Hey Guys!
I'm working at an LED company right now called Aeon Lighting and right now we are working on making the perfect LED grow light!

What do you guys think would make the perfect LED grow light? What do YOU want that current grow lights can't provide?

Thanks!
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low price would be a great thing to provide

what would be a reasonable price? we will do our best, but just as long as quality is priority

I wish you luck, I've been waiting for an effective LED grow light, for years ... I still have not seen ONE single photo, of an impressive plant grown solely under an LED lamp ... the technology just isn't 'here' yet, but I'll be waiting ...

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I'm not wanting to burst anyone's bubbles, but that technology already exists. I remember reading an article on it in a High Times Magazine a couple months back(Along with some sweet pics of crops). But I believe it would be impressive to work on a led light, in combination with a light that emits a lower violet-blue color(440nm to be exact) which no LED can do.
I have been interested in this topic for quite some time, I have more information on my blog: Smart-Hygro

Right now, we are working with high power LED and no, they are not cheap. its not so much the leds are expensive (which they are), but also we our heatsinks/drivers add the majority of the price. That's what we're working hard on reducing the price of .

Our company tends to provide few high power leds rather than many many low watt leds, because it improves stability.

Maybe this would be a better question: What's wrong with current led grow lights like procyon and lightblaze 400? do you guys tend to build your own or buy preassembled ones like these?

Thanks!

Basically you just need to make it cheaper, that's all. Last time I checked you can spend up to $2000 and that's just not viable for many people.

Also a lot of them are only good for one or maybe two plants as far as I've seen, maybe if possible make them able to light 5 or so?

I'd be happy to test it for ya when ya done!

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sorry, friend, but I can't consider 'High Time's as a legitimate source of much anything ... they're whores, that pimp whoever spends advertising money with them (their Cannabis Cups, are a prime example) ... I repeat, I have seen not ONE impressive plant grown SOLELY under L.E.D. sources ... when they do, I'll try to buy it ...

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This is not impressive? LED ONLY


http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...g-dsc00563.jpg

hey IR,

Here's about 50+ plants that are soon to be impressive.
That's 660watts of LED, lighting abt 4'x4'.

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I would love to see one

I think there has been ample evidence that led's will work. Just have to get the lumens up comparable and the price comparable to HPS. The systems I've seen are just too expensive to consider right now.
A system that would put out 100,000 lumens for about $400 would be a good price.

how about DIY kits that will keep the price down? at least as an option for the technically inclined?


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I agree all those pics need more time, and then you will see LED's are not up to par with a good HPS.

**Some one show pics of the final week so every one can see the problem.

I recommend just trying to mimmic a HPS in lumen output, then add some UVB to the mix as well. Unless the entire ceiling is covered in LEDs I dont see the LED happening to soon. Cost for high out put LED's is expensive then you need thousands of LED's for just one grow room. when faced with a 30 dollar a month light bill for a 1000W is far more less considering the amount you gain in harvest

I apologise; I am unable to find on your website any specifications for your emitters: voltage, current, wavelength, manufacturer, binning, etc.

I am also unable to find documentation of implementation of your products in horticultural applications. Specific information in that area is welcome.

How competitive with units of this type can you be?

Product Description
Output Power of lamp: 50 or 100W
Wide beam angle: 120
Rated Voltage range: 100-265V
LED bulb: 80 units 1.33W per unit
Light wavelength Blue: 450nm, red: 650nm (for growing only)
Ratio of Red and Blue light 8: 1 (we also could change the ratio according to your special requirements)
Dim R: 270mm, H: 80mm, Round style
AV. Life: 60000h
MOQ.: 10units
Master carton size 565*470*310=0.09stere
Retail packaging size 555*295*115=0.002stere
Warranty 1 year
N. W G. W 5.0KG/unit 5.5KG/unit
Sample prices of 50w FOB WUHAN: USD85.00
Prices (50-300units) of 50w FOB WUHAN: USD78.00
Prices (301-500units) of 50w FOB WUHAN: USD75.00

Sample prices of 100w FOB WUHAN: USD135.00
Prices (50-300units) of 100w FOB WUHAN: USD118.00
Prices (301-500units) of 100w FOB WUHAN: USD108.00

Thank you for your interest,

Dr. Herman

I suggest to be stubborn and not take the RQE curve for your spectrum.
That is only based on how leafs of just a few crops react and other effects were never taken into account.
Most things we have no idea about really and only one thing is absolutely sure: no light beats the sun so far!

