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Old Nov-20-2008, 13:13
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Yes weed is a god compared to aspirin... and even to vicadin! I got my wisdom teeth pulled and it hurt like hell afterwards, than i took about two Vicadin ES's and the pain was about the same... I know your not supposed to smoke after getting teeth pulled but I smoked a fat bowl out of my bong anyways... THE PAIN WENT COMPLETLY AWAY and i did not have a single problem with my teeth...

Simply put pot is the best none-addictive medicine... FOR ANYTHING!

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Old Nov-20-2008, 16:44
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I love smoking weed. I have a nice 4 ft glass bong call her Deb

A friend of mine came over the other day and we tried something to see if water will filter smoke from the weed. If you put a piece of a paper towel or a napkin inbetween your lips and your bong, pipe or joint, whever you do to get high and draw your hit through the napkin, after a couple of hits look at the yellow and brown residue that the napkin filters outNASTY

I'm not going to quit smoking but WOW we are inhaleing all that crap into our lungs
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Hell, only around 2000 people die per year from heroin overdoses. And that is in an environment where people are often buying a drug of unknown purity and dosage in a black market environment and a substance with serious overdose potential.
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One of the main problems medical science has with cannabis is the smoking aspect. Go figure.
Picking up on what lead said......the main reason......according to my cancer doctor....is that mj MUST be standardized before it will even be considered safe to use for immune compromised patients. That's number one and it goes back to what lead said about the "poorness" of the product. As a lung cancer patient I can guarantee you that mj smoke irritates the lungs. I've tried it myself so won't be bothered to answer q's or argue with folks who really in no way have ever been involved with mmj and/or a serious illness. For the record I am recovering alcoholic who almost died during rehab 14 years ago and now face (I'm told) a very shortened life due to lung cancer. Everyone else who's been through more raise your hand and I will honestly listen to what you have to say. The rest is just chatter.

Don't get me wrong....I'm not saying mj CAUSED my cancer....cigerettes did and that's been firmly established. But don't tell me that dragging shit into your lungs.......especially those who BUY rather than grow their own......is somehow healthy or even JUST OK in ANY situation.

I read an article about a cancer patient who died from a fungus in the weed they ingested....mostly due to being immmune-compromised. And when you buy it......do you know who grew it? What they used? Are there bugs or molds in it? How do you know its even safe to smoke or use at all?? What about pesticides and when were they last put on your weed?

All these things would have to be solved before it would REALLY be accepted medically and much of the baloney that surrounds cannabis comes from us users ourselves. The silliness of statements like 'it's completely harmlesss" and "it cures EVERYTHING" do NOT help our cause, believe me.
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MUST be standardized before it will even be considered safe
WAMM has been cloning plants to get consistent results through trial and error and patient feedback to establish what strains work best. Your doctor works for the AMA, what else would they say?

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Chapter 7 - THERAPEUTIC USE OF CANNABIS

There are more than 60 therapeutic compounds in cannabis that are healing agents in medical and herbal treatments. The primary one is THC, and the effectiveness of therapy is directly proportionate to the herb’s potency or concentration of THC.

Lung Cleaner & Expectorant
Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.

Therapeutic Emphysema Potential
Medical research indicates that light cannabis smoking might be useful for a majority of mild emphysema victims. It would improve the quality of life for millions of sufferers and extend their life spans.

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Killing bacteria with cannabis Aug 29

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That's number one and it goes back to what lead said about the "poorness" of the product.
More bunk. Ignorance can be cured. Poorness depends on using the proper medications. First, leaves are not smokable with only 30% THC. Or sticks and stems. So much for government grown schwagg. Buyers clubs use only buds. No problem with quality assurance. More hype because there just has to be something wrong with it, it's illegal! Nixon lied.

Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1

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irritates the lungs
It is supposed too in order to expectorate the toxins. Only the large airways, not the small. But having lung cancer getting irritation is a tad bias that everyone would suffer. Ganja is a preventive. Maybe a cure.

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Don't get me wrong....I'm not saying mj CAUSED my cancer....cigerettes did and that's been firmly established. But don't tell me that dragging shit into your lungs.......especially those who BUY rather than grow their own......is somehow healthy or even JUST OK in ANY situation.
Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew In '74
The Madrid study marks only the second time that THC has been administered to tumor-bearing animals. In 1974, researchers at the Medical College of Virginia, who had been funded by the National Institutes of Health to find evidence that marijuana damages the immune system, found instead that THC slowed the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice -- lung and breast cancer, and a virus-induced leukemia. The DEA quickly shut down the Virginia study.

