Is it safe to mix them? It is not for myself nor is it for recreation. I have an uncle, who is taking codeine. He is taking it for bowel reasons, not for pain. He however has bad arthritis, and no medication seems to help him much. The other day (Thanks Giving(I live in Canada(our TG is at a different date than US))) I told him that a good Indica should keep him from noticing the pain(you still feel it, its just not painful) and suggested he try, he said fine and I said I'd get him some hashplant. That was totally irrelevant I didn't need to explain myself in such detail. Anyways, is it safe to mix them?

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He just started the codeine a few days ago.

cant he jsut not take em for a day n try out the cannabis n see how he feels?

wow i didnt know canada celebrated thanks giving

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Yes he could, but just to be sure. It he's my probably my favorite relative, and it would suck if he died(or any other misfortune came upon him). I don't believe in any afterlife so...

i cant see a problem with taking both as they are very differents chemicals with different functions

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Folks, steer clear of any discussions of lacing weed with other drugs, please. Just don't go there. If you see someone else go there, don't respond in turn with further discussion. Report the tread.

This thread is about the effects of two separate medicines, cannabis and codeine, and the potential outcome of the two taken separately but within reach of each other. It's not about lacing the two together to smoke them in combination. We don't advocate that. We don't want others advocating, recommending or discussing that, OK?

yes, it'll be fine... although he may not enjoy it.... after all, too much of anything can really suck, and codiene by it's self is pretty powerful, weed would only intensify it...

i'd reccomend him taking it one hit at a time and giving it time to kick in so he doesn't end up having a horrible experience with the two. but unless he has some real medical problems it doesn't pose a risk in and of it's self...

(this is of course assuming he really has been prescribed the medication and is taking it as the doctor told him to)

It is not very responsible of you to ask medical advice on a cannabis forum, especially for someone else most of the people on here are not doctors and have little or no knowledge enough to supply you with good advice (including me!)

I would rather talk to a doctor about health issues than a stoner.

I suggest people stop responding to this post offering advice on a subject which they themselves know nothing of.

Everybody will react differently to chemicals mixing within the body, some people will tell you it is okay to mix cocaine and alcohol, often people are not harmed by this, yet sometimes people are severely harmed through liver damage etc.

And you should not say to your uncle 'use cannabis for the pain' who are you to prescribe drugs to people?

I did not prescribe, I suggested he try and see. There is a HUGE difference.

Saying that only enforces my opinion of your lack of intelligence, your only to look up the meaning of the word prescribe in the dictionary, however I doubt you have one so ive done it for you:

Prescribe:

1) to impose rules or advice
GradeSaver: ClassicNote: The Cherry Orchard Study Guide - Terms

2) give as a direction to be followed
Dictionary of Same-Sounding Words: P, Part 2

3) order: issue commands or orders and suggestions
Etymologyonline

There are a multitude of drugs which are effective against pain, cannabis is ONE of them, may I suggest you keep your medical advice and opinions to yourself before you hurt someone.

Being a cannabis user requires a high level of responsibility, too often people lack this. This alone is one of the main reasons why we have such a backward, misleading view on drugs in our society (which we all know, is an ignorant perspective) yet this perspective will be continually passed down through generations into the future, for this cannabis smokers point the finger at the media, establishment, our social structures and work orientated lives yet these people who’s fingers protrude in such a way only give the media, establishment and forces of control the fuel they need to keep running the propaganda machine through their lack of responsibility. People simply do too much cannabis, people will put it as the figurehead activity of their lives, before even education and family. Is this responsible use?

Ive heard people on this site saying things like they take 20 - 30 hits per day, and they think its a good thing! Something to be proud of?

So, be responsible, dont take it as a lecture, I dont mean to damage your ego and hurl each other into a pointless debate resulting in bans and kicks, im sure your more mature than that, I certainly am. I hope you are.

I have to agree with Fallen here

I think its stupid asking for medical advice on a forum full of stoners lol

You should advise your uncle to talk to his doctor and not try and make yourself out to be one because you dont know what on earth your dealling with mate!

Dont mess about with mixed drugs ther a serious game!