You can take that spectrum to start with and run controlled experiments to see if any other configuration can beat that. These experiments are very important to get specific know how and market your product.
The more tests you run the more chance you get ahead of the competition.

You have to hand your sets to the very best and most respected growers.
They can give you the best input and are opinionleaders in the market. Meanwhile you have the results published in the magazines and forums and get a strong and trusted name. Very important after so many people got ripped of.

A good (water)cooling system would be very important.
Also you'd need a timer for the far reds and a little extra moonlight.

How much for a 200W light?

Not to be a dick, but there is a typo on your companies website. Homepage, pole, it says, "Would you switch to LED's if they were ony a little...."


Just thought I would let you know.

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someone post pics of plants at end of flowering not vegitative that does not mean shit to me ,ufo is pure junk a fire alarm with l.e.d. on it ,what about the procron or whatever its called that supposed to give 400

I have used Procyon 100s, and they work very well. Even I who have experimented with LEDs I was surprised how well they will bloom. But to think that thay are an "identical" exchange to a 400hps is just silly. I used two (2) to replace a 400watt MH in my mom room. But that alone was a 50% power savings. They will not veg a plant to 4+ ft, they lack penertration, but if you keep your mom's to a reasonable height they work fine.

BTW: I sold them as part of a aero/fog ponic grow tray set up. The Procyons will actually work from cutting to finished bud....and only raise the temperture of a 3'x3' tent enclosure abt 2-3 degrees over ambient.

In my experiments I have found that even a 600watt HPS is not adequate to cover a 4'x4' grow area effectively, it is no match to the 1000watt HPS. But in an interesting experiment I found 2- TI Pro-blooms at 330watts each will compete easily with a 1000watt HPS.
The 1kw HPS actually uses 1,150w w/ballast vs. 660w; that's 490watts savings and none of the heat provblems associated with HPS. Plus using grow trays designed for SOG style plants (138/4x4 tray) I can outproduce the 1kw HPS by a good margin.

Will you see a picture of a large 4' or more indoor plant grown indoor under LED? Probably not, it would take way too many LEDs, but why grow that big indoors? We just don't have a difference in light preference, we have a difference in grow philosiphy. I don't believe in growing large plants, with big fat stems, and lots of branches with all the associated leaf material indoors. Thats the stuff I'm going to throw away....I just want big fat buds! Small plants, many of them gives me the effeciency to use LEDs and that increases effeciency more.

what about weight thats what i am curious about how much could be produced from one led system on each plant so if you used one Procyon 100 on 2 plants or even one how much final weight ,by the time you add your nutes and electric and not even get an ounce its a waste of time and you are actually loseing money

Hearseking,

Hard for me to put a wgt to light per plant, like I've said before I do SOG style grow (single cola plants <16-18") in the aero/fog trays. But the 3'x3' trays I described above have 60 plant sites and averaged 6.5grams per plant, dried and manicured, first grow out. Took a little over 7weeks to go cutting to finish running WW (being attended to by noobs). Should go 7-8 grams with a little tunning. The potency is as good as HPS, and most folks think better.

I have been doing and still doing experiments with pure LED light, LED/T5 hybred lights, HPS light and I want to try HPS/LED but have not gotten to that yet. In a grow that I'm a partner in, we are growing in dirt (well Pro-Mix) and are experimenting with various lights vs. 1kw HPS, veg times vs plant size and dispproving to my partner some of the long held myths abt growing.

In an above post there is a picture of 2 TI Problooms, here's two pictures to show you where it is, side by side with HPS. See, I really am putting LEDs up against "the big boys".

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I wonder if a t5 setup would grow more weight than a led systemm by itsself,I had seen some thing in the h.t mag were the guy was using t 12s but plansts didnt get enough weight for it to be worth the trouble.Wish they would just make one that was of the highest quality and not keep doing one after another that says of this is 10 percent better than the last one but i guess thats how they make there money

right now, we're considering a 1 blue and 1 red high power LED in this type of housing. What do you guys think?

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Red and blue's nice...