You are wrong. Blaming Ganja for ignorance of buyers not growing, what? Dude, Ganja is or it is not, period. No victims then either they used schwagg or leaves or male plants but it is not Ganja buds. So after ten thousand years of use you might think the Biz Czar could come up with one or two actual victims. With real names and addresses. You have it in your head its bad smoke or all smoke is bad and all the science in the world won't change that, or would anyone want to. You have to decide and you should be fair to yourself and decide after an informed decision. Satevex is atomizing a plant extract and former ass x DEA Barthwell is selling it. The same quotes were given by her before she got the job. Still pushing the bad smoke to Canada, leaving her product as the only answer. Thats why they call it Fascism, Government business leaving out the individual entrepreneurs. Unkle Scam patented some cannabinoids. For preaching no medical value 40 years that seems rather odd.

Con Flicts of Interest Bush Barthwell & Drugs

Health regulators have sent an uncompromising message that smoked cannabis will not be approved for use by MS sufferers, leaving the way open for GW's under-the-tongue spray version of the drug.

Former Deputy Drug Czar Andrea Barthwell is the new spokesperson for getting GW Pharmaceuticals' Sativex approved for use in the United States. Bayer and GW Pharmaceuticals announce marketing agreement on pioneering new cannabis-based treatment.

"The people who are advancing marijuana as a medicine are perpetuating a cruel hoax that exploits our compassion for the sick. They are using patients' pain and suffering in an attempt to change America's drug control policy. Marijuana is a crude plant product that most definitely is not a medicine."
Andrea Barthwell - Former Deputy Drug Czar (Bush II)


Government patents cannabinoids? No Medical Value?

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I read an article about a cancer patient who died from a fungus in the weed they ingested
Come on, that old shit. I thought this might be a challenge. Dude contaminants were cured decades ago with simple heat treatments before toking. If you can't swallow pills smoke is an effective way to get medicine into the system. And again, no one was harmed by tobacco before chemicals were added to cigarettes. Not added to Ganja. To disregard this nuisance to drug worriers is false and shows desperation trying to find something to justify you not smoking. Don't. It ain't like it's addictive or something. But why anyone would try to stop me is beyond reason.

Microbiological contaminants of marijuana by J. M. McPartland
Vermont Alternative Medicine, 53 Washington Street, Middlebury, VT 05753, USA.

Levitz and Diamond (1991) suggested baking marijuana in home ovens at 150o C, for five minutes before smoking. Oven treatment killed conidia of A. fumigatus, A. flavus and A. niger, and did not degrade the active component of marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).

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All these things would have to be solved
They were, and they are good points for potential users with problems. Besides drinking Bang you can eat it and I've heard of suppositories. But it is a long way from reefer madness theories. Now go ask your doctor why he wasn't taught about the Cannabinoid system and the THC receptors and transmitters in everyone. Or the various cannabinoids with only Delta 9 getting you high. The only one used in fake Merdeinol. Atomizers release the lower temp cannabinoids. But that doesn't mean getting high is harmful or eliminate the properties of opening smaller bronchial airways for Asthma patients. Or as stated the expectorant preventing cigarettes from landing on delicate tissue causing the acid environment to breed cancer. Get your body alkaline dude.

Lingering THC Metabolites
Government's Own Experts Say That Metabolites Are
Non-Toxic, Harmless Residue

Lung Damage Studies
Not One Documented Case of Cancer
However, unlike tobacco smoke, cannabis smoke does not cause any changes in the small airways, the area where tobacco smoke causes long term and permanent damage. Additionally, a tobacco smoker will smoke 20 to 60 cigarettes a day, while a heavy marijuana smoker may smoke five to seven joints a day, even less when potent high-quality flower tops are available.

Studies the Feds Don’t Talk About

The Coptic Study (1981)
Some Studies the Feds Don't Talk About
No Harm to Human Brain or Intelligence

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The silliness of statements like 'it's completely harmlesss" and "it cures EVERYTHING" do NOT help our cause, believe me
No one said it cured everything. Ignorance is alive and well as we can see. Denying or speculating reefer madness "theory" is what hurts the cause. Whatever "the cause" is. I bring research. take it or leave it. You bring antidotes, once upon a time news stories you read and AMA hypothesis. Hey why not ask Waldo Pee? I choose to leave it.

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I'm sorry....I missed where any of this is your personal experience....you know....the part where the doctor is looking at YOU and talking about YOUR death and not just some unknown anybody... ....could you please tell me again about YOUR personal experience with any of the things I've listed?

Clinical depression
Lung Cancer
Alcoholism

Otherwise...... simply noise........sorry to so rude about it (and I know I am) but I'm too short on time to waste it on those who haven't been there themselves.

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