Imagine yourself getting qualified as a proffesional doctor and then looking back at what you had to go through to make medical decisions and get them quals, there is a reason you have to go through that 10 year process of education!

You're right and wrong. First of all we have several members on here who have degrees in the health care field from counseling to pharmacy to nursing to respiratory therapy to medical degrees. 3 of the moderators have degrees in the health care field and we do a good job of eliminating posts that cross the line or are just flat out bad medical advice. For instance, we try to limit posts about diagnosing problems over the internet. On the other hand, there are many people who have been prescribed codeine and also use marijuana so if they accurately share their experiences with use of the two drugs, where is the harm? It would be naive to think that there has never been a pot smoker prescribed codeine and smoked while taking it. Now if someone goes beyond this and is giving more advice than sharing experiences, it will be removed. Actually, SlipKnotPsycho did give advice but it is really good and he does not have a degree in health care. Basically he said start low and go slow, which is a rule of thumb used a lot in pain management. It would be nice for the original poster to be able to talk to his doctor about pot and codeine but some doctors are less than receptive to talk of marijuana use. Part of this forum is out of necessity. In fact, Birdgirl is one of our moderators and a second year medical student as well as being married to a physician and Texas stud (who posts here too) and being a paramedic or EMT herself (sorry I can't remember which it is BG ). She found this website because she was looking for advice on marijuana use for her sister who had cancer. She has been a Godsend to this forum ever since (Dave's not half bad either!).

So it is up to people to ask reasonable questions and members to give reasonable answers. When that isn't happening, we do delete posts or threads. In fact, at this moment, 4 posts have been deleted from this thread. It would be more harm to suppress those who do have good information just because this is a forum. Consider this forum as one of several tools available to pot smokers to get good advice. In some cases it shouldn't be the only tool used.

Again, Slip really gave the guy's uncle good advice, for him just to take it easy and go slow to see how it affects him because it does affect others differently. He probably could have left out the "he'll be fine" part because it leaves no room for error but the main point is good advice. Like what others have said, the uncle needs to be aware of the sedation from both as well as how it affects his mental awareness.

In addition to those who do have degrees in the healthcare field, there are many members here who don't have degrees in the healthcare field but have done extensive research before posting here. Stormcrow and Beachguyinthongs have been using marijuana for medicinal purposes for many years (as well as many other members, those just come to mind at the moment) and can post many articles on its benefits.

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Get a home drug test if you want to know for sure if you can pass a drug test. Drinking lots of water for days and days before the test will not help you get clean quicker. All that water will not make your kidneys work better.

lol I dont know how the educational system in your country works but in Britain you need several more qualifications than a degree to give out medical advice.

A degree is one step up from an A level, and that is one step up from a GCSE which asks examination questions about what the red dot in a cell is called lol.

I personally am with Fallen on this, maturity would be the main reason and common sense another, only qualified doctors are at liberty to 'judge' patients and give medical advice about drugs.

Not students lmao

Students spend most of their time taking drugs, im one, and for the record I study economics yet even when I get my degree I wont be qualified to offer financial advice.

I may talk about finance down the local pub, like what FTP lists to invest in etc there is nothing wrong with that like you said, and I agree, but when it comes to discussing a family members health with regards to drugs and mixing drugs down the local pub, or on an online stoner forum thats irresponsible.

Fallen was right, its really not that simple, if medical students can offer advice then why are we queing for hospital beds and doctor appointments? Lets just ask the students at uni lol..

Students are not qualified, they are as qualified as me picking up one of their university module books and deciding this will be my new doctor lol.

My qualifications here are as a moderator. As a student, I don't give out any advice. FBR just used me as an example above to show that there were people here who were in the process of getting training, just as there are others like him and my husband, who've already completed their MD degrees. As he said above, we also have a number of other degreed nurses, pharmacists, and other medical professionals here.

DSX, you clearly don't know me or you'd already be very familiar with the fact that I don't give advice here other than "See your doctor." That's my standard advice on these boards. My current EMT-P (paramedic) certification qualifies me to respond to you if you have an illness or injury requiring emergency treatment. We don't have those types of situations on these boards. So my standard line here is always "Go see your own doctor." You can confirm that with a quick review of my post history. Others will attest to these facts.

