DOH is not doing the job tasked to them.
DOH is not doing the job tasked to them.
Time to grow own
Time to grow your own!!!!!
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need more non-profits
CFO whats your take on how to solve the problem. You say there are med.s down south? Have you asked yourself why. I live in the Albuquerque area and the producers that are producing quantity med.s run out the day that they release it.I think it is sold out before it is even released.I myself do not have to purchase much but I do like to try new strains.I do not know solid numbers on who is producing but I think some of the producers out there are wasting there license. Will be interesting what happens at licensing time.What is it this time around 20 or 30 ?
I would say there is medicine in Las Cruces because the producer knows what they are doing combined with the fact that there is a smaller number of patients in Dona Ana County than the rest of the state. Since they cannot deliver North, East or West of Las Cruces (basically) their medicine is available to fewer patients so it lasts a little longer. I think too that patients that purchased Desert Creeper and were dissatisfied are missing out by not giving them another shot. Some strains have limited availability and have sold out quickly. Others have been popular and are repeated on a regular basis. I receive the newsletters from some of the other producers and know they run out on a regular basis so one has to act fast when meds are released. With most of the producers in the Santa Fe/Albuquerque area and most of the patients there too, those producers have got to produce as much as they possibly can. No holding back or keeping their plant numbers down. They have to produce at full capacity.
I agree, some of the producers are wasting their license. Heard there have been some crop failures at a few. Regardless....all but 4 of the producers will be paying the $20,000 license renewal fees. The other 4 will be paying $30,000. That is a lot of money.....especially with crop failures! Curious to see what DOH does with that money. Hopefully hire more people. $500,000 should hire more than 7 people! next year, if there are still only 23 producers, they will all be at $30,000 license renewal fees. That is $690,000!!! DOH needs to reduce those fees. That is money off the backs of us patients. If the producers didn't have to worry about those sky-high fees, they could probably lower the prices.
So--what I'm getting is that after I get approved--I might not be able to purchace??--is this true??---all of the producers run out??
I live in Otero county--what choices will I have?--have delivered?
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CFO" No holding back or keeping their plant numbers down." Easy to say but not too easy to risk All the hard work.The rules are there so they just have to be changed.I think I know of one producer that is willing to be put under fire to do what is right for the patients. But the best would be for DOH to manup and do what is right for the program.THAT IS THERE JOB.
Well since you went out of your way to quote and try to twist my words I will gladly oblige. Im going to take a wild guess and start with the assumption that you are a producer. That is where I get most of this kind of flack from on the different forums on the internet.
DrBreeze first off am not a producer but do have in site from a couple. My intension was not to twist your words but And I was not giving flack. I see you are not from these parts so the problem will not affect you but for the patients in N.M. it is a big problem.Growing medical grade is not an easy task. will finish response later.
Sorry if it seems a bit harsh, but I have seen this time and time again since this whole MM process started. Fear sells faster than anything else, it drives politics, and that includes Medical cannabis and it's patients.
Back to your response DrBreeze I don't want to scare anyone off.Growing there own med.s is the thing to do but what I am saying is that a lot of patients that try and grow there own will never get the hang of it. You want to make it sound so easy but in reality it is a lot of hard work and the costs are high. You want to question costs of the equipment so be it you can buy cheap stuff and for sure you are going to have problems sooner or later not that it won't happen with quality stuff but I just feel better knowing I got the best I can.You ask why the 20 amp circuit lamp inline fan. circulation fans and depending if you are doing hydro you would need even more power. Yea you can do it with a 15 amp circuit but I won't take the chance of a fire.now to elect. costs 30-40 a month. If that was it I would be real happy. Think more around 180.00 a month in winter months more like 240.00 in summer.Like I keep saying it is a job to keep plants at differant stages of growth. total watts in my system 2400 watts. But for the last 4 years have not had to buy a bud from anyone.That dose not mean that I have not tried from anyone just don't have to buy.Another thing about growing your own is the pride you can get from growing YOUR bud. 2 people can grow the same clone off a mother and come out with 2 differant looking plants. Yes the power should be with the people I don't have a problem with that. That is what I started this tread about That in this state the Department of Health was put in charge of running this program. It is failing to do what it was tasked to do> I see every day patients in the program not being able to get there medication. because there is not enough for all the patients in the program. THAT IS NMDOH's problem they have to make sure that there are enough med.s for all who need it.In a perfect world yes being able to grow your own would be the best.But there would still be those that for watever reason can't grow there own they need to be able to obtain there med.s in a safe manner and that is what the producers in N.M. do.
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GROW "OR" Get yourself and one trusted friend to take a little trip up to Garberville,CA. Make sure Your Transport vehicle is premium, with zero problems.
Bring 5 K! Go home with enough premium smoke to share with at least ten good friends!
Created On:22-Dec-2011 19:22:21 UTC
Registrant Name:William Ford
Registrant Organization:Black Sheep Productions
Registrant Street1:2730 San Diego SE
Registrant Postal Code:87106
After googling the public records for the domain, I can up with a tie to one of the producers on my parents list of producers. The owner of NMMCPA and RL Greenleaf are the same. I KNEW you were tied to a producer...if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a DUCK. I love when people put their own foot in their mouth. Your track record is based on an group of people that started a formal group 6 months ago, LMAO!
As far as the patients who NEED the medicine can "readily" find it .... I am a patient and until the program was legalized I did not partake in cannabis. I relied upon the narcotics prescribed by my physician. I didn't and still do not know any street dealers in NM. I had to rely on family in CA and CO to illegally bring me medicine. So, once again, your ASSUMTIONS and statements are incorrect. You make statements as fact, and then come back with comments regarding free speech and that your statements are just your opinion. You do not preface or word your statements as opinion, you word them as fact. Perhaps if you were to word your posts as such, people wouldn't be so put-out by your comments. Plus, if you didn't attack those that disagree with you the rest of us wouldn't feel a need to defend.
Your solution to the problem made me LMAO. You say the patients should "hire" qualified caregivers to help them with their personal grows. And just how much should these "caregivers" be compensated for their services? And where would this "flood" of caregivers come from? CA? CO? WA? You seem to think none of the producers in NM know what they are doing....bad assumption when you (your parents) have yet to purchase from ALL of the producers.
So sorry that you (or your parents) have had such poor luck with the northern producers. As their caregiver, my only assumption is that you are helping them grow so they don't have a need to purchase. Maybe I am incorrect. And, it appears your assumptions are based on your parents and/or TWO cancer patients. Wow, that's a lot of basis there!
Thank you CFO but some people"???" will never get it.