it... if thats how u wanna read it, read it that way. i cant change your perception of my views, my views however are not represented by your perception, they are different

what i meant was that in Capone's time and day, people were outraged, people cared about catching this crook and his kind... nowadays as long as every individual has what HE/SHE WANTS in life, they really tend not to care about other people struggle.

yeah, theyy may sympathize with ya in a casual convo, but when it comes to real action, hardly any1 does anything. only the activists from mmj and mj community do so and still they have a hard time getting the word out, media hardly offers it and people rarely demand to hear it... they like it how it is, like in many other issues like our national debt that everyone seems to be just fine with

and that 1 accountant (although in a highly political situation that came to his aid) did deliver the deadly blow... no blows seem to be deadly enough for the crooks in the system these days... i donno how u can have a couple of large organizations and ACLU and bunch of people united in one cause and still get to nowhere as we have not

What i meant is in fact this: people should care, we as the community that is interested in this matter should educate everyone around us about this and fight all the ignorance and bigotry along with misconceptions... without doing so, hardly any lawsuit will get anywhere... like this lawsuit... it made headlines for 1 day in major media at its best... while in comparison OJ simpson's case is out there everyday... people want to know about a celebrity or some1 famous and his fate... its all a show business, what sells more is on the spotlight and whats controversial is avoided. we should change this on the side of these lawsuits... otherwise the cases can be killed with ease given the illegal power and methods of our federal system (as u see govt here has tried to file a motion to dismiss this lawsuit and only a judge who has had some guts has prevented that, some other weaker judge might have allowed the case to be dropped)

I will not comment on this to clear my stance anymore. if u get it, u get it, if not, no point for me to make it any clearer than it is now. and pardon my language barrier if thats what prevented u from understanding me, u know, i'm not born n raised in America but I do my best not to sound like a foreigner, even in text.

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-Göring, 2nd in command of Hitler

Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".

Buy a thesaurus. Your obvious lack of comprehensive understanding is not a great reason to act like a 4th grader. Perhaps reading again, and again may finally sink in for ya, if not...take a few reading and comprehension courses...
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Good luck with your Capone escapade!

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Ok, it is rather obvious to me that both of you lack a sense of humor as well as the ability to express yourselves in a halfway cogent manner. Forget I asked for clarification.

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cool posted link

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