One last note to whoever wrote this above. I'm not a stoner. You'll want to be very careful about using that term here because there are plenty of us who're cannabis advocates but not users.

Ok, you're splitting hairs on how I said there are several people here with degrees in the health care field. Here, let me be more specific. There are several licensed, practicing healthcare workers on this website from doctors to pharmacists to nurses to mental health counselors to respiratory therapists.

I guess you just glossed over the part about how Birdgirl is also an EMT-P. I never said her being a student meant that she was going to be able to perform surgery over the internet on someone. You're taking what I said completely out of context. Also, medical students do actually see patients and perform medical procedures. How else do you think they learn? I was simply trying to give an example of one of the healthcare providers on this site and since I know that I wasn't going to violate her privacy/security, I used her as one example.

You also glossed over the part about how we limit the scope of the posts that asks for medical advice. You are completely blowing this question out of proportion because some codeine cough syrup in the U.S. is available without a prescription if a pharmacist chooses to do so. If it doesn't need a doctor's authorization, then what does that tell you? It really is a basic question that deserves an answer. It's not like he was asking about his uncle's anti-psychotic meds and smoking pot. He just wanted to know if his uncle could smoke and take codeine.

No one is forcing you to post in this section DSX or read posts in this section so exercise your free will but you are now hijacking this thread.

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Get a home drug test if you want to know for sure if you can pass a drug test. Drinking lots of water for days and days before the test will not help you get clean quicker. All that water will not make your kidneys work better.

Medical advice is a serious game, one cannot offer medical advice over the internet no matter how qualified and trained one "CLAIMS" to be, one must view the patient, take into account the patients personal medical record and history, history of illnesses and prescribed medications etc, im not a medical genius but I sure know these things must be done professionally and the criteria I have just outlined is a common factor even in the worst public health service conditions.

Lets not escalate this argument, if you wish to obtain medical advice off students on forums or people who claim to know exactly how they can "fix" you then please dont let me stop you, I personally wouldn’t.

But the fact of the matter is, that it is irresponsible to seek medical advice for a family member whom has a past history of illness and health problems on a cannabis forum no matter whom ever you claim resides on these forums.

Call it being sensible, there is nothing more valuable and serious than health, and seriously it should be taken and every measure should be taken to ensure we are responsible and sensible enough to conduct the whole spectrum of medicine in a civilized manner.,

In other words, stay out of other patients business. Because its their health you are placing in your hands when you seek advice on their behalf of people that you yourself have never met, seen or introduced "YOUR" patient to, you may not see it as a big issue but I do.

I do not wish to place my health in the hands of a stranger on the internet and im sure others would share this feeling with me, this is not responsible and doing this on behalf of others whom you know are already ill, is irresponsibility defined perfectly.

This is all I am saying, and im sorry if you feel I am hijacking this thread (even though I have posted a mere 2 times in a civil sense) i dont know under what basis you draw this judgement or consclusion, for I have responded in no different a manner than you have.

If your child was sick, would you go to a cannabis forum to ask for advice? No - you do what any normal person would do, you see your local GP.

These students are also accompanied by professionals, did that thought ever occur to you?

Someone with a degree in medicine does not carry out medical proceedures on their own, a degree does not make you a doctor!

Lets not be stupid, its plain and obvious that Icarus was correct from the beginning, I dont understand what on earth you have contributed in terms of sense to this thread, but thanks for your time, I didnt learn anything.

If I wanted to apply for a loan or save some money is talk to MY PFA

If I wanted to find out the prices for shares of a company id talk to MY stock broker.

If I wanted a balance sheet and a PL account done id talk to my accountant.

If I had a health issue.

Id talk to MY doctor.

Nobody would raise an eyebrow if I came here and asked for financial advice, (as stupid and hilarious as that sounds) it would be my fault if I received the wrong advice, yet nobody would care because I was asking for it.

Health is a different issue, Fallen stated in his first post that it is irresponsible to ask on a cannabis forum for medical/drug mixing help for someone else. Your putting their health in your hands. Im sorry to say that there are people out there (like fallen) who will point out the lack of responsibility and utter stupidity of certain actions.

But nevertheless, do as you please, for it will be YOUR FAULT if something goes wrong.

So please carry on.

Dont listen to me, listen to "fake boobs rule".

Also, dont study in class, drop out and get a job at burger king being that you love stupid decisions so much.

WOW.....some people need to just chill. This is a forum isn't it?

It's not like hes asking whether he can take alcohal and vicodin (Which is very dangerous), cannabis + codeine dont have any negative interactions, coming from someone with chronic pain and goes through that "Lovely" feeling everyday However I've heard they the two do seem to intensify the other, because the receptors the drugs use are somewhat of the same. Just watch out for the Acetemophin(Sp), that will destroy your liver.

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Well said DSX

There really is nothing else to discuss here, there never was, medical advice is something which should be taken seriously. By your own local GP who knows you and who is educated profoundly in that profession. What if you were to actualy take advice off the internet off someone you didnt know, someone that didnt know anything about you and the advice was wrong, god forbid it resulted in a terrible reaction which caused much pain and grief (DONT ASSUME IT WONT HAPPEN THIS IS NOT PROFESSIONAL)...

[COLOR="Red"]Then you go to your doctor and say "but the lady on the internet said it was okay, she said she was a doctor".[/COLOR]

How stupid are you going to sound? People will laugh at you!

The idea that it is not irrisponsible is laughable!

ITS COMMON SENSE!

WOW a paramedic lol theres a bit of a difference between a GP and a paramedic.

But as DSX said, please, when your son falls ill dont take him to your local doctor, instead ask doctors on the internet they will know your son better and have his files and history in front of them lol.

Maybe its a cultural thing, in Britain we have our local doctors whom everybody knows and the doctor knows the patients very well, my doctor who I have known for over 15 years knows me in terms of health very well, he knows what I respond to well and what I dont, he knows what im allergic to, what chemicals will cause me to be drowsy, he knows how I work, my hours etc, he knows my blood type, my general health condition by looking at me (how does your internet doctor know if you are not lying on the floor half conscious? lmfao) im sure your internet figment doctor will be aware of all this aswel (lol), and im sure he will also email you a prescription of skunk 1# to solve that idiotic twitch of moronic comments you keep making.

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They may not for most people, but that is not the point of this debate, the point is responsibility, you cannot just run around telling people to mix these drugs and you will "be fine" that is not responsible neither is coming on a cannabis forum to seek medical advice for your ill uncle.

GO TO YOUR DOCTOR THATS WHY YOU HAVE ONE!

Thanks UTD Toker for addressing the 'possible risks' because as I have said, there ARE POSSIBLE RISKS, albeit every drug and medical discussion or venture must be taken with the most profound amount of caution ESPECIALLY concerning other people - because as DSX said, their health is in your hands, they effectively become YOUR patient!

SO BE RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!!

Really? Google medical forums and see how many online medical forums there are.

Well as far as the stupidity thing, speak for yourself. If you are talking to me about contributions, I did contribute to the OP's original question.

Other than that, all the other comments you made in your last two posts are nothing more than thinly veiled insults meant to incite some kind of inflammatory reaction which you aren't going to get. In fact, I really have to question if you understood anything I wrote because you keep talking about all this irresponsible medical advice that is plastered across this forum and Birdgirl and I just told you that's not the case. It is very limited in its scope and posts that are questionable are removed. You also missed my contribution to the OP's question. I have to also question if you understood what Birdgirl wrote because she wrote something so suttle that it looks like you missed it. What you are doing is also called trolling so let this be your warning. Another trolling post or off topic post in this thread and an infraction will be handed out.

BTW I don't have a degree in finance yet my Apple stock has doubled in less than a year and my Research in Motion stock has tripled too and I don't have a broker. Well, I do have a friend who is a stockbroker but I don't listen to anything he says.

Now DSX stop trolling or you will receive an infraction. If you still don't understand trolling there is a thread on it in the feedback section or you can use an internet search engine.

As for you Fallen Icarus, the question of whether codeine and marijuana can be used together is a question most EMT's are more than qualified to answer. You too Fallen Icarus are getting dangerously close to trolling too so the same warning goes to you too. You don't want to talk about medical issues with others on this forum, then that's great, no one is forcing you to.

Don't answer this question DSX and Fallen Icarus because this thread has been hijacked enough but do you two smoke pot because I feel like I am arguing with two government officials who are trying to demonize pot.

No one is trying to say that this section of the forum should replace an office visit with your doctor but to dismiss the information here as useless isn't an accurate representation of what this section has to offer.

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Get a home drug test if you want to know for sure if you can pass a drug test. Drinking lots of water for days and days before the test will not help you get clean quicker. All that water will not make your kidneys work better.

Sorry you had to put up with this, FBR. Those two were obviously quite clueless about the fact that we don't make diagnoses here and that our standard and consistent medical advice is, as always, "Go see your doctor." I guess we should have known something was up when Fallen Icarus seemed to draw the conclusion that someone had likened a GP to an EMT-P. He was the only person who'd drawn that conclusion, and he was trying hard to find something else to argue about. As an EMT-P, my qualification here is to do the same thing I'd do on duty in an ambulance: advise someone to seek professional medical attention at a doctor's office or emergency room.

I'm glad to see the end of this thread. Shall we shut it down so there's no more obnoxiousness?

but since cannabis is illegal and your uncle may not wish to discuss it with his doctor... and since this is a very simple matter, here are my two cents. codeine when used for bowel reasons, is usually (but not always) used in lower doses than when it is used for pain. In addition if he takes the medicine regularly he will have most likely built a tolerance to the respiratory effects and primary mind altering effects (the ones to be worried about) but not necessarily the constipating effect (the effect the drug is most likely being used for). Therefore combining cannabis with his normal routine should produce minimal interaction and would likely not be dangerous, in fact it wouldn't be dangerous with any dose of any opioid that the patient is well-adjusted too. stopping the codeine for a few days is not a good idea for several reasons. First, the bowel effect the codeine provides will stop suddenly (which could get messy, and you don't want your uncle to stain his pants!) secondly when the codeine is started again a drop in tolerance due to the time away from the drug could lead to more serious impairment than normal when smoked with marijuana or alone. just my opinion.. and for the best advice i guess you should see your doctor like all these people say... but its not like you asked if you should start giving your uncle chemo-therapy or if you should cut off his leg...

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WOW I haven't checked my email in a while LOL.

Your right about the definition of "prescribe" I was -ignorant- (not unintelligent if you want to get into the proper use of words). You are very right about people smoking too much, I smoke every three daysish (sometimes less). However that being said, It was difficult to not feel lectured by your condescending post (even though its an online forum, I couldn't help "feeling" the way you said it). I can't see any way how my "prescribing" marijuana could possibly continue the stereotypical view of "Potheads"(I sat for 10 minutes thinking about how to say that and it still doesn't sound like I wanted it to). Also I forgot to mention that I had suggested that he talk to his doctor about using marijuana and possibly getting a prescription, and that I would get him some to sample. I believe that covers the maturity issue. Well except for: "Also, don't study in class, drop out and get a job at burger king being that you love stupid decisions so much." sounds kind of immature (and hypocritical) to me. Maybe thats just me.

So anyways, the whole debate is asinine PERIOD. I simply asked if codeine and cannabis commonly have bad effects when mixed. Thank you growinforthefuture for realizing this. Thanks to fakeboobsrule, birdgirl73 and UTD Toker as well (and all that thank you crap).

I gotta say F**K. I was so annoyed that I got this feedback from a bunch of stoners. I agree with birdgirl73, disable this thread now that I've had my word (and shot at defense).

There is much more I could and would like to say about the feedback and it's sources, however it would probably end in me being banned.

Jesus, I'm surprised I didn't get a some sort of lawsuit notice in the mail due to all this offense I seemed to cause with a simple question.

Reverting back to minimalism and simplicity here:
I don't know anything about the side effects or chemical reactions that take place when Codeine is consumed, however, I do know that from my personal experiences, and from the basic observations made around me, that Marijuana doesn't appear to chaotically ruin chemical workings, and it doesn't appear to interfere with many of the intended effects that the person has wanted. If it were me, i'd do it, because it seems to be a low-risk situation.

Everything's a risk, and risks shouldn't stop you from doing anything, just make sure you're playing your cards right. And be